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1 alarmclock will be put up. :)

I think i'll also skip a night's drinking with my mates and go to bed early to catch some sleep BEFORE the game. :)
 

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Re: Friday

Originally posted by Taelyn
This Friday, please everyone try to be on time, or let us know here on the forums that you're planning to be late. This game is slowing to a crawl over the last few weeks. So far noone's said they'll be missing, that's a great sign.

On a related note, Lethke, maybe you should put an alarm clock next to the computer, just in case.

here's an idea - Let's make a hard/fast rule that each session will start promptly at 8:05 pm (gives leeway for differnt clocks :)), anyone not there at that time will be picked up 1 hour later at 9 pm (and let's try to stick to it)
 

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Maybe

The problem with that Hojo is that we usually only have about 5-6 people by 8:05. We could start with that few, but that means one hour of bizarre play with half the majors AI controlled. Last week that meant that the Ottomans gobbled up half of Venice and then there was a debate about whether to start with the old file, or the new one. Quite a mess.
 

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Re: Maybe

Originally posted by Taelyn
The problem with that Hojo is that we usually only have about 5-6 people by 8:05. We could start with that few, but that means one hour of bizarre play with half the majors AI controlled. Last week that meant that the Ottomans gobbled up half of Venice and then there was a debate about whether to start with the old file, or the new one. Quite a mess.

true - but look at it this way - throws a bit of the 'randomness of the political landscape' into the mix doesn't :)
 

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Though impoverished and technically backwards, the Ottoman Empire's foreign office can be reached by e-mail:

habs4chat@hotmail.com

8:05 CDT rules seems fair to me. This week I should be on time - already have reconfirmed car pool. If any staff has to leave early this week, I'll fire them :D and I'll still leave at 5pmPDT.


In character:

The Ottoman Empire will not accept the status quo alliance of Portugal, Spain, France, and England. We trust their majesty's governments will address this situation promptly and swiftly in order to avoid a diplomatic crisis.
 

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Re: Re: Maybe

Originally posted by WhiteHojo
true - but look at it this way - throws a bit of the 'randomness of the political landscape' into the mix doesn't :)

yep I can take some Spanish teritory when you not there!:D
 

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As I recall France was in great shape relative to when I received it, I had done major economic improvements (major trade investments, built both a refinery and a beautiful new shipyard) and maintained peace at a time where peace is a major priority for France. Allying with Portugal was of course merely a tactic to make it difficult for the Hapsburgs to surprise DOW me.
 

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very good. thx

did you set up some colonies or trading posts? I think I converted most of reformed provincess. did you had a chance to convert the rest?
 

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Elijah - thanks for the help last week - I hope you can pop in this friday if you have time in case we have someone who can't make it.

but next time France would like a bit more of a challenge so be sure and free all his possible vassals if you ever get the chance again :D
 

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Mods

The game was started as Peter's 1492 scenario, so those mods are in there. There are rules for behavior, listed in Hojo's first post in this thread. To sum it up though, behave reasonably and don't try world conquest.

We've allowed very limited editing in the past, Daedalus, our host has been responsible for that. We don't have a real policy for it, we've only used it to enforce an international treaty involving an AI nation.

I don't think we've modified anything else.

One question, you don't have a router do you? Some routers cause communications trouble in game. Panzeh had that problem (among others unfortunately). Look forward to seeing you in game.
 

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Excellent.
After reading around the first ten or so pages in the thread it looked as if my current set up is complete and so it seems it is.
As for a router no, I do not use one , on this computer.
Hopefully, there will be no surprises on my end.
Looking forward to the game as well!
 

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To the most honorable and wise Courts of Europe:
*in particular the austere and cold Philip II of Spain*

The Ottoman Empire has no territorial designs on the Kingdom of Morocco. We have no interest is offering the King of Morocco vasalage. However, Morocco and the Empire are VERY close friends and allies. Any intervention in Morocco would be considered an act of War against the Ottoman Empire.

The current Western Alliance is unacceptable to the Sultan. The alliance as it stands will cause a diplomatic crisis if not disbanded.
If the Sultan feels the courts of England, France, Spain, and Portugal are not acting in good faith, he shall direct me to form an "Eastern Alliance." The Sultan gives our office little time to wait for a disbanding of the unholy Western Alliance.

Regards,
Egon Grosse Offnung
Imperial Foreign Minister Ottoman Empire
 

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To the great Sultan of Ottoman Empire.

France is not planning to have a hostile relations with your nation or Morocco. We do not plan to expand in North Africa and we consider it your sphere of influence. As to the western alliance we can't specify when it will dissolve. Four powers that are in it have very different needs and plans, so we do not think it will last long, but France will not be pressured to levee the alliance. We definitely will defend our friends in purely defensive war. We hope to have very good relations with the Sultan.

King of France
 

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Originally posted by Habsburg
To the most honorable and wise Courts of Europe:
*in particular the austere and cold Philip II of Spain*

The Ottoman Empire has no territorial designs on the Kingdom of Morocco. We have no interest is offering the King of Morocco vasalage. However, Morocco and the Empire are VERY close friends and allies. Any intervention in Morocco would be considered an act of War against the Ottoman Empire.

The current Western Alliance is unacceptable to the Sultan. The alliance as it stands will cause a diplomatic crisis if not disbanded.
If the Sultan feels the courts of England, France, Spain, and Portugal are not acting in good faith, he shall direct me to form an "Eastern Alliance." The Sultan gives our office little time to wait for a disbanding of the unholy Western Alliance.

Regards,
Egon Grosse Offnung
Imperial Foreign Minister Ottoman Empire

To our most Esteemed Aquataince in The East,

We are gladdened to hear of your intentions on Morocco. This statement fills our nation with join for we now are comfortable that action won't be necessary by anyone to ensure the Moroccan's freedom from annexation.

We propose the following and if the Sultan is indeed a man of his words he should readily agree to it.

1) Morocco will remain sovereign and free from ANY outside interference or governorship.

2) No Major nation (OOC - ie, Human controlled) may vassalize or gain Military Access to the kingdom of Morocco - Both Spain & the OE will back this pledge with the use of force to relieve anyone of these capabilities should someone violate this part.

3) Neither Spain nor the OE shall be in a Military alliance w/Morocco - The temptation/threat to the other is too great for this to be allowed. Should either nation find itself in such a situation it will immediately rectify the situation.

4) Neither Spain nor any Vassal of Spain nor the OE nor any Vassal of the OE may take any land that is currently in the possession of Morocco as of the date of this Treaty nor may the said Vassals gain a Vassal Status over Morocco nor gain Military Access over Morocco.

5) Any violation of this Treaty by Spain or the OE will give the other a Cause Belli against the party that breaks it.

The King of Spain beleives this Treaty will force both Spain & the OE to put test to their words on the issue of Morocco.
We hope this Treaty will be signed & Ratified by the Sultan of the OE b/f our next diplomatic session (ooc - ie - before tonite's game :))

His Holiness,
The King of Spain

Post Script - Your concerns about the Alliance w/France is a hollow one for Spain will petition Portugal at once to remove the French from the Alliance at the 1st available opportunity
 

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Brandenburg agrees with this treaty and urges all parties to sign it in the interest of peace in Europe and Africa, and also to avoid any unnecessary bloodshed in this part of the world.

Also the elector applauds Spains decision in terminating the Western Alliance, and are glad that the interests of the whole community are taken into accounts in these situations.

Elector of Brandenburg
 

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To his most Royal Highness Philip II, King of Castilla, King of Aragon, and Emperor of the Germans.

It has been our pleasure to past treaties with the noble Tsar of the Russians. We have peacefully worked out a solution for our respective spheres of influence in the Black Sea and Caucusus regions.

His Majesty has offered a well thought and reasonable treaty regarding the Kingdom of Morocco. One addendum must be made:

6. The OE must have military access in order to establish "relations" with our West Africa brothers of the one true faith. a) with this agreement OE will NOT station any troops or navies in the Kingdom of Morocco - except any traders/explorers that wish to find our brothers. b) when OE sends a trader/explorer to Morocco we will notify the King of Spain.

Did not the good and wise King of Portugal not fund his explorations partly in search of your "brother" the Prester King John?

If this matter is be agreed upon I will sign said treaty for the Sultan and Caliph. We wait with baited breath for your prompt reply.

Sincerely,
Egon Grosse Offnung
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Originally posted by Habsburg
To his most Royal Highness Philip II, King of Castilla, King of Aragon, and Emperor of the Germans.

It has been our pleasure to past treaties with the noble Tsar of the Russians. We have peacefully worked out a solution for our respective spheres of influence in the Black Sea and Caucusus regions.

His Majesty has offered a well thought and reasonable treaty regarding the Kingdom of Morocco. One addendum must be made:

6. The OE must have military access in order to establish "relations" with our West Africa brothers of the one true faith. a) with this agreement OE will NOT station any troops or navies in the Kingdom of Morocco - except any traders/explorers that wish to find our brothers. b) when OE sends a trader/explorer to Morocco we will notify the King of Spain.

Did not the good and wise King of Portugal not fund his explorations partly in search of your "brother" the Prester King John?

If this matter is be agreed upon I will sign said treaty for the Sultan and Caliph. We wait with baited breath for your prompt reply.

Sincerely,
Egon Grosse Offnung
IFMOE

The King of Spain Sends his greetings,

We are pleased to see the logic and commno sense shine thru that has made the OE a formidable Kingdom to be sure.

We are pleased to see that you are willing to sign our treaty. However we must decline inclusion of the suggestion addition - Military Access must not be allowed for any nation - Morocco must be Sovereign.

So as my Abbots tell me in their venacular - that is a 'deal breaker'... we applaud your efforts to find your brothers however you, as you have known long b/f us Westerner, know that the world is Round and thus there are always 2 ways to get somewhere.

This Treaty is not about Spain or the OE - it is about Morocco - and we should not let our personal quests or want's be placed ahead of what is best for Morocco.

We ask again that you show your logic, intelligence and forethought that has made you legendary and sign the Treaty as is.

We thank you and await your response

The King of Spain
 
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It is our sad duty to inform the world community the Sultan and Caliph will not sign any treaty regarding our close friend and ally the Kingdom of Morocco.

We agreed to not station any troops or navies in the Kingdom.
We still maintain we will ensure an independent Kingdom of Morocco. We do not understand the position of the Spanish King and German Emperor.

Any act of aggression against Morocco will be an act of aggression
against the Ottoman Empire.

Our office in the Foreign Ministry is saddened that there will be no treaty. However the Ottomans have been less than aggressive in Europe (did we rape Austria when she had her Hungarian infheritance? etc etc etc.) We are certain other great Courts of Europe understand our peaceful intentions.

Sincerely,
Egon Grosse Offnung
IFMOE