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I can be online around 20:00 CET. So if you rehost around that time, I can play today as well. :)
 
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I can be online around 20:00 CET. So if you rehost around that time, I can play today as well. :)
There's a good chance that I'll rehost when Netherlands form. I'll send you a PM with my phone number, give me one ring and hang up. I'll know it's a signal from you that you're ready to join.
 

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I've called you now!

Hope you heard it...
 

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I am not going to say anything, there is no words to describe how fucked up my poor Poland is. But I changed my mind and I am going to play if this game will going on. Tonio don't want to peace me, but maybe after 2174, when UFOP will form, he will change his mind. In the meantime I am going to fight with rebels.


p.s. Should I change my nick to HAL THE GREAT LOSER ?
 
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well, i like Poland WE - http://www.europa2.ru/cgi-bin/leagu...ic&season=Valkyrie.net&lang=eng&yearsave=1576 - HAL can fight with rebels now only

guys, when Tsunami II was played, there were offending of Slavich that he kept too long war. You can see results of defensive tactic of England.. It is quite unfair to attack three or four on one, and i showed the benefit or low centralization and innovation. You attacked me when i didn`t have leaders for next 50 years, my shock is 2, while Poland has 3. OE sent a lot of money to Poland, but i used benefits of my domestic settings. I spent a lot of money before to make decent fortresses and that worked fine. Now when you are over, war with OE was next step with me to ruin their economic (while you wanted to ruin mine), but Gulliver dowed by himself... England in absolutely good position now..

So i can repeat what i`ve told before reviewing Tsunami II game - you can finish war by three ways:
1) offering other side good piece.. But that always depends on other player
2) do not make combats for 36 months (and no taken provinces)
3) make government failing for you or your enemy.

You wanted to gangbang me, well you got what you deserve.. Now i can play with my further target - OE :)

I can point you make two major mistakes (if we forget about Spain) - at first when you attacked me Poland had 13 land level against my 12.. HAL should increase his one to 14 and that would allow him to make great assaulting.. Otherwise, i did 14 land tech in 3-4 years, so there were pure cavalry wars.
Second mistake was mine - Venice took a lots from AI Spain and you could stabhit me on 3-4 provinces by alliance on alliance... That why Spain should immediatly goes WP :p

And i can repeat once more - if i wanted to win by war - i`d dow poland in 1440 having whole France to this time, but i played long term.. And when you wanted to make offensive war 3 vs 1, i was going not to make you pay for that :) You will just make new attempt some time later. I was able to kill three poland leaders with shock 5 (was very hard, specially last one, who killed my 70-80K). Guys, you chose your way by yourself - you choose target England instead of OE or each other... i was not going to crash anyone, but even in worst condition i gave you what you deserved by such ridicolous gangbanging.

I`m not against stopping the game if my enemies agrees that i completely win - my income is already a bit higher than OE, and their worst times are ahead. But if i remain, i won`t give up - i`ll ruin your countries like you want to ruin mine. Gul can`t do anything in France in same way like you all. Anyway thanks for the game, sometimes i had bad moments also - specially with Poland leaders :)

ciao
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Im leaving this game, not becuse of defeat. England is simply to strong. But it isnt for that reason either. It is for Slavich backstabbing, ruining the possibility to even have a chance to beat England. I saw now in stats how superior my army is to Slavichs Spain. Superior numbers and MUCH superior morale. Altough im not changing my mind, im not as brave as HAL the Ambassador:)D ). For your next game (if you are going to have one) may i propose using AoE(or maybe even PE:s 1520?).
Your two first games were...less of a success by my meens, but the third in everything always works out:) . Since you Tonio will probably say "Hey the ottomans are uber to" this is what i base my thought on your victory;

Why you will win:
- England got good leaders to come
- England got the possibility to create an colonial empire
- England got some -10 inflation events
- All of Englands provinces are valuable and rich=good tech progress
- England is latin tech group

Why OE will not win:
- OE:s good leader time is over
- OE do not have the same possibility to create an colonial empire
- OE will have many lousy events in 1600 and forward
- OE got a large empire, altough much of its lands are crap = slower tech progress
- OE is Orthodox tech group, which may become moslem in event

Congratulations Tonio for winning the game.
 

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my previous post was ended prescheduled, coz i pressed tab+enter instantly.. just a note i editted it to bigger one :)
 

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Hmmmm, just a quick note about Slavich backstabbing - you wanted he backstab me and you wanted Holland player, so it was fair for you if England would fights with 6 players alone, while current situation is just 2 countries (England + Spain) vs 4 countries (OE + Venice + Poland + Denmark) :) England and OE currently are near same, Spain is less rich than Venice.. but looks like 6 vs 1 would be fair, and 2 vs 4 is not a fair :)

like a old soviet funny tales (linked with USSR invasions to Chezh and Hungary after WWII):
"- what is friendly help ?
- when five ppl at dark night beats one person
- and what is aggression ?
- when one at shining day attacks five ppl
 

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Why not Friday?

Wasn't it Dane who asked free Friday? I doubt he will play this game anymore, so maybe we can "ressurect" friday session? How do you think Byng? You will just icq few people and there will be no problem.
 

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Punishment

Dear King of England - Tonio,

Many years ago some mad noble, called HAL, take control over our poor fatherland. He send our best leaders against You in hope he will ressurect some ancient country (I don't remember its name - Burgundy? France?). Of course it was only vision of sick man, but many brave Poles lost their lives trying to make it real.

Now Poland is falling apart, many provinces declared independet from our crown, polish army doesn't exist and we left without allies. That is why We are writing this letter to You Mighty King. You can demand what You want, but please sign peace with Us. Let's sit together in one table, drink a good vine and begin new, better future beetwen our nation.

We think We take enough punishment, please have mercy on our poor Poland.
For the memory of all leaders who died in this war, forgive Us and end it.

LEADER OF UNITED FEDERATION OF POLISH LANDS - PICKARD
 

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Hal, thanks :)

The only problem i see - i can`t let any country of your alliance leave the war and reduce WE - that is my main power after cavalry at french plains.. So i see this problem.
I`m worried by situation that OE took too much CoTs, and as you may understand everything is linked.. If i give you piece now and i will remain in war, 5 years later i can meet other 200K polish army with Stefan Batoriy with shock 6. That is how i see my problem.
 
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Re: Why not Friday?

Originally posted by HALNY (HAL)
Wasn't it Dane who asked free Friday? I doubt he will play this game anymore, so maybe we can "ressurect" friday session? How do you think Byng? You will just icq few people and there will be no problem.
No, it was Dane who wanted Wednesday off. Tonio and Gulliver want Friday off.
 
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Stefan Batory - The best friend of England

Tonio, if you think that in 5 years I will able to form 200k army, you must have something with head. Look at Poland! There are revolts everywhere! Even in Krakow!

If you want me to promise, that I will not dow you in next 10 years, I can do this. I can even agree for 20 years of absolute peace beetwen us.

Btw, Stefan Batory will probably die during some battle with rebels, so do not worry about him.
 

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So next seesion - monday.

OK Byng, I understand. See you on monday than.
 

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I AM NOT AMBASSADOR!

You can call me how you want Hmmm - filmamker, graphic, scenographer, designer, editor, director of photography, artist, mountanieer, noble, landowner, BUT I AM NOT AMBASSADOR! I HATE POLITICS AND I DON'T WANT TO BE ONE OF THEM!
 

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Re: I AM NOT AMBASSADOR!

Originally posted by HALNY (HAL)
You can call me how you want Hmmm - filmamker, graphic, scenographer, designer, editor, director of photography, artist, mountanieer, noble, landowner, BUT I AM NOT AMBASSADOR! I HATE POLITICS AND I DON'T WANT TO BE ONE OF THEM!

Chill HAL, you should take it as a good thing:D

Edit: Spelling
 

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Sorry folks, but I (probably) can't play tomorrow.
I'm going to the cinema (Matrix Revolutions ;) )