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Gulliver/casherings, there seems to be a problem with your ICQ. Hmmmm said he can't contact you either. I'll send you a PM via this forum.

G-Klav, I've also sent you a PM.

i have restarted trillian hope its better now
 

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Sorry I'm late...

My father booked a trip to London, and thus he occupied the computer, ah well...

I'll play tomorrow :)
 

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THE APOLOGIZE

I am very sorry, that I was angry on some people during last session. I shouldn't insult you. Please take my apologize.
 

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Apology accepted :)
 

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Iam out Iam not going to play this whole game whit max WE because some people think its soo nice :(.

I can lose and Ididnt complain that my goverment collapsed it was actually good thing as Byng used stabhitting I would have lost those provinses anyway so this way I got +3 stab. But its enought for me that everyone one at time dows me just to keep me max WE no thank I am not playing game like that.

Edit: I think I now can say that I made deal with Spain that would have made Portugal part of Spain so if people wondered why Spain didnt kill Portugal but as Slavic didnt play Spain there was no diploannexation of Portugal thought it would have come later.
 
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Originally posted by Rezag
Iam out Iam not going to play this whole game whit max WE because some people think its soo nice :(.

I can lose and Ididnt complain that my coverment collapsed it was actually good thing as Byng used stabhitting I would have lost those provinses anyway so this way I got +3 stab. But its enought for me that everyone one at time dows me just to keep me max WE no thank I am not playing game like that.

Sorry, I didn't wish to get you out of the game :(
 

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well, those 4 countries were harsh, they easily agreed to defend Incas interests
 

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Originally posted by Tonioz
well, those 4 countries were harsh, they easily agreed to defend Incas interests

Yes they were and I would like to point that Denmark made 4 times white peace with Portugal in session before this but thanks to going back in time they suddenly desided to prolong the war and later after Incas dow Portugal they started asking peace well I finally desided not to unload 1k troops to prolong that war but gave them white peace what a great work from them it realy must have been worth it.

Then there was no Spain player so I was without allies that could have helped me agains Venice that had sub what a coincidence as I helped Venice a lot in its first war with Spain that it decided to go gangbang Portugal but I could have taken all that it just was nail in the coffin when Persia dow Portugal right after Portugals goverment fall and Incas got allmoust everything back while both were completely unable attack eatch other and it was so plain that only pupose of this dow was to keep Portugals WE maxed so incas could get another war with max WE Portugal. As the WE got there in the first 50 year Portugal inca war where nobody believed that Portugal could even win incas after incas refused to accept loss of one colony what a mature playing.

I newer thought that people could be so bad losers and winners well at least I know it know :(.

You people should realise this is MP and making things to please only one player wont make fun or good game. Its strange that France was given second change but no way that Portugal could have been given time to get rid of WE even after grushing defeat.
 
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Originally posted by Rezag

Then there was no Spain player so I was without allies that could have helped me agains Venice that had sub what a coincidence as I helped Venice a lot in its first war with Spain that it decided to go gangbang Portugal.
Hmmmm requested a sub that was already known to him, and he let me know his need for a sub before Slavich did, so I gave priority to Hmmmm. I asked Hmmmm if Maciej would be an acceptable sub, and he said yes. If he had said no, I would have offered Spain to Maciej. I asked Hmmmm if Venice going to war against Portugal would be acceptable to him, and he said that the sub could make his own decision about attacking Portugal as long as he did not break his alliance with Ottomans, and I passed this information on to Maciej. I also spent about 10 minutes on ICQ trying to convince Riso to sub for either Spain or Venice before I knew that Maciej could sub, but Riso didn't want to sub.
Originally posted by Rezag

Its strange that France was given second change but no way that Portugal could have been given time to get rid of WE even after grushing defeat.
War exhaustion goes down even if you are at war if you don't build any troops and don't engage in combat, it just happens slower. You may have a second chance just like France after he first decided to drop out of the game, you're welcome to continue as Portugal in this game on Monday.
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Edit: I think I now can say that I made deal with Spain that would have made Portugal part of Spain so if people wondered why Spain didnt kill Portugal but as Slavic didnt play Spain there was no diploannexation of Portugal thought it would have come later.
I never thought anyone would deliberately allow himself to be diploannexed by a human. It's short-term play (or at least non-long term play) if you basically know that you will give up at some predetermined point in the future before the end of the game. Short-term play is something frowned upon in multiplayer games. I will prohibit allowing humans to allow themselves to deliberately be diploannexed in future games.
 

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To the end of live

We are learning to the end of our live Byng. As you see there will be a lot of things that you will change in future games :)
 

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Originally posted by Byng
I never thought anyone would deliberately allow himself to be diploannexed by a human. It's short-term play (or at least non-long term play) if you basically know that you will give up at some predetermined point in the future before the end of the game. Short-term play is something frowned upon in multiplayer games. I will prohibit allowing humans to allow themselves to deliberately be diploannexed in future games.

Short-term well it would have been in the end of 1600 century and the option I promised to do wouldnt have made Portugal actually part of Spain though he believed it would it was sertain option to be taken on event. But it realy made Spain very good ally to Portugal. I was very dissapointed when I wrote that so I didnt put all details of our deal there so I understand the wrong image you got there.

I would allso like to point that you yourself even used cheat on this game thought you were forced to admit it after testing that I told the truth and to go perious save. Realy what type of picture this gives everything is accepted as long as its not pure cheat or lets play fair game.
 
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Originally posted by Byng
War exhaustion goes down even if you are at war if you don't build any troops and don't engage in combat, it just happens slower. You may have a second chance just like France after he first decided to drop out of the game, you're welcome to continue as Portugal in this game on Monday.

No Iam not interested to play anymore in your games I have been cheated, forced to endure wars forever as losing one half colony was end of life and then accused playing badly as I promised Portugal to Spain in event to come in the end of 1600 thought it even woulndt have given Portugal to Spain to avoid being killed by it in game where it had been made clear that everything goes exept pure cheats.
 
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Fredde (Fredrik_SWE) is the new Spain. Even though Venice, Spain and Incas had previously made a 3-way non-aggresion pact, it was not a publicly stated one. I told Fredde he could do what he wanted. Unless an agreement is publicly stated in the game log, I don't think new players should be held to them, because an unscrupulous player might try to hold new players to imaginary "secret" agreements that never existed.
 
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Im going to quit this game due to my continuing connection problems. My ISP has told me that the problem will be fixed over this next week or so but im not holding my breath. If they dont sort it out then I will change provider cos im sick of paying for this crap. Sorry for the inconvenience guys.

Funny thing is that some games seem to work without any problems. An example of this was after i dropped out of an EU game i played C&C for 2 hours with no problems. Normaly this would lead me to believe that the problem was not ISP related but in this case it is.