admiral drake said:
youre coalition started with milan and germany after both of you lost a single war vs me
-leon was mainly out for gains
-sicly i dunno why he joined milan against me after me savng his ass vs milan earlyer either
-situation was simple , under pibe milan was threatening to become uber a he gathert huge aliance ect , germany-flandern made a deal
-pibe left jtu joined situation changed milan took different path so deal was off instead germany was then threatening to ake most of germany with alliance while milan was getting boxed in wich had to be stopped
-germany attacked i gained my 2coreprovs only even tho i reached german capitol (can't say my demands where alot)
-milan was just a target of opurtonity as he had my other core and baden ....
fighting bth milan and germany was meaned to keep wars over small areas of germany going between all 3factions tho i was wrong , milan -germany allys deviding most of germany for themself wich as originally suposed to be a area of conflict
you guys ganged me after taking 4provs from me directly and about another 6-8provs from ai compared to my former gains you shouldn't be talking nor complaining about my "agression"
coalition was born forcing me to ally schotland
drew made attempts to convince me to punish hypertechers obviously meaning schotland , tho i dowed leon unaware they made the coalition into a permanent unoficial alliance that was the last attempt in this game to fight a 1vs1 war ever , and where sicily was alowed to dow schotland with crt advantage for me it was considert a valid reason to call entire central europe to arms against me while the war was originally only over stuppid acces !
Ugh, revisionist history. Revisionist history without even a pretense towards spelling and grammar, too. Oh the humanity.
This is how I remember things, anyone who wishes to fact-check me is welcome.
Beginning from the second session, where I took over Milan after being unable to play in the first session due to repeated computer fuck ups and, in the meantime, having my nation of preference eaten up:
-Milan attacks Sicilly. Flandern enters the war on Sicily's side with a suprise attack. (Whether or not this had been worked out beforehand is unknown).
-Milan and Sicily reconcile due to Sicily's desire to have a land power to serve as a bulwark against Flanders, Milan joins the Leon/Sicily alliance.
-Milan attacks Austria, a Germany ally (vassal?) for cores, Germany opposes and Flandern joins the war against them. (Milan and Flandern had made a pact beforehand)
-Milan and Germany realize the error of their ways in allowing Flandern to grow in such a way, Germany becomes unofficially associated with the Milan/Sicily/Leon alliance.
-Germany/Milan/Sicily/Leon attack Flanders/Scotland (not sure if Scotland joined in mid-war or if they had already been allied, so Drake's claims to his alliance with Scotland being the result of him being gangbanged can neither be proven nor disproven). Germany and Milan take two cores a piece from Flanders proper. Leon takes cores from AI allies of Flanders.
-Sicily attacks Scotland and sacks Edinburgh. War ends in white peace.
-The disparity between Flandern and the rest of Western Europe in military capability becomes more pronounced as Flandern begins a military buildup. Meanwhile the Reformation hits and Milan is forced to convert to Protestantism and leave the Leon/Sicily alliance. Being that there are no other Protestant powers at the time, Milan is completely isolated and badly lagging in military capability. Leon/Sicily/Milan/Germany pledge support to eachother though they are unable to ally.
-Flanders attacks Leon. Milan and Germany, as well as Leon's official ally, Sicily, join the war against Flanders. Scotland, having predicted such a response (and warned Flanders thusly), wisely does not enter the war. War ends in WP after Drake leaves the game.
So yeah, here's what the two "gangbangs" you were on the recieving end of work out to:
1.) Righteous vindication for past Dutch transgressions resulting in only one province actually *taken*, and the rest *returned.* (Not counting AI losses.)
2.) A massive diplomatic blunder your own ally warned you against and wanted no part in.
Once again,
poor you.
As much of a bad economist and warrior I am, at least I'm not quite such a God-awful diplomat as Drake.