Wednesday Game - The Friendly Time Zone

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Aye, as I said already, OE has gotten a considerable boost by edits now, that will easily make up for some "badly" spent ducats. So enough with that.

 

[BurningEGO]

About Sid spending the OE's cash, well, until that time OE DIDN'T HAD ANY PERM, so I don't see what's the big deal about it, we found the NEW PERM AFTER Sid's spending spree.

Wait a second... So if Sid sent money to himself you couldnt care less? :wacko:

Well, if this is the case next time we need a ghost, i will bring up the ghost and send all the cash to my country - Poland.

About the Polish-Austrian alliance... Silly excuses. The new Perm player didnt really have much interest in an alliance as the previous had, and he only dowed you when they saw France+Denmark vs Poland.

And the threats to quit... I would like to know your opinion... Honestly i would. The last EGA already showed up how you use friends to gain the upper hand. Venice, in EGA was a friend/ally of france. When venice left, The_Genious (i still do not know if it was him or not) perms venice. From the night to the day he turns venice an enemy, when it had very good deals with france, and DOWS france with austria.

The same case aplies for this game. I have nothing against Jarski, but having Jarski put into the OE, a player that is very similar to Bob, and for being so Dows me just because he hates me, forgetting all the pacts the OE had with me like if they never existed.

I said, and will repeat - Russia-Austria and maybe Spain, i dunno, wanted to gang the OE. I refused to allow a gang, and i was the one ganged instead. Lost 15 provinces in the process. Now having Jarski perm the OE, forgetting that and the rest of the deals, just pisses me off at best.

Tell me, why would i loose 15 provinces in vain? You think i am some sadomasochist?

 

[Casluerj]

EGO I would appreciate if you stop accusing me to use friends on my advantage...

TG wasnt ever Venice in EGA IIRC. Also when the new player entered in Venice (cant remeber who was) what I did is called: Diplomacy. I tried to convince him that France was a bigger threat to Venice (and the unification of Italy) than Austria, since while France had italian lands I didnt. He agreed with that, and also since Fraese had also been the agressor (and agressors are always not well seen) he decided a new side.

These kind of things happen when I perm-player leaves and other joins in... You have to do all diplomacy again, since it is a total different mind with different opnion and expiriences... This happened even in this very game, twice with me: when Spain and Austria left.

About our new OE, I think that he is the new perm and he can do whatever he whishes, even if I still dont have a 100% idea of what he'll do.

EDIT: And I usually fight all my friends and it is very funny

EDIT2:

Wait a second... So if Sid sent money to himself you couldnt care less?

I think Alek refered to Sid's construction of forts and manus. And I kind of agree with him. OE didnt have any perm at that time, so Sid did what investiments he would if he was the OE player, i mean, build forts in minimal fort provinces in all borders and build some Weapons Manus instead of just wasting all those ghosted years...

 

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a player that is very similar to Bob

I wonder if thats a compliment or an insult...

The same case aplies for this game. I have nothing against Jarski, but having Jarski put into the OE, a player that is very similar to Bob, and for being so Dows me just because he hates me, forgetting all the pacts the OE had with me like if they never existed.

I said, and will repeat - Russia-Austria and maybe Spain, i dunno, wanted to gang the OE. I refused to allow a gang, and i was the one ganged instead. Lost 15 provinces in the process. Now having Jarski perm the OE, forgetting that and the rest of the deals, just pisses me off at best.

I havent dowed you yet Ego, and as i repeatedly said to you, and pretty much everyone who have asked me, Poland aint a target for Ottomans. If I were to just blindly dow Poland, i wouldnt have talked with you at all. And about the old deals and pacts with Poland, how can i forget something i have never even known? It was only recently when i finally managed to talk to you that the past has been becoming more clear to me.

Not that the happenings in past should influence me much, but i have based my future actions partly on them. Doesent take a genious to figure out from me breaking the nap with Russia that something is bound to happen between OE and Russia, if id have thrown the past to the bin and _really_ hate your guts, then Ottoman army would march to Polish territory after the 2 "grace" years have passed. Which it wont as long as im controlling things.

About our new OE, I think that he is the new perm and he can do whatever he whishes, even if I still dont have a 100% idea of what he'll do.

Most likely because even I dont know wtf ill do :rofl:

 

[BurningEGO]

I wonder if thats a compliment or an insult...

Neither a compliment nor an insult. I do not have anything against you, nor Bob, but having to be dowed due to hatred is already enough in one game (which is friday).

 

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I wonder if thats a compliment or an insult...

A compliment of course

 

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A compliment of course

So be it... :rofl:

And Ego, you will be so disappointed when i _dont_ dow you tomorrow.

 

[BurningEGO]

So be it... :rofl:

And Ego, you will be so disappointed when i _dont_ dow you tomorrow.

Well dow me or not, i will probably not be here the sessions afterwards... The only reason i am not leaving is because i still have many russians to kill. And maybe some Dannish too.

 

[BurningEGO]

Again, many MT calculations are wrong on the AAr thread, starting with the one Casluerj wrote. Lifford, if you are going to have someone edit the save, have someone to check if the info is correct or not please. French MP is currently bigger then 180 and Casluerj said it was only 175.

I am sure he is not the only one making mistakes regarding that...

 

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Again, many MT calculations are wrong on the AAr thread, starting with the one Casluerj wrote. Lifford, if you are going to have someone edit the save, have someone to check if the info is correct or not please. French MP is currently bigger then 180 and Casluerj said it was only 175.

I am sure he is not the only one making mistakes regarding that...

Hey BE. I'm glad you're going to stay and fight it out Just checked the French MP and it is 175. You might have a different save than the host?

 

[BurningEGO]

No lifford... To see total MP you must peace your enemies if you are at war. Occupied provinces do NOT give you MP, thus why you have to peace first.

And for the record, i am editing my AAr as the current one is kind of sucky.

 

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No lifford... To see total MP you must peace your enemies if you are at war. Occupied provinces do NOT give you MP, thus why you have to peace first.

And for the record, i am editing my AAr as the current one is kind of sucky.

... Thanks Ego. I didn't know that about the MP

... So when you're at war is the procedure to play until you can make peace then see what the MP is? If so then the French MP is 178. Is that how it goes or do you have to wait a few months after peace?

 

[Casluerj]

Well dow me or not, i will probably not be here the sessions afterwards... The only reason i am not leaving is because i still have many russians to kill. And maybe some Dannish too.

So you'll leave not in this session but the following? :wacko:

EDIT: And EGO is right.. French MP is 178 and not 175.. I forgot about that...

EDIT2: In the end my MT ended up being the same... 4,2

 

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Hola All!

Here are the Rewards and MT:

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Austria:

Ontime cookie: 0.5% deflation
AAR reward:
Leaders: 3 generals + 1 Admiral
Core Claimed:

MT calculation:

1 + 3.7/2 + (292*25) / (187*17) / 2
1 + 1.8 + 7300 / 3179 / 2
2.8 + 2.29 / 2
2.8 + 1.14

MT = 3.9
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Poland

Ontime cookie: 0.5% deflation
AAR reward: 0.5% deflation
Leaders: 2 generals + 1 conquistador + 1 admiral
Core Claimed: 686

MT calculation:

1 + 3.6/2 + (382*25) / (191*17) / 2
1 + 1.7 + 9550 / 3247 / 2
2.7 + 2.94 / 2
2.7 + 1.47
4.17
4.1
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Spain:

MT
2,25 + ((58x25) : (118x17)) = 2.6

On Time: -0,5% inflation
AAR prize: 400d
Generals: 3 Generals 1 Conquistador
Core: Siena
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Denmark:

On time: -0,5 Inflation
AAR: -0,5 Inflation
Generals: 2 Generals, 1 Admiral, 1 Conquistador
Core: PID 334

MT:
2,5
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England:

On time: -0.5 Inflation
AAR: -0.5 inflation
Generals: 2 Gen - 1 Adm - 1 Conquistador
Core: Ahmadnagar 1964

MT Calculation:

1 + (3.7/2)+ (74*25) / (53*17) /2
1 + 1.8 + (1850) / (901) / 2
2.8 + 1.02

MT = 3.8
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Russia:

1+2.05+(278.2*25)é(171*17)é2
3.05+(6955)é(2907)é2
3.05+2.4é2
3.05+1.2
4.1 *** fixed

4 Generals theyre names to come soon.
AAR to come soon
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France:

Ontime prize: -0.5% inflation
AAR prize: -0.5% inflation
CORE on: Guangzhou (1817)
4 Generals

MT Calc:

1+3,8/2 + 319*25 / 178*17 /2
2,9 + 7975 / 3026 /2
2,9 + 1,317
4,2
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Ottoman Empire:
AAR bonus: -3 bb
Leaders: 3 Generals, 1 Conquistador
Core: 1710

MT:

1 + (2.5/2) + (44*25) / (158*17) /2
1 + 1.2 + (1100) / (2686) / 2
2.2 + 0.2

So 2.5..
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Thanks guys for double checking and explaining the proper MT procedure!

 

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Caslurej will do the edits for us this time around (since he's online with me and volunteered )

Thanks!

OE Edits:

Georgia and Hungary to OE
Palestine to OE
Aden a Vassal
OE trade to 4
OE infrastructure half way to 5
+2 Centralization
+1 Offensive

Leader Generation is up!

 

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So you'll leave not in this session but the following? :wacko:

EDIT: And EGO is right.. French MP is 178 and not 175.. I forgot about that...

EDIT2: In the end my MT ended up being the same... 4,2

... he said probably so I'm assuming that he will have so much fun fighting this war this session that he'll be back. I'm a positive person!

 

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Hey Guys,

We need a sub for Austria tomorrow. Can you check your contacts and see if you can find one?

 

[Casluerj]

... he said probably so I'm assuming that he will have so much fun fighting this war this session that he'll be back. I'm a positive person!

Well, I dont think so, since he'll lose... and then he'll probably left... But I hope I am completely wrong... Really hope.

 

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Great News Guys! The Alliance is in luck!

Elijah is going to sub the Austrians tomorrow night!

 

[Casluerj]

Great News Guys! The Alliance is in luck!

Elijah is going to sub the Austrians tomorrow night!

Good and bad news ... Good that we got a sub... bad that we got an excellent player as sub

Lucky Skina...