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Does that mean I'm not allowed to recommend changes to the OOB/etc until that time? I understand budgetary concerns not being changed until a new one comes along, but general deployments/OOB/etc would be fun to tinker with right now (for instance, I just noticed our older carriers have about the same speed as our newer battleships, which means we could free up some of our faster CLs to run with our newer CVs, and have a battleship/old carrier task group that is well suited to supporting amphibious assaults)

That said, in tinkering with the save, I'm very sad that you cannot make fast battleships in this game. I was looking forward to stripping down the armor on a battleship to make it fast enough to run with a fleet carrier, but saddly it will never be so, as speed is only increased by engines, not decreased by armor and armaments.

TBH, if I'm not doing anything as secretary of Navy until '44, I'd rather be a temporary field commander.


I'm a little confused as to our previous naval strategy. Seems like we've been mixing battleships and carrier forces quite a bit. I always thought it was generally a better strategy to specialize (with the US I usually go for cruisers and carriers, relying on the mantra of anything that can catch me I can destroy and anything that cannot, is superfluous), to build up your practicals and get technology swiftly (and be able to quickly build new ships).

If I am going to take over the navy, I'll be honest, BB construction is going to take a major back seat to new CV production, backed up by cruisers. I don't recall what our tech is for BCs, but I doubt its very good at this point.

Saithis, if you're still poking around, why not drop dresdor a line and let him know about where you were heading?

The role of the service chiefs has been kind of amorphous in this AAR thus far; OOBs could technically be under your purview, as would force composition. You give the Theater Commanders the tools they need for whatever jobs we assign. I've responded to your PM as well, but I thought it would be best to make the roles clearer in-thread as well. PvtPrivate, remember, you're the boss of the Theater Commanders too, and have the ability to make changes to the OOB as you see fit, including shifting units to and from theaters. You're not obligated to, in either event, but you do have the option.
 

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DOPEA Compliance - Operation Catalyst

Operation Catalyst

Until this classification is altered by the President of the United States or the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the contents of this briefing are classified Top Secret. Under the Espionage Act of 1917, the transmission of this briefing in any format to unauthorized parties constitutes an act of treason, and will be prosecuted accordingly.

In order to remain in compliance with US Law, PACCOM is advancing detailed plans of Operation Catalyst before their enactment on Jul 1, 1943. We believe that this operation can be carried out with the resources at hand due to changes in the fighting condition of the Japanese after their extensive losses of land in the Occupied China region. Further evaluation of the field conditions will be carried out by Gen. Roy S. Geiger before such date. Briefing as follows.

Objective: With naval fighting at an increased tempo and U.S. fighting raised to a higher pitch, preparations must be made to take the offensive to the Japanese before fighting capacities are reduced even further. Seizing Japanese operational territory will be imperative to lessening the threat they pose on US / AUS shipping lines. In order to do so, cutting off access to Truk and Ponape and preventing the Japanese from having naval resources that could patrol or reach US territories will reduce the threat to our boys in blue and our families at home.

Operational resources:

CTF 'Providence' (in theatre)
CTF 'Yorktown' (in theatre)
CTF 'Lexington' (in theatre)
CTF 'Alexandria' (in theatre)
CTF 'Portsmouth' (in theatre)
1st Navy (in theatre)

SAG 'New York' (in theatre)
SAG 'Colorado' (in theatre)

SSQ 'Jackal' (in theatre)
SSQ ‘Raven’ (in theatre)
SSQ 'Hyena' (in theatre)

TRG 'Bulloch' (in theatre)

1st Coastal Squadron (in theatre)

USMC 1st Corps (in theatre)
US Fifth Army (in theatre)

Administrative Action 1: 1st Navy designated as such until Chief of Navy can issue fleet name.
Operational Action Contingent 1: All CTFs must be above 80% battle ready
Operational Action Contingent 2: TRG ‘Buffalo’ or ‘Bulloch’ must be available to transport USMC
Operational Action Contingent 3: All fleets with resources below 50% are to be removed from combat and stationed in Eniwetok or Ponape (when captured)

Operational Timeline:
Hour 0 – CTF ‘Alexandria’ merge with 10th Destroyer Fleet
Hour 0 – SAG ‘New York’ and CTF ‘Providence’ patrol Mortlock Pass (Aggressive stance)
Hour 0 – CTF ‘Alexandria’ patrol Ralik Plains – CAGs on air superiority, controlling airspace (Defensive stance)
Hour 0 – SAG ‘Colorado’ and CTF ‘Lexington’ patrol Southern Mariana Basin (Aggressive stance)
Hour 7 – TRG ‘Bulloch’ and CTF ‘Yorktown’ move to Eniwetok (Passive stance)
Hour 7 – 1st Navy move to Southern Ponape Approach (Defensive stance)
Hour 10 – 1st Coastal Squadron Air Superiority over S Mariana Basin, NW Ponape Approach, SE Mariana Basin , and Central Mariana Basin (Aggressive stance)
Hour 30 – USMC + 1-3 US Marines load into TRG ‘Bulloch’
Hour 30 – CTF ‘Portsmouth’ to Eniwetok – Resource to extract wounded fleets (Primarily SAG Colorado)
Hour 31 – TRG ‘Bulloch’ and CTF ‘Yorktown’ move to NE Ponape Approach (Passive stance)
Hour 50 – 1-3 US Marines assault Ponape / USMC lands when secured
Hour 70* – TRG ‘Bulloch’ and CTF ‘Yorktown’ move to Mili (Passive stance)
Hour 90 – 1st US Army loads into TRG ‘Bulloch’
Hour 90 – TRG ‘Bulloch’ and CTF ‘Yorktown’ move to Ponape (Passive stance)
Hour 130 – 1st US Army unloads at Ponape
Hour 131 – USMC + 1-3 US Marines load into TRG’Bulloch’
Hour 132 – TRG ‘Bulloch’ and CTF ‘Yorktown’ move to Minto Reef
Hour 135 – 1st Navy move to Minto Reef (Defensive stance)
Hour 150 – 1-3 US Marines assault Truk / USMC lands when secured
Hour 220 – CTF ‘Yorktown’ and TRG ‘Bulloch’ rebase to Truk
Hour 235 – CTF ‘Yorktown’ and TRG ‘Bulloch’ move to Ponape (Passive stance)
Hour 262 – 46th, 47th, 48th Divisions load into TRG ‘Bulloch’
Hour 320 – TRG ‘Bulloch’ unloads US Army
Hour 321 – TRG ‘Bulloch’ loads USMC + 1-3 US Marines
Hour 350 – TRG ‘Bulloch’ and CTF ‘Yorktown move to Satawan Pass (Defensive)
Hour 360 – 1st Navy moves to Satawan Pass (Defensive stance)
Hour 400* – 1-3 Marines assault Satawan / USMC lands when secured

Upon completion of Satawan assault, rebase as follows :
SAG ‘Colorado’ + CTF Lexington: Ponape
CTF ‘Alexandria’: Eniwetok
All other resources: Truk

Hour 500 – Operation Completed, all resources return to SOP.
 
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Oh, Tom handed you 2nd Corps too; I haven't had a chance to extract them from France. Let me know if you want to use them.
 

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There is a naval bomber group (our only ones) that should be coopted for this as well, i dont thinl they ate doing much good
 

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((I'd be interested in the secondary naval bomber squadron for sure. Can't have too many of them in the Pacific!))
 

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((I'd be interested in the secondary naval bomber squadron for sure. Can't have too many of them in the Pacific!))

I agree but we only have three and probably bad tech for it
 

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I'd like to fill the second space for Idaho:
I'm playing as David Worth Clark, a Democrat senator from Idaho, born April 2, 1902.

Welcome aboard!
 

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I agree but we only have three and probably bad tech for it

If you'd like to share your naval plans with Congress, by all means do so. As a reminder, unless a Congressman objects to the Pacific Plan, it will be approved via DOPE-A by Tuesday at 10 PM.

President Willkie

((Tom hasn't been on the forums in a few days; if I don't hear from him by Tuesday, and if we don't pick up a new theater commander, you have to deal with me winging it, and you probably don't want that. ;)))
 

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((Tom hasn't been on the forums in a few days; if I don't hear from him by Tuesday, and if we don't pick up a new theater commander, you have to deal with me winging it, and you probably don't want that. ;)))
((If we need a deputy, I'd volunteer. I love naval warfare (especially with the US):)))
 
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((If we need a deputy, I'd volunteer. I love naval warfare (especially with the US):)))

((If naval warfare's your game, you're apt to be disappointed -- you'll be Deputy Theater Commander for the Atlantic, not the Pacific. If you're still interested, say so. I'll expect you to start reviewing the save and come up with plans for the Atlantic for the next two months.))
 

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((If naval warfare's your game, you're apt to be disappointed -- you'll be Deputy Theater Commander for the Atlantic, not the Pacific. If you're still interested, say so. I'll expect you to start reviewing the save and come up with plans for the Atlantic for the next two months.))
((Sinking u-boats is fun also, so count me in.))
 

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((Sinking u-boats is fun also, so count me in.))

((So you're 100% clear -- you would be commanding land and air forces too, not strictly naval forces, and only in situations in which the primary commander is unavailable.))
 

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I agree but we only have three and probably bad tech for it

((Three is better than one, and that's all I have in the Pacific right now. Haven't seen too much resistance from CAGs to make it worth NOT using them...))
 

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Meh I'd say why not use the same IC for a TAC in Europe just in case things get nasty with the soviets

Does this mean you will transfer those bombers to PACCOM?
 

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Great work Novatheorem. I appreciate the effort behind putting together those orders.
 

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I approve Operation Catalyst. Godspeed/

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Operation Shuffle

Honorable members of Congress,

For those of you who do not know me, I am William Franklin Knox. I’ve been appointed as the Secretary of the Navy, by President Wilkie. Former Secretary Standley has been recalled for other duties that can better use his particular skills. I’ve asked you here to this briefing to bring you up to date on our Naval forces, and put forth a plan for their future actions. I’m required to inform you that, until this classification is altered by the President of the United States or the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the contents of this briefing are classified Top Secret. Under the Espionage Act of 1917, the transmission of this briefing in any format to unauthorized parties constitutes an act of treason, and will be prosecuted accordingly.

The Navy of the United States of America currently consists of (in decreasing order of advancement):
1 SH Battleship (Montana Class)
13 Battleships (2 Iowa, 2 Colorado, 8 New York, and 1 Arkansas class)
13 Heavy Cruisers (6 New Orleans, and 7 Kent class)
11 Fleet Carriers (6 Midway, 2 yorktown, and 3 Lexington class)
1 Escort Carrier (Saipan Class class)
20 Light Cruisers (11 Worcester, 2 Brooklyn, and 7 Leander class)
35 Destroyers (18 Somers, 3 Faragut, and 14 Clemson class)
33 Transport Flotillas
13 Submarines (2 Barracuda , and 11 R-boat class)

We are constructing 3 transports, 4 Battleships (Battleship IV “South Dakota” class), 4 Fleet Carriers (midway class), and 3 submarines (Perch Class).

The War in Europe is winding down. Soon our armies will be in Berlin, and as more of the European coastline falls under Allied boots, the need for the guns of the United States Navy in Europe are needed less. Because of this fact, over the next few months, units should be cycled from the Atlantic to the Pacific theater of operations. It is on the bows of ships that our military power will be projected against the Empire of Japan. It is true that brave marines won the beaches in Europe, but it was the landing craft, battleships and carriers that ensured those victories. I have yet to meet a marine who was not thankful for the heavy guns providing shore bombardment from the decks of our battleships.

The Empire of Japan is a naval powerhouse. They are dangerous even after the losses they have suffered at the hands of the Chinese. This is not the coastal waters of Europe, where the British fleets have hemmed in Germany since the beginning of the war. This will be a battle over the vast Pacific, where Japanese carrier aircraft could strike from beyond the horizon at a moment’s notice. To prosecute this war we will need more ships, more planes, and more marines. It is of vital import that we remember that while Germany will soon be licked, the war is only half done.

Operation Shuffle

I have come before you today to present an endeavor known as Operation Shuffle. The Operation consists of four major parts:

1. The reduction of the number of ships of the United States Navy that are active in the European Theater of Operations.

2. The reorganization of all Task Groups of the United States Navy in both the European Theater of Operation and the Pacific Theater of Operation, as well as reassigning of commanders of the same, to prepare for the increased activity in the Pacific Theater of Operation.

3. The increase in the number of ships and Task Groups of the United States Navy that are active in the Pacific Theater of Operations.

4. The initiation of maneuvers to determine the size, location, and composition of the Navy of the Empire of Japan, and if opportune, meet it in decisive, favorable battle.

Operation Shuffle will take place over several months, and is largely dependent upon how swiftly land forces capture Axis-held ports in Europe. The Empire of Japan is known to have been pursuing naval technology and to have been building impressive vessels in violation of the Washington Naval Accord prior to the beginning of the war. What they have managed to build since then is unknown. Because of these facts, the newest vessels will take priority for reassignment, with older vessels being utilized for the European Theater of Operations.

The Immediate use of Operation Shuffle will be to reassign the following task groups to PACCOM for the purposes of assisting in Operation Catalyst, as well as future operations in the area.
SAG ‘Oklahoma”
SAG ‘Montana’

Additionally, the following Submarine (SS) groups will be assigned to patrolling the East Norwegian Sea and the English Channel to decimate enemy shipping and provide intelligence for any potential German Naval Sorties.
SSQ ’Coyote’
SSQ ‘Raccoon’

After the conclusion of Operation Catalyst, Operation Shuffle will begin the systematic restructuring of the United States Navy to provide the most effective fighting force to counter the Navy of Empire of Japan.


Respected members of Congress, I thank you for your time today to present this plan. I hope it meets with your approval.
-Admiral William Franklin Knox
Chief of Staff, United States Navy