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Tom, I took your earlier message to say that you would rather be Atlantic Theater Commander than Chief of the Army -- am I correct?

Yeah, that's correct; I'd like to switch positions and give someone else a chance to run the show. That, and this gives me a chance to actually play D-Day in HoI3, which will be a welcome challenge. :)
 

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Fellow,Senators.

I took a trip to Poland these few days and lived the tension in there.I say that not just a war,A GRAND WAR will start very soon

On the bills.

1.Aye on Gear for war.As I said WAR is coming so we MUST be prepared.
2.I request if possible to be responsible of the Atlantic NORTH Army.It sounds weird that I didn't pick a theater but it looks that there is competition on those so why not be an army leader?Also the direction which the Army will go(e.x this Army will attack east Canada) will be decided by the theater commander but the directions of the Corps and Divisions(e.x this Corps will attack Ottawa and that Corps will attack Montreal) will be decided by me.If this is not allowed let me canditate to be Commander of the Atlantic Theater.

Senator,John Sarigis (I-SC)

((Good thing I just got the FTM expansion to play the saves,yay!))
 

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Aye for Gearing up for war. I suggest we pursue overtones of embargo against Germany as soon as possible.

Signed,
Mary Philipps (D-CA)
 

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Yeah, that's correct; I'd like to switch positions and give someone else a chance to run the show. That, and this gives me a chance to actually play D-Day in HoI3, which will be a welcome challenge. :)

Great.

(( I do have hoi 3 and Semper-Fi, but your right for the savegames i'd need FtM, i forgot, so nevermind ))

That's fine :)

Fellow,Senators.

I took a trip to Poland these few days and lived the tension in there.I say that not just a war,A GRAND WAR will start very soon

On the bills.

1.Aye on Gear for war.As I said WAR is coming so we MUST be prepared.
2.I request if possible to be responsible of the Atlantic NORTH Army.It sounds weird that I didn't pick a theater but it looks that there is competition on those so why not be an army leader?Also the direction which the Army will go(e.x this Army will attack east Canada) will be decided by the theater commander but the directions of the Corps and Divisions(e.x this Corps will attack Ottawa and that Corps will attack Montreal) will be decided by me.If this is not allowed let me canditate to be Commander of the Atlantic Theater.

Senator,John Sarigis (I-SC)

((Good thing I just got the FTM expansion to play the saves,yay!))

I currently don't have plans to break things farther down than theaters; perhaps if things get really complicated later? I will, of course, put you down as a potential Atlantic Theater Commander.

Aye for Gearing up for war. I suggest we pursue overtones of embargo against Germany as soon as possible.

Signed,
Mary Philipps (D-CA)

Thank you for your vote!

Polls:

Gearing for War

Aye: 9
Nay: 0

Secretary Newman

Aye: 4
Nay: 0

Here are the candidates for the positions as of now:

Chief of the Army

Chimina

Atlantic Theater Commander

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Pacific Theater Commander

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tyriet, if you do want to be a theater commander, I have no problems with you not having FTM (although you should buy it anyway, it's awesome :)). I'll make sure that we have plenty of maps when the war gets started, and that's all you'd really need to order forces to take objectives, etc.

Anybody else, if you own at least HOI3 (the expansions would be better, obviously), you can sign up to be considered as a candidate for any of the above positions.

EDIT: Please don't vote on the above candidates yet; I want to give people some extra time to decide if they want to throw in or not. I'm going to extend this deadline to Monday at 10 PM CST (-6 GMT).
 

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tyriet, if you do want to be a theater commander, I have no problems with you not having FTM (although you should buy it anyway, it's awesome :)). I'll make sure that we have plenty of maps when the war gets started, and that's all you'd really need to order forces to take objectives, etc.
Honestly, I found FTM disappointing. They removed the reduce neutrality mission, and reduced resource values.
 

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Honestly, I found FTM disappointing. They removed the reduce neutrality mission, and reduced resource values.

To me FTM added good things but also badly removed some things.It is good they added the wargoal system and a nice resistance system but they removed the decrease neutrality mission which for me was a bad decision because I got the game for sandbox but they removed it too:mad:
 

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I will also support the appointment of a new Secretary of War, by voting Aye to the proposal!

- Senator Charles Beckendorf, D-MA
 

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Is there still a chance of joining in on this? If so I will

Name: Senator Peter Dawson from Maryland
Born: 1898 (age 41)
Party: Silver Legion of America (Silver Shirts)

Policy ideas:
-- Foreign policy plans: Non-Intervention.

-- Budgets for IC: Expand the United States of America's industrial base and start training a new airforce.

-- Budgets for Leadership: Leadership should go to expanding a large spy network in the UK, France, Italy, Japan, Germany and the Soviet Union.

-- Declaring war/signing peace treaties: Only at the express consent of the US Congress and peace should only be made when in the interests of the United States.

-- Which faction we align ourselves to, if any: With the enemy of our enemy in event of attack

-- If one of the Big Four needs to be fired/replaced: With a capable man or women.

-- Input on our general deployments overseas: Maintain our forces overseas as long as necessary

-- All decisions and law changes: Institute high education, Consumer Goods should be in focus as long as we aren't at war.

-- Nukes!: Yes, but only used as a last resort.
 
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((nah its ok the commanders are fine with me,i dont have to take a spot, i guess ill just grab a minor theater later maybe. Despite i can stay independent from the army politically then))
 

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Honestly, I found FTM disappointing. They removed the reduce neutrality mission, and reduced resource values.

To me FTM added good things but also badly removed some things.It is good they added the wargoal system and a nice resistance system but they removed the decrease neutrality mission which for me was a bad decision because I got the game for sandbox but they removed it too:mad:

I've actually quite enjoyed it. I think they're still working on rebalancing threat and neutrality for future patches, but there's always cheating if you want to go full sandbox :) Still, probably best to keep general conversations on the merits of FTM outside of the thread.

I will also support the appointment of a new Secretary of War, by voting Aye to the proposal!

- Senator Charles Beckendorf, D-MA

Is there still a chance of joining in on this? If so I will

Name: Senator Peter Dawson from Maryland
Born: 1898 (age 41)
Party: Silver Legion of America (Silver Shirts)

Policy ideas:
-- Foreign policy plans: Intervention, foster close relations with Germany and Italy to combat the growing Bolshevik menace.

-- Budgets for IC: Expand the United States of America's industrial base and start training a new airforce.

-- Budgets for Leadership: Leadership should go to expanding a large spy network in the UK, France, Italy, Japan, Germany and the Soviet Union.

-- Declaring war/signing peace treaties: Only at the express consent of the US Congress and peace should only be made when in the interests of the United States.

-- Which faction we align ourselves to, if any: Axis

-- If one of the Big Four needs to be fired/replaced: With a capable non-Bolshevik.

-- Input on our general deployments overseas: Maintain or forces overseas as long as necessary

-- All decisions and law changes: Institute high education, Consumer Goods should be in focus as long as we aren't at war.

-- Nukes!: Yes, but only used as a last resort.

Welcome! I'll add you to the roll.

((nah its ok the commanders are fine with me,i dont have to take a spot, i guess ill just grab a minor theater later maybe. Despite i can stay independent from the army politically then))

Fair enough.

Gearing for War

Aye 9
Nay 0

Secretary Newman

Aye 5
Nay 0

Edit: Republicans only: Senator Newman volunteered himself as party leader quite some time ago; does anybody intend on opposing him? Democrats, do you wish to choose a new party leader?
 

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I vote Aye on Gearing for War

- Senator Peter Dawson, MD
 
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I vote Aye on Gearing for War

- Senator Peter Dawson, MD

That gives us

Gearing for War

Aye 10
Nay 0

Secretary Newman

Aye 5
Nay 0

I think, to better match the US political system, we will change confirmations. Instead of having everybody vote, we'll have "hearings" where the candidate will discuss his policy and any Senator can ask questions. Unless somebody blocks the nomination, we'll let it sail through. Any objections to this? I think it will give people more practical input while simultaneously speeding things up.

We have a majority voting for Gearing for War (by Tom's quorum), so I sign it into law (at the appropriate time). I will also consider Senator Newman's appointment confirmed. All we need now is to see if anybody else wants to throw their hat in the ring for the other open positions (Pacific Theater Commander, Atlantic Theater Commander, Chief of the Army). If they don't, we'll hold the hearings and go from there.
 

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Fellow Senators,

The last years we have seen the rise of fascism and national-socialism depriving men and women from their basic human rights. Now is the time to take action and let the world know that the U.S.A. is a global political player that will not let the Nazis take whatever they want whenever they want it. This Bill are actually two bills combined. I am seeking the sponsorship from another senator to co-sponsor this bill. This bill may be subject to changes.


First section

All parties or political figures who have any political connection to the Nazi regime in Germany or the Fascist regime in Italy will be banned.

((this bill will be more detailed when I have worked this out with a cosponsor, I'm saying in a more simplified manner what I think should be in the bill))


Second section

In an attempt to further intimidate Nazi-Germany from making any hostile moves, we may intervene when the Germans attack Poland. I'm not saying automatic war, but this will bring diplomatic pressure. This will be in the form of a declaration of independence for the Polish people.

((*))

With regards,

Senator Gordon Sinclair D-IL
 

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The outlawing of the Fascist party and guaranteeing Poland's independence Bill

Fellow Senators,

The last years we have seen the rise of fascism and national-socialism depriving men and women from their basic human rights. Now is the time to take action and let the world know that the U.S.A. is a global political player that will not let the Nazis take whatever they want whenever they want it. This Bill are actually two bills combined. I am seeking the sponsorship from another senator to co-sponsor this bill. This bill may be subject to changes.


First section

All parties or political figures who have any political connection to the Nazi regime in Germany or the Fascist regime in Italy will be banned.

((this bill will be more detailed when I have worked this out with a cosponsor, I'm saying in a more simplified manner what I think should be in the bill))


Second section

In an attempt to further intimidate Nazi-Germany from making any hostile moves, we may intervene when the Germans attack Poland. I'm not saying automatic war, but this will bring diplomatic pressure. This will be in the form of a declaration of independence for the Polish people.

((*))

With regards,

Senator Gordon Sinclair D-IL

Senator Sinclair,do you think that it is right to exit our isolationist stance that early?I'd like to say that America has just started preparing for war.I know you said not direct war but the Germans may respond to diplomatic pressure by WAR.I visited Hitler once in Germany and he was a bit raged about the other nations that had German cores AND the nations protecting them(GB and France).Also let's say that we go to War,how can we transfer our troops from one side of the Atlantic to the other when we don't have enough transports?

Senator,John Sarigis(I Leader-SC)

((In game,If you presure the Germans with Embargoes and establish good relations with targets of Germany,you will either join the allies and that means war with the Reich or they could DOW you))
 

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The outlawing of the Fascist party and guaranteeing Poland's independence Bill

Fellow Senators,

The last years we have seen the rise of fascism and national-socialism depriving men and women from their basic human rights. Now is the time to take action and let the world know that the U.S.A. is a global political player that will not let the Nazis take whatever they want whenever they want it. This Bill are actually two bills combined. I am seeking the sponsorship from another senator to co-sponsor this bill. This bill may be subject to changes.


First section

All parties or political figures who have any political connection to the Nazi regime in Germany or the Fascist regime in Italy will be banned.

((this bill will be more detailed when I have worked this out with a cosponsor, I'm saying in a more simplified manner what I think should be in the bill))


Second section

In an attempt to further intimidate Nazi-Germany from making any hostile moves, we may intervene when the Germans attack Poland. I'm not saying automatic war, but this will bring diplomatic pressure. This will be in the form of a declaration of independence for the Polish people.

((*))

With regards,

Senator Gordon Sinclair D-IL

This is simply outrageous, do the actions of Fascist and National Socialist Parties overseas reflect the intentions of our own home-grown American fascism? As a member of the Silver Legion of America this bill would make my own party illegal, do I not have the basic human right to express my political beliefs? I cannot believe that any true American would seek to restrict the rights of certain segments of it citizens because of their personal distaste for the European regimes of Germany and Italy.

To address the second part of this bill "guaranteeing Poland's Independence", rather than guaranteeing Poland's Independence we should be assisting in the peaceful transfer of territories which traditionally belong to Germany, for proper compensation of course, all in order to limit the chances of another war. If at all possible we should be helping Germany and Poland to unite together to form a bastion against the darkness of the Bolshevik Hordes sitting at Poland's borders, let us not forget the attempted invasion by the Bolsheviks against the brave nation of Poland in the early 1920's.

With Regards
Senator Peter Dawson, Silver Legion of America, MD
 
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Senator Sinclair,

Are you proposing that, should your bill pass, we actively guarantee the independence of Poland? If you are, Senator Sarigis' concerns may be very well founded.

Secretary of State Cordell Hull

((Partly trying to get a clarification here -- I'm not at all saying that we can't or won't do this, if the votes say we must -- but it would probably disrupt a lot of plans. I will never discourage alt-history stuff, however, unless it's patently impossible because of game mechanics. You will need a co-sponsor, of course.))

EDIT: The first part of your bill is unconstitutional; you can't banish Senators en masse, even for treason. You'd have to impeach each one, individually, first. Banning parties is more of a gray area -- technically, even in this timeline, there's just the two parties and some independents. Even McCarthy never outright banned the Communist Party during the '50s. Please re-write the bill in an appropriate way; for now, you can leave the stuff about banning the party, but not expelling all "political figures."
 
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Senator Sinclair,

Are you proposing that, should your bill pass, we actively guarantee the independence of Poland? If you are, Senator Sarigis' concerns may be very well founded.

Secretary of State Cordell Hull

((Partly trying to get a clarification here -- I'm not at all saying that we can't or won't do this, if the votes say we must -- but it would probably disrupt a lot of plans. I will never discourage alt-history stuff, however, unless it's patently impossible because of game mechanics. You will need a co-sponsor, of course.))

EDIT: The first part of your bill is unconstitutional; you can't banish Senators en masse, even for treason. You'd have to impeach each one, individually, first. Banning parties is more of a gray area -- technically, even in this timeline, there's just the two parties and some independents. Even McCarthy never outright banned the Communist Party during the '50s. Please re-write the bill in an appropriate way; for now, you can leave the stuff about banning the party, but not expelling all "political figures."

((I'd like to say that not only it is unconstitutional but it is also some kind of ban to some senators in this interactive AAR from being senators!That is a bit dictarational.))
 

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((I'd like to say that not only it is unconstitutional but it is also some kind of ban to some senators in this interactive AAR from being senators!That is a bit dictarational.))

((I agree, but at the same time, just to be clear, I would never allow any legislation in the AAR that would exclude somebody from being a Senator. Ever.))