We need to bring back expansions... INSTANTLY

[GoguRomania]

) This is actually hilarious!

 

[Soranya]

If only the DLCs worked fine on day 1 or at least week 1. Every new DLC is worse than the previous. This was the last time I buy a DLC on release day, although it was kind of mandatory due to the pay-wall anyway.

I can not remember any serious issues i had with week 1 dlcs since Conquest of Paradise. Day 1 i remember a few, one or two, thats true though.

 

[TacticalRetreat]

Europa Universalis IV. A game about stealing as much land as possible, setting up a colonial empire, murdering natives to make your colonies 'safe' or alternatively forcefully converting your conquered peoples to your own religion and culture, pillaging their lands, and of course sending all of your stolen money and goods back home through trade routes.

Obviously you've found the perfect audience for your ridiculous anti-capitalist rant about 'greed'.

 

[TacticalRetreat]

LOL.
If you take a look at The Sims from EA and Hearthstone from Blizzard, you will realize how generous Paradox is.
Especially Hearthstone. Almost zero development cost, yet absurdly high income earned.

Hearthstone has a fine system in place and it's not pay2win either. You either pay with money or time. How is that not generous?

 

[Soranya]

Afaik you can not get the "best" cards (or all cards for that matter) by just spending more time playing.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

As someone who has worked at paradox for a long time I feel its time someone stepped up and told the dark sad truth.

Yes, its true. back in 2007 before the release of EU3, we spend the last couple of month chopping off all of the expansions. The art programmer complained a bit when we downgraded the map as part of cutting out Divine Wind and some are still not sure if that was a good call, but of course how else would we have been able to squeeze every last dollar out of our customers??

In fact, one of the reasons it took so long to get going on EU4 is that we had to wait for Johan to crash all of the paradox sports cars before we could be allowed to get off the couch and work again. Dont worry though we spent over a year cutting out DLC from EU4 before release so I'm pretty sure we can just lazy around for another couple of years now!

You can't fool me with that sandbagging. PI is planning the next horde/Mesoamerica/Russia/BYZ nerf right now, going down their list. The Buddhism nerf caught many off guard, perhaps a buff to Reformed and Shia next?

 

[Grallak]

I don't mind. Considering what I pay for games for less worth in comparison to time I play it still adds up, besides paradox makes fun games, so why the hate?

 

[Promanco]

As someone who has worked at paradox for a long time I feel its time someone stepped up and told the dark sad truth.

Yes, its true. back in 2007 before the release of EU3, we spend the last couple of month chopping off all of the expansions. The art programmer complained a bit when we downgraded the map as part of cutting out Divine Wind and some are still not sure if that was a good call, but of course how else would we have been able to squeeze every last dollar out of our customers??

In fact, one of the reasons it took so long to get going on EU4 is that we had to wait for Johan to crash all of the paradox sports cars before we could be allowed to get off the couch and work again. Dont worry though we spent over a year cutting out DLC from EU4 before release so I'm pretty sure we can just lazy around for another couple of years now!

I'm afraid that A LOT of people is going to take you seriously and quote this for years to come

 

[mdw1985]

Pdx is a business company and not a hobby, which is pursued by some guys ober 30. The grand strategy games, that pdx sell are feeding a niche and can be called undisputed in their subject. Let's see what else there is:

The supreme commander series (omg what a crap)

Making history (poor graphics)

WitE (no politics, trade, laws, etc etc, but awsome in combat)

WitP (very very good, but needs to be teached at unuversity)

Pdx has become my favourite game company for one reason: you can see the live and passion they have for their games in every bit of the games you buy. And they always try to display all aspects in an era like politics, war, diplomacy, trade, culture and so on. Do i think, they cut out things from their games? I did, but not anymore. Do i think the dlcs are expensive? Yes i do, because sometimes there is not that much content, which would be worth the price. Do i have to buy them? No! I can buy this dlc or that dlc or none. And i hope that pdx will release good dlcs after HOI4 is released hopefully bugfree. And i'll wait for the summer sale on steam if they are too expensive. And since pdx is leading in grand strategy games, they can dictate the prices if they wiuld want. But the basic editions of the games have always been affordable!!! I hope they lower the prices for dlcs a bit though.

Cheers

 

[Soranya]

Whats WitE and WitP ?

 

[Jeremiah Beansprout]

Whats WitE and WitP ?

I believe he was referencing War in the East and War in the Pacific.

 

[Soranya]

Never heard of them But i guess theyre not worth beeing looked up either - sooo - thy for the info

 

[Knut Skallagrim]

Hearthstone has a fine system in place and it's not pay2win either. You either pay with money or time. How is that not generous?

Heartstone is totally p2w. And this is the undeniable truth else people would not spend their time on that thing to have a chance to get a legendary or that other op card, but play it casually and only when they feel to, with a well thought but completely common deck. Don't put ability behind a jungle of paywalled cards that you only have if you're a beta player and lost the subsequent years of your life or a money waster, both roles being bad. A lot of my friends are wasting real money to catch up on the game, i played against them and lost ofc (heartstone = face hunter with naxxramas expansion, 22,50 euros with mastercard and you can win the game), but i'm so happy to not have invested a cent on that game because it's an experimental mouse cage imo. The only ones i'm envying are Blizzard because they created a system in which for an entry on their online database you've to pay real life money. They basically made their own bank

 

[mdw1985]

Never heard of them But i guess theyre not worth beeing looked up either - sooo - thy for the info

Oh trust me...they are worth looking! you can get war in the east for 10 bucks at amazon...war in the pacific costs weigh more and is a masterpiece...i got both games and can recommend them if you got some timento learn them!

 

[Castellon]

I wrote my own "Final count down" mod for one of the older iterations of WitP.
USS Nimitz vs the whole Japanese navy, it was pretty awesome.

 

[Phibs]

Glad this thread is still open, so that I may taunt it a second time.

edit: current count 358, that's gotta be a record

 

[Pigeoncount]

.................... (Shakes heads)

This was not me! It seems someone jumped on the joke I presented.

 

[crimson2404]

Extra content is marketed mainly to those who have the game whereas the game itself is marked to a huge audience and thus their is less demand for dlc and price will be higher. Furthermore paradox don't care about your complaint, you should be lucky they at least give a lot of content away for free unlike the majority of game developers.

 

[Cryoshakespeare]

This thread is priceless c':

I like how Paradox kept it, clever, and funny

 

[Kapitalisti]

I wrote my own "Final count down" mod for one of the older iterations of WitP.
USS Nimitz vs the whole Japanese navy, it was pretty awesome.

Who won?