While OP is very obviously trolling (seriously, if your gonna troll at least put some effort in), I have to congratulate him on getting over 200 disagree's in one post.
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We need to bring back expansions... INSTANTLY
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Yeah... that must be the silent majority... don´t believe I´ve ever seen a post get that much disagree, and in that short amount of time :´-D doesn´t seem like he has posted anything since here...
even though i dislike the current state of eu4, op's language is horrible.
high prices. paywall dlc's (there's always one very crucial feature). dlc's shouldn't have impact on gameplay.
high prices. paywall dlc's (there's always one very crucial feature). dlc's shouldn't have impact on gameplay.
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I personally do have an issue with the model, because the end result is a complex game that is also changing all the time, so it seems you're constantly trying to catch up with the rules.
I ran into EU3 after years of playing MMOs, and I remember a moment after several weeks of not playing where I realized with extreme relief that I could leave the game and it would be how I left it when I came back. This is no longer true. If you're not someone who finishes games quickly, you're likely to have major rule changes happen midgame, and depending on your goals the next free patch is liable to essentially end your game.
At least, I've had ironman games that I've been unwilling to continue on a new version (due to significant changes in the free patch) and unable to continue on the previous one (because the only way to de-ironman I'd found through searching involved loading and saving the game, which would push the save to the next version).
In the end, I've found that between waiting out sets of rules if I'm not sure I'll like them, and being unwilling to start games when it's been a while since the last patch, the time windows where I feel comfortable starting a new EU4 game are somewhat scarce.
This all causes me to play the game in short bursts, and leave it untouched most of the time, which in turn causes me not to buy DLC on release but rather at good discount.
Now, that's just a personal preference, and I realize it wouldn't apply if I didn't prefer ironman mode. And none of this has anything to do with concepts of greed or cutting features out of the base game, of course.
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I believe you can finish ironman games on an older version, go into steam and opt for the version before the patch
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DLC's are effective expansions though, since they expand on the main game.
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STOP CUTTING FEATURES FROM THE MAIN GAME AND RESELL IT AS DLC!!!!!!!!!
Soon when you load the game it will just say: " BUY DLC YOU MONEYBAG " and no, no gameplay. To get it you need spend 1000000000000000000000000000000000000$$$$$$$
Oh... you don't have enough money? Well @#$% you we don't need you :/
We need money to develop games!
Yeah? BULLCrap!!!
You sold 1000000 copies of CK2... MILLION. Each cost 40€......... YOU HAVE AT LEAST 40000000 € to support like what? 5 devs? and that's not enough?????????
At least in CK2 they didn't cut as much features.
BUT IN EU4 THIS DAMN DJOHAN FOUND NEW COSY WAY OF MAKING MONEY!!! HOORAY!!!!
What do we do? Simple! Develop a good game, sell it, THEN BUTCHER IT and sell it piece by piece AGAIN. No effort required.
Examples? EASY:
You was able to build y'know... some peace time activity y'know... building up y'know....... NOPE !!! TOO MUCH fun for "non-paying" users. Wanna build again? Well... 15€ YOU SACK OF Crap!!!
You was able to have vassals and personal unions... still wanna have them? 15€...
Same goes for colonies... 15€...
Oh yeah, if you need to actually get anything from them... another 15€!!!
Interesting trend the community points out every patch: ROTW is being nerfed every time! Looks like next DLC is called "Non-europe is actually fun now buy buy bUY!!!" Fascinating conspiracy... but it's true
Also how about PAY 2 WIN???? AKA "Art of War" their is no way people without this dlc can compete against people that do own it. I am not even going to mention anything more about it. You already know that singleplayer is being ignored. Exploiting multiplayer is more profitable... i guess...
Now about expansions yes you won't be getting new features, BUT game stays consistent, content won't suddenly disappear over night and get replaced by TERRIBLE BUGS CONSTANT CRASHES SHIT PERFORMANCE GOD DAMN.
If only i could go back to older versions but of course not they won't allow it, not in their interest.(EDIT: no longer relevant)
How the @#$% you expect me to support this company??? Huh? I dunno...
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I only agree that the DLC model fails hard, but makes insane profit for PI. Since everybody is buying low content DLC for far too much money they won't change their DLC politics because one forumite yelled for it (in a very very childish way).
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Oh, this takes me back to the University Campus, where lonely guys would distribute hand-typed leaflets (yeah, one was an old guy with a typewriter, it actually happened three years back). These leaflets would usually be full of badly spelled propaganda in the same sense as the OP, sadly fighting reality and their own emotional problems more than any cause.
Thank you Paradox, for allowing me to relive those memories like few other forums would. I wish the OP a speedy recovery from whatever troubles him, except the game, hands off of reality!
Thank you Paradox, for allowing me to relive those memories like few other forums would. I wish the OP a speedy recovery from whatever troubles him, except the game, hands off of reality!
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This is quite entertaining! My gratitude to all who participated in the thread. lol.
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What I actually dislike most about this post and the OP, is the fact that he created the profile just for this post it seems. So either he have another account and doesn't want to come out in the open with his opinion, which is a little disturbing since OP then knew how many would disagree.
Or he only created the profile, having no before for the single purpose of ranting about this... hmm
Or he only created the profile, having no before for the single purpose of ranting about this... hmm
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Silent majority lawl. If ever there was a good use of the ratings system, this is it 
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So what you want is to be able to play ironman without frequent patches, but that wasn't possible in EU3 either since there was no ironman.
Hmm. If I look at the steam betas, the earliest ones have a (no ironman) note. I think the games I lost were from back then, so it seems like they've changed this somewhere along the way.
Thanks for your reply, this is potentially a game changer for me.
Maybe PDS can offer the OP a job to help count that money for free and see how he/she likes it.
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I believe there is a version that you cannot revert back to sooner than that, believe it's about 1.10 or 1.09. PDX had a reason for that. But as someone else mentioned here, remember to disable DLC too. Haven't done it myself, but you could give it a try. Know some other has been finishing their games on previous versions and PDX regularly states at patch that people can keep their saves to finish them
I perfectly understand the necessity of making money. I am okay with putting development behind the paywall, just not with how broken development is. But many ppl on this forum are somehow a group of fans of the devs. There are more people in the steam review session where there are more supporters of you.
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