We Must Feed Our Sea

[Ranger900]

SAGA OF THE SAARS: Old Man Spites the Clouds/God
Alternative Title: Saarland replicates the Pacific Theater.

So I had a small brain fart this last session and forgot to take screens for the first few years of the session. General summary is things went well for the first few years. Dutchess Salme continued to work her way up the Hermetic society while also doing a pretty solid job of improving Saarland. This list of achievements includes, getting the Saarish income up and above 10 ducats a month (something that I was having trouble breaching for a while.) Getting the manpower reserves up to being about even with some of the neighbouring kingdoms, and getting prosperity up throughout the land.

Also I managed to capture Gotland off Austergautland/Oland (I believe the same guys that killed 2 of KoM's kings in a day.)

I also am not quite sure, but I think Finland might have one of the highest tech levels in the world at the moment.

I gave Gotland to my younger sister and brother's eldest son. I didn't quite like the man, and well, Gotland isn't going to be productive for a bit. The Measles hit the region hard.

I got to Adept, but unfortunately this was as far as Salme managed to get before she croaked. Guess that's the downside of Seniority, but honestly, the succession type is good enough that I don't care that much.

Interestingly enough, the Scandinavian region has become one of the more generally rich areas in the world. Most likely because Norway's the only germanic state so nobody can raid it.

Except Sweden, because Sweden's been burned to the ground so much.

Unfortunately then I caught a flu and died. Given Salme was frail since birth and had a bad tendency to not sleep while working on her mysteries, I'm honestly surprised she made it into her 50s.

Unlike the Norwegian kings apparently, Salme was a good person and went off to heaven instead of burning in sin. Meanwhile Erkki round III gets his shot. Don't ask what happened to Erkki II.

Oddly enough, despite all those red numbers beside the pretenders. Every single one of my vassals, including the pretenders, loved Erkki. Might help that he's married to the strongest Count (a.k.a, his Sister)

Unfortunately he's really bungled that relationship since, at least with his wife. Stupid sexy cousins and women with the quick trait.

I also finally got my first Retinue. The Saarish Guard will defend the realm against all invaders! (Well not really, there's only 300 of them right now)

Jarl Erkki III decided to return to the Saar form, and instead of focusing on learning like Salme and Crazy Into, he returned to focusing on Business.

This has paid off quite handsomely.

Unfortunately though, despite the windfall that might lead you to believe. I promptly...invested...the money. We'll get to that in a bit. First though, this guy inherited Gotland and set up a plot to kill me.

The one advantage with inbreeding and keeping all titles within your own family, it helps keep the potential murderers incompetent.

As for where that money went. Well, despite being a generally normal person, Erkki III had a bad tendency to fill his spare time sitting on the roof of the keep shaking his fist at the sky. Cursing the clouds and asking why god cursed Saarland to be such a hive for adventurers when they tried to be free. One day he was working on some of his architectural designs and decided he'd do what the people of Shinar couldn't.

The Heavens are within our reach.

It will just take some money to get there.

Alot of money

The quarry was built though, and the tower designed. Thanks to a bit of panhandling and a lucky break from a special tithe from my steward, I managed to scrape together enough cash to get out of crippling debt without begging it off my vassals. Unfortunately, I now have a banditry problem in Saarland.

Finally though, it was done.

The tower stands proud over Saarland, and people say its even visible from Gotland, the plains of Rus and the mountains of Norway.

One day, Errki III traveled up the tower for his weekly session of shouting toward the heavens and at the clouds now passing around his tower. While up there though he began to feel light headed and before him God presented Himself, telling Erkki of the future and that he must continue Dutchess Salme's former warplans if he wished to see the Saars last till time immortal. On that day Errki returned to ground level a zealot, knowing that God was there and was guiding the Saars, and he'd venture up the tower to commune with the lord every few days. (So says my explanation for how Errki went from Cynical to Zealous in a single day (literally got both events the same day))

Following God's commands, Errki launched a war against Denmark for Bornholme.

Denmark was going through tough times at this point, and KoM grabbed some territory off them too.

Following that Errki has started trying to claim on Isle Caste out in the middle of the North Sea. He wanted to grab Fyn but he's saving that for later given the treaty Saarland has with Denmark for a few years.

Shortly after that the Session ended, though with KoM's conquests into Sweden he ended up tipping over the Realm Size Limit, which means that once again.

Saarland is free. Glory to Saarland, hopefully this time it will be permanent.​

 

[dragoon9105]

No mention of my generous Bailout money to the Messalians I see.

 

[Ranger900]

No mention of my generous Bailout money to the Messalians I see.

I mentioned you in the Panhandling You and Golle helped bail me out.

 

[King of Men]

• Eclipse of the Old Gods: In spite of massive raiding against the target kingdoms, I failed to make my vassals' invasions of Denmark and England succeed; as for the invasion of Dragoon's vast Ukraine-Poland blob, forget it. Consequently the moral authority of Norse paganism was precisely zero for most of the session. These are dark times for the faith of fighting men.
• Island Fortress: No, not Britain, nor England. For the second time, the Orkneys have held off a county conquest; and although they were nominally fighting one of my vassals, which might have been a fair match, I joined the war (since I had an army raised and nothing better to do with it), so the single-province Orkneys were facing the full might of Norway. It turns out that it's really difficult to shift a Holy Order defending a hilly island. In truth the AI also had some difficulty; early in the war I managed to land in the Orkneys while the Holy Order was off besieging Caithness. That was before I knew what I faced; thinking I was fighting only the Orkneys, I just put a stack of 2000 men in, enough to siege the island down, and went off to look at what my raids in Sweden were doing. The next thing I know, I have a popup saying that my 2000 men just held off 5000. Unfortunately they took such damage in doing so that when the HO had recovered they managed to kick me off; and from then on I couldn't win a single battle. (No doubt due to that zero moral authority - clearly, Odin was off in a sulk.) From here on, whenever I have occasion to refer to the Orkneys, it will be as "the Island Fortress of the Orkneys".
• Am I My Sweet Brother's Keeper?: Sweden, under the rule of the Traitor-Kings, is succumbing to the internal rot that will eventually make all Christian kingdoms fail; the process is particularly fast here in the north, where the people have no painfully-acquired immunity to the worst excesses of the religion of slaves. No less than six of my vassals (not counting human-played Finland) declared war for various counties, and they all won, too - possibly with some involvement from the King's armies, it's true. There is not much left of Sweden, now.
• Triple Telemark: Of the six vassals who declared war on Sweden, three did so for the single county of Telemark. It follows that two of their wars ended inconclusively. Fortunately this does not count as a failure for purposes of moral authority.
• The Friend Zone: One of the more pernicious effects of the religion of slaves is that it forbids concubines. This makes it very difficult to get a proper Yngling breeding program going; I've been forced to select concubines more because they were available than because they had attractive traits. On the plus side, this does mean that my armies are full of horny teenagers taking out their frustrations on the rest of the world.
• Sisu Transformation: The successful conquests put me over the realm limit of 150; at Ranger's suggestion I cut Finland loose, and the Saars once more face the world without the protection of Odin. On the plus side I suspect that nobody wants to stick their army in crazy.

 

[dragoon9105]

Deus Vult (962-999)​

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After the rather unfortunate death of King Toki, who was left on the field of battle after taking a blow from a hammer, his Firstborn Son Strykar ascended to the Throne. Unlike Toki Stryker was actually competent and in a few short years return Ruthenia to it's rightful place as the greatest power in the world.

Skilled in most things but especially the ways of subterfuge Stryker would be in a position to bring peace within the Kingdom without ever bringing his army to bear. Through aiding the Rus in their wars and establishing A few tactical alliances with surrounding powers Strykar managed to keep his dominant position in Eastern Europe secure for at least another generation, which would free the Kingdom to pursue other goals.

The Crusade for Jerusalem would be one such goal, as the Pope of his own voilation decided that now was indeed the time to liberate the holy land from the Infidel. With the Hedarabians busy in India and the Empire of Mordor having made themselves a Pariah due to their rampant expansion the smaller Levantine dukes would lose control of the Holy City and large swaths of coastline nearbye.

For his participation in the Crusade Strykar was named King of Jerusalem, though Strykar himself had no intention of guarding such lands, and gave them to his Brother, Earning himself levels of prestige all would be envious of.

Strykar in such a short time had established himself as one of the greats, perhaps greater than Baldr, in fact probably greater than Baldr due to Stykar knowing how to do more than simply swing a hammer. Time would of course tell if such fortune would last for Humble Ruthenia.

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Not much to really talk about here, This Session I helped Golle(Russia) Take Perm, an utterly massive AI empire, unfortunately Golle did not have any brothers or dynasts to hand off the extra land to, which I suppose brings up the Topic for today.

Post-Realm Limit expansion, has ended up being a thing alot of us are struggling with including myself, which is good, as its working as designed. Simply taking land after hitting 145 Realm size really doesn't work anymore, as the land you'll take will be in such small amounts that releasing it leads to Adventurers or AI minors gobbling up the the bits you left.

The Two strategies that seem to work instead are, Total Wars, and Playing the Dynasty game hardcore. Since this is multiplayer you cant really expect a single marriage plot to go through so you need to put your dynasty Everywhere and take the opportunities as they come. This has been the primary strategy of our England Player who has spread his dynasty into virtually every region and has seized the Kingdoms of Denmark and Asturias. However due to his spreading, and due removing a large amount of blood from my wife while I was Skuli, I had decided to do something about it in an effort to protect my allies and declared War on England, in what would be a series of wars to eviscerate his dynasty. Luckily however Hadogei came to the Negotiating Table, so we'll see if there will indeed be peace in our time.

The Alternative Method is mine, which involved going to war for large amounts of land very quickly, usually entire Kingdoms, then once the land is unified, giving it to a dynasty member and spitting it out. This has been my plan of action in Poland and Jerusalem and will likely be my strategy going forward in Anatolia, Alania and the Steppe. This does involve going over the size limit however for a few years, and while right now the Size limit modifier doesn't do anything its unfortunately something i'll still have to do in the future becuase Pagan lands simply cant be marriage gamed, and all of my expansion Areas are Pagan. On the bright side if King of Men Reforms his faith then he is a great target for a Crusade, which is a free Kingdom in itself.

 

[EmperorofMordor]

I wouldn't say "Pariah" I was just in the middle of a war when the crusade struck and by the time I won my war and gathered my armies, my declaration of support was more ceremonial than physical, seeing as there were no allied armies in sight and three times my number running around al-Quds.

 

[dragoon9105]

Yea well, Ive (hopefully) got my achievement for Liberating Jerusalem so as long as you stay out of the Caucuses we've got no problems going forward

 

[EmperorofMordor]

On the Banks of the Tigris


Chapter 6: Unlimited Power


Safar 27, 353 (March 3, 964)


Faisal had waited a long time for this moment. His father had worked toward it, and his father before him. The quest that his jidd, his grandfather, Abdul the Undying had begun was finally at it’s end. As Faisal walked out onto the balcony of the Al-Masjid Al-Ḥarām, he was met with the cheers of his conquering army, and a sea of onlookers curious what this new overlord was going to do now that he owned Mecca, most important city in the world.


“My soldiers, people of Mecca, my friends. Decades ago, my grandfather gave my family a mission: defend Islam. Defend Islam against all its enemies, from Kafirs to the north and west to heathens from Hindustan to schismatics just across the Red Sea. Today, that mission is complete, for here we are in Mecca itself!” At this, the soldiers erupted in another round of cheers. The people behind them looked interested, but neither fully engaged nor about to riot just yet. Faisal had been told about this moment, and while he didn’t write the speech nor learn how to say it, his family’s Mu'aqqibat, their Guardian Angel, the pasty one, had done all the preparations before hand. Now all he had to do was get to the good part and the people would be his.


“My friends the time is now. The sons of Abbas have failed to protect the Holy City, their dynasty is now a shell. Now it is time for another to take their place. I hereby and henceforward declare, in the sight of Allah and the people of his holy city, in the sight of the soldiers that brought me here and the grand Imam present to be the true heir to Muhammad (pbuh) and that therefore I am the true and rightful Caliph al-Islam!” With that, his men cheered even louder, and he noticed he definitely had the people’s attention. Now it is time for the finishing blow.


“For too long have we in the Ummah have allowed eastern pagans to infiltrate our homes, conquer our people, and tear down our mosques. No more! A new power is rising, its victory is at hand! This night I declare that the land will be stained by the blood of the Hindus! We march to Persia! To war!” He wasn’t sure why he said “this night” as it was nearly midday, but he wasn’t going to question it, and neither were any of the people down below, for now even the crowd at the back had begun to cheer that someone, anyone was taking charge and doing something about the darkness that had fallen over the Muslim world. Yes, today is a good day.


الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة الجنة


“Neeeeeeeeerd”


“What? I couldn’t resist.”


“Really, a second Lord of the Rings reference in two major speeches?”


“It fit”


“It’s midday! It’s not night!”


“That’s not important right now. All we have to do is make sure this little experiment of ours lasts, as we need to up realmsize as fast as possible to get shipments really going.”


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And we are back to being a session behind everyone else. Thankfully (or not) my wisdom teeth come out tomorrow, so I should have plenty of time with nothing better to do later in the week but write, so one of these days I might actually be caught up. No matter. As you can tell, this session was fruitful, if a bit ruff by the end. Not so bad as the next one, though. It started on a very high note, with the final creation of the Sunni Caliphate.

So that’s good. The introduction of that element has led to my nearly tripling my realmsize in a very short period of time, a period of expansion that most likely will not be matched for a long time, if ever until HOI4.

Unfortunately, the man who restored the Caliphate is...unimpressive. His learning score was adequate to get me into the Hermetics, but not activate my magnum opus, and his stewardship was acceptable, but other than that...ew. Just look at this diplomacy score. Good thing he has an excellent speechwriter.

Anyway he died off after about 10 years, and his successor was killed in battle almost immediately (the fact that he was landed previously caused the game to treat him as ruling for 11 years I believe), I was left with a kid on the throne in a precarious situation. This period is the end of the Decade Sultans, and the beginning of “Vassal bipolar disorder” in which my vassals went from loving me to hating me to loving me seemingly at random, causing obnoxious revolts like these in the middle of a much more important war.

It is also during this time that I had an enormous Yazidi uprising in my capital. I surrendered to it before they could take any holdings, the piety and moral authority now is better than piety, moral authority, and my capital duchy. This also starts the Era of New Caliph Moral Authority Woes. I don’t know what the rest of the world was doing at the time, but moral authority plummeted and stayed that way for a long time, leading to heresy and revolts like this one. It was bad, but the faithful will prevail in time.

This is that much more important war I was talking about. I noticed that since I had Caliphal Subjugation CB, I could take any Sunni Kingdom for 200 piety once every decade or so. So, I decided the best option was to take Persia. All of it. (Or at least, a huge chunk of it). So I did, though the war was not easy, and my vassals revolted in the middle of it. Also during this time I had to increase council authority because I was in no shape to fight a revolt war at the time, so that’s a pain. Anyway, you can see my realmsize skyrocket. Soon my expansions will be over, and development time will begin. At this point, if the achievements didn't involve holding the titles at the end of the game, I could get so many awards for religious head titles, including Saoshyant.

This guy, he wasn’t bad. The kid from that earlier screenshot, he does some pretty great things in his life, and keeps me hovering in the top spots for dynastic score. Not bad stats, either, except for my family’s chronic low diplomacy. The weird thing was that he got through his entire childhood without gaining a single trait, except for his education. I don’t understand it. Oh well.

So here’s the situation at the end of the session. Not bad expansion, if I do say so myself. Soon I will have truly unlimited power (or a nasty crusade, one of the two.) Next up, wiping out some Hindus, inexplicably angering the locals, and once again showing up a bit too late to the party, next time on “On the Banks of the Tigris.”

 

[Firehound15]

THE SONS OF THE NILE

كيف هندوستان ينزف
~How Hindustan Bleeds~

Map of Hedarabian Conquests, c. 1000 AD​

The Christians, now, celebrate one-thousand years after the coming of Isa. As for us, we have been blessed by the rise of a new King - Thadeosi, the son of Mouses. A brilliant, blessed man, he is a favorite of the learned men as much as he is of the court’s women. Unfortunate, indeed, that his first moments ruling over this land were spent in the chaos of rebellion.

Map of Hedarabia during the Revolt of the Councillors​

Led by Orna Aberikid, the revolters are now fighting for increased council powers, attempting to violate the King’s authority as Allah’s chosen caretaker for this land. Needless to say, Thadeosi possesses fully the capacity to defeat the insurrection. However, the rebels are well-armed and far reaching, having already won many victories and sieges in Tam’al-qud.

Even in spite of the chaos bestowed upon him, Hedarabia is in a far stronger than ever before, with Tam’al-qud slowly giving way to royal expeditions. Before long, they hope, all of Hindustan shall recognize Allah. Such aspirations may be in vain, however, for with each step taken in conquering the Hindus, their Jain neighbors become increasingly threatened - and threatening.

King Thadeosi of Hedarabia, Egypt, and Abyssinia​

 

[King of Men]

I am the Sword of the Allfather! There can be no weakness! The Christians will be driven from the mountains; their armies shall be slaughtered, their temples burned! I shall hang without mercy, burn without remorse! FOOOR OOODIIIN!

 

[EmperorofMordor]

I am sorry King of Men, but the Cold Pagans are too far for me to offer the 12 thousand blades of the Caliph.

 

[dragoon9105]

The Year of our Lord 1037 AD

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The Craig Dynasty(James) has United Southern Spain, Scotland and Ireland under one powerful realm and has triggered a new series of religious warfare in the North Sea.

The English War of the Roses continue to rage as various claimates rise up and are put down by the King of England and his allies.

The Remainder of the Von Britannia Dynasty has expanded into France, bringing the crowns of Leon, Aquitaine and England under Angelois control, leaving only france free.

The De Boyardee Dynasty(Mark) Have Conquered and converted large swaths of North Africa and added the crown of Africa to their dynastic holdings.

The Diz Neigh Dynasty continues to wallow without a ruler to lead them and fights constant civil wars with eachother.

The Khan of Great Moravia has spent much of this time consolidating the lands of Pannonia lost to rival dynasty members.

The Hrothgar Dynasty while run out of Jerusalem has expanded over much of the Steppe and Baltic and continued to maintain it's place as the Greatest World Power.

The Hederabian Caliphate continued to strengthen it's hold on India.

The Mordor Dynasty is consolidating its own Empire in the wake of the Crusade, preparing to face off against the Mongols and other steppe peoples still to come from the North.

The Muradev Dynasty(Gollevain) Has seized the Kingdom of Denmark, granting them control over the Baltic and great influence in the affairs of scandinavia.

The Lazuli Dynasty continued to struggle to keep the Greek states together in spite of being sandwiched between larger powers.

The Saar's of Finland have continued to survive despite being surrounded by hostile powers on all sides.

The King of Norway has declared himself Fylkir of the Norse Faith and reformed the faith in the face of Aggression from Ireland and Russia. Such an action however has come at a cost, The Holy Father has declared a Crusade for Norway, and the Fate of those Faithful to the Old Gods now hangs in the Balance.

Current Score Leaderboard:

The Great Powers:

 

[Firehound15]

If I had known how this session went before posting my AAR, I might have opted to call it "How Hindustan makes us bleed."

 

[King of Men]

declared himself Fylkir of the Norse Faith

Actually I didn't get around to creating the Fylkir title, I only reformed the faith. It will be my first act on Sunday.

 

[EmperorofMordor]

Well, glad to see I'm still doing well, and that will only increase as my current ruler finally kicks the bucket, he's racked up quite the score. And my goodness, I couldn't stand the pop ups at realm size 150, I can't imagine getting 30 or more higher than that.

 

[Ranger900]

SAGA OF THE SAARS: MOSTLY HARMEDLESS
Alternative Title: Somehow I've edged into the Independent State Leaderboard
Era: The Era of Peace and Expansion

Well, today's session was actually quite productive for Saarland. Following off where we left last time, with Saarland finally independent and cutting its own path once more. Surprisingly, it wasn't immediately mobbed in adventurers. Infact, Saarland had a significant period with little to no invasions at all right to start. This let Duke Erkki III manage a number of major achievements. The first of which, was the hospital in Suomi finally getting a sickhouse developed. Making it no longer just a building where the dead went to die.

Of course, now its just a place where people go to be sick, and probably die shortly after. Either way, it's actually one of the most advanced hospitals in the world. Only a few Arabian/Mordorite ones beat it.

Erkki III also finally managed to pay back the Jewish moneylenders who had lent to his grandfather.

Unfortunately, this didn't last. The Saars have a good relationship with their moneylenders though, generally we repay in a few decades.

The Saars, now independent, quickly went about trying to spread their religion to what few Pagan states remained (and weren't in a position to come after Saarland if they disagreed.) Unfortunately, this went poorly. Out of 6 missionaries sent out, 5 were imprisoned, and one managed to get some ground in a state near the caspian sea before getting booted out.

Tis truely unfortunate that many in the east weren't buying in on Messalianism, but Saarland will keep trying.

In 1012AD, Errki III finally managed to get his hands on a claim for Insee Cait, otherwise known as Shetland. One he promptly pushed and called upon his armies.

First though, a Catholic rebellion in Gotland and a raider in Suomi had to be dealt with. It feels odd for the Saars to actually have an army of any size.

Also in the first time in Saarish history. The Duke actually had to deal with a council vote that wasn't in his favour. Trying to push a war for his claim on Shetland through, Erkki had to hand off a number of favours to get the council to vote his way.

But vote his way they did, and soon enough the Saarish army was off to Shetland.

At this same time, following the defeated Catholic rebellion, the island of Gotland finally surrendered to the Messalian faith.

Borneholme would follow sometime later.

Errki would also recieve a quite helpful boost in funds just before he started his war. Thanks to a sound investment made some years before.

This was just one of Erkki's successful business ventures during his reign.

Finally, the invasion of Shetland began.

It did not last long, and soon enough Shetland was in Saarish hands.

Though during this period of time, Erkki had to take money from Jewish moneylenders again. At home not one, but three seperate raider parties showed up, and were beat off thanks to a quick hiring of 2400 mercenaries. Then the Saarish family line got even more bizarre then usual. To start with Erkki III outlived his wife, and shortly there after his next heir (and later, the Heir after that as Erkki III lived to be nearly 80 years of age, earning the title of "The Old."

As a consequence of outliving his wife.

Yes, in Saarland, a 66 year old man can end up berothed, and later married, to his granddaughter and have 3 children. Surprisingly enough not only were none of them inbred, one got quick, and another got genius despite neither parent having those things.

As it turns out, Shetland was a very good conquest. The castle there was very well built and contained a significant amount of troops and townspeople. Erkki III was able to at times levy nearly 800 troops personally, and another 600 from his vassals just from the island alone. Later leaders did not have as much success there though.

For the next few years little of interest happened. Erkki focusing on improving his own realm. Though he learned that there was a Slavic Cult working within his own territory as he received a book of legends on his bed.

Unfortunately, despite years of trying to root them out with trained apostate hunters, this cult has not been discovered. Also the Jewish man who arrived at this time served the realm faithfully until Erkki's death and helped with much of the construction that allowed things like the new keep in Suomi to be built in a single year.

By the end of Erkki's III's reign, Kuusisto is able to muster more then 1000 men alone from the Levies, and has a garrison in the 900s.

Yoel the Steward also managed to greatly boost the Saarish technology. Helping usher in a new wave of military fortifications and improvements across the land.

While Erkki III will not go down in history with the same prestige as some of his vaunted predecessors like Into the Monk or the original Erkki. His reign was probably one of the best times for Saarland. Relative peace mixed with incredibly rapid growth rates across the country gave him among other things, the ability to raise more troops personally then the Saars of ages past could have hoped to levy from their entire realm.

Later Saars have benefited from this greatly, and by the end of this Era, the Saars would be able to raise 5000 or more troops. A significant feat considering their earlier days.

Toward the end of the Era, a grand event hit the north. The kingdom of Noregr finally managed to reform their faith.

The Saars do not consider this of much import, though the number of adventurers has risen since then.

Of more import was the release of Karelia to the east from the Kingdom of Rus. Something that the Saars quickly jumped on. Though unfortunately Erkki III would not live to see his ambition completed.

Kakisalmi would all shortly there after.

Not willing to risk losing out on the Karelian lands, Erkki's successor risked his prestige to hit the Karelians a second time, hoping to wipe them out of Saarland. During the campaign he came down with Smallpox, and things were not looking well for the Duke. Going to his court physician, the blind man that Erkki had brough on board from a cave in the woods was brought to heal him.

The mystics treatment worked, though not without side effects for Terho II

Finally the Era came to a close. With Karelia about to fall in totality to Saarish hands, and Yaroslav (who conquered Denmark in a prepared invasion some years earlier) likely to take Bornholme.

Following this war though, Saarland shall be a kingdom!​

 

[EmperorofMordor]

Yay! The Cold Devil Worshipers will soon no longer be almost alone in low-rank status!

 

[King of Men]

By the way, why is the "Saga of the Saars" not called the "Saarga"? An obvious opportunity, missed.

 

[Sailormarsfan1701]

yay im all caught up also it is possible to convert either hoi4 or hoi3 into victoria 2 nwo mod but im not sure if its hoi4 or hoi3 there is currently a megacampaighn in the victoria 2 forum thats in a nwo mod part of the campaign im sure if you ask him he might show you how to convert to the mod IF you decide to go that route

 

[EmperorofMordor]

yay im all caught up also it is possible to convert either hoi4 or hoi3 into victoria 2 nwo mod but im not sure if its hoi4 or hoi3 there is currently a megacampaighn in the victoria 2 forum thats in a nwo mod part of the campaign im sure if you ask him he might show you how to convert to the mod IF you decide to go that route

I think by the end of HOI4 there will probably be a definite winner to the point that continuing would be detrimental and Victoria 2 multiplayer is unstable enough as is that adding a mod on top of that would be a nightmare, and anyway we wouldn't want to steal Zenphoenix's thunder now would we?