We have a Fanatical Purifiers civic, so when can we expect a Fanatical Befrienders civic?

[Me_]

Thank you all for explaining. I think I am starting to understand: so basically massive boosts to diplomacy even more than a fanatic xenophile nation. Sure, why not.
Do I understand this right?

More like bonuses (and penalties) "from" diplomacy, not "to". That is, not making diplomacy easier, but more important.

For the record, do you know about civics, because it's an interesting new feature of the next patch and it's what we're talking about and I'm unsure you know it?
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-62-government-civics-and-hive-minds.1001169/

 

[Notho]

"Fanatical Befrienders" isn't any more extreme than the Blorg, it is the Blorg. "Fanatical Purifiers" as a civic, is based on the AI personality "Fanatical Purifiers". If the Blorg spawns they have the AI personality "Fanatical Befrienders", OP wants a civic based on this AI personality.

Pretty sure I've also seen something similar to "We are Blorg. Resistance is impolite" somewhere else.

My sig maybe. It's based on something Martin said in one of the early blorg streams blended with the borg from TNG.

 

[Domkrat282]

Thank you all for explaining. I think I am starting to understand: so basically massive boosts to diplomacy even more than a fanatic xenophile nation. Sure, why not.
Do I understand this right?

Probably this is not a diplomatic-xenophile, but agressive xenophile, seeking friendship by sending armed friendships.

 

[scaper12123]

This is a completely stupid proposition and I absolutely want to see it happen. The more wild and out-there ways we can play this game, the better. Plus who wouldn't want to play as fanatical huggers?

 

[Avalon8782]

This is a completely stupid proposition and I absolutely want to see it happen. The more wild and out-there ways we can play this game, the better. Plus who wouldn't want to play as fanatical huggers?

So, if they get Xenomorph Armies, would it be an army of fanatical facehuggers?

 

[Emraldis]

So, if they get Xenomorph Armies, would it be an army of fanatical facehuggers?

I already made a race like this, with the starfish. It was pretty great. Everyone was my friend. Those who refuse to be don't count as people and are swiftly removed.

 

[Me_]

You know, we really need more madman civics. Like Technical Pacifist - they will not attack you, but their loyal vassals will. Or Mad scientists - get access to special purge type - Radical Experiments that make pops die out and provide science on the way.

 

[Saviour of Galaxy]

You know, we really need more madman civics. Like Technical Pacifist - they will not attack you, but their loyal vassals will. Or Mad scientists - get access to special purge type - Radical Experiments that make pops die out and provide science on the way.

Haha, great idea with both
Or "perpetual backstabbers" who can attack before truce time expire if they spend some influence! no, I'm kidding, that would be too imbalanced most likely

 

[Lothmar]

BLORG!!!!

 

[Exarian]

Fanatic Befriender:
- Must be fanatic xenophilic + peaceful
- You cannot declare war
- All defensive war demands are 200% more expensive
- You get +100 to relations to every empire
- You cannot choose any rivals. Instead, you get influence for every month of peace, growing in time (+1 for first year of peace, another +1 for 10 years, and finally +1 for years 10+, +3 max), any war reset the counter.
- You cannot suppress factions

 

[JT Jag]

Fanatical Befrienders are... Uh... A bit more direct in their acquisition of friends than a Federation Builder would be. For one, it would only be available to species with the solitary and repugnant traits, plus you'd need to be a fanatically xenophilic militarist. Friendship through superior firepower, baby.

As fun as the Blorg are, I don't think they warrant a civic more or less exclusively for them. I'm all for the general idea, but it'd have to be more widely applicable, in my opinion.

 

[Saviour of Galaxy]

- (...) peaceful
- You cannot declare war

WHAT HERESY IS THIS YOU INFIDEL! IMMA BEFRIEND SHIT OUT OF YOU!

 

[GC13]

Fanatic Befriender:
- Must be fanatic xenophilic + peaceful
- You cannot declare war

Fanatical Befrienders are the xenophilic counterpart to Fanatical Purifiers: their ethics are fanatic xenophile and militarist.

 

[Everstill]

Yes, just like the Fanatical Purifiers.

Also we need Evangelizing Zealots.

Fanatic Befriender:
- Must be fanatic xenophilic + peaceful
- You cannot declare war
- All defensive war demands are 200% more expensive
- You get +100 to relations to every empire
- You cannot choose any rivals. Instead, you get influence for every month of peace, growing in time (+1 for first year of peace, another +1 for 10 years, and finally +1 for years 10+, +3 max), any war reset the counter.
- You cannot suppress factions

The Blorg are aggressive.

 

[Untrustedlife]

As fun as the Blorg are, I don't think they warrant a civic more or less exclusively for them. I'm all for the general idea, but it'd have to be more widely applicable, in my opinion.

Fanatic xenpphile + militarist could be the requirement, but right now they have a very exclusive ai personality of the same name

 

[Untrustedlife]

Fanatic Befriender:
- Must be fanatic xenophilic + peaceful
- You cannot declare war
- All defensive war demands are 200% more expensive
- You get +100 to relations to every empire
- You cannot choose any rivals. Instead, you get influence for every month of peace, growing in time (+1 for first year of peace, another +1 for 10 years, and finally +1 for years 10+, +3 max), any war reset the counter.
- You cannot suppress factions

Ick, you know the blorg are fanatical xenophillic militarist right? They make friends by force if nessecary, and it usually is.

 

[GC13]

Also we need Evangelizing Zealots.

I would ideally only like them to be added as a civic after a proper culture and religion expansion is released, so you can convert people to your religion. Right now the true oddity of their behavior is that the AI Evangelizing Zealots won't liberate empires, which generates a new spiritualist empire (presumably of your religion).

 

[jalapen0]

Sound like vegans.

 

[GC13]

Allies are great, but vassals are better. The real question is if you should encourage one-planet vassals with a flat gain per diplomatic relation, or if you should just increase the Influence by the total Pops of all of your friends with a multiplier for each step (say 0.25x for NAP, 0.75x for federation ally, and the full 1x for vassal or protectorate)? I favor the latter, of course.

 

[Endless Rain]

You know, we really need more madman civics. Like Technical Pacifist - they will not attack you, but their loyal vassals will. Or Mad scientists - get access to special purge type - Radical Experiments that make pops die out and provide science on the way.

Lottocracy: Your empire ethics will change randomly every time you get a new ruler. Cannot be used by Hive Minds or other empires with immortal rulers, and cannot turn you into a Hive Mind. Other than that, anything goes.