Fighting a civil war during a zombie invasion. The french should check if their sense of opportunity is working properly.
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Thorez will rule Pac France akin to a Stalinist rule; the good thing for him is that with the immediate danger of the Infected, he can easily gain sway amongst the populace. IOTL, the Socialist/Communist party gained considerable influence amongst the French people, even holding a minority government (I believe) so it isn't too crazy that Thorez would act this way.
Not much of a civil war; it was over quick. The aftermath and the partitioning of French Colonial holdings will be discussed later.
Thank you for the comments!
Scholar : Maybe in the next chapter, I will have one update that will be solely based on the world outside of Europe.
Partitioning of Colonial France
After days of negotiating, Attlee agreed to send British troops to occupy French Central Africa, French Madagascar and French holdings in south-western Africa, those areas were given a reasonable amount of autonomy within the United Kingdom with the exception of Madagascar, which remained a direct rule. Whilst French Central Africa - later Equilateral Africa was led by an Allied chosen leader, the south-western holdings - later Ivory Coast was led via a mixed special rule[3]. Ivory Coast still got its autonomy, but it had no-one but the British to represent them. The Americans were given the majority of French north-western Africa - later Benin-Shael, French Guyana and the French pacific islands. Given that only the United States and Britain were attending these meetings, both members decided to send a notification to President Thorez about the partition. It is unknown as to weather Thorez did get the message or that he did receive it, but did nothing against it since he had no reasonable way of re-claiming those lands, let alone control it.
A map of Central Africa after the Iceland ConferenceThe Conference ended on February 27, with three new nations born from French West Africa; Ivory Coast, Benin-Sahel and Equilateral Africa, all three being recognised by the United States and the United Kingdom, along with various nations that made up the Allies: Canada, New Zealand, South Africa etc. The nations that didn't recognise them included France and the Comintern; neutral nations varied in recognition. The new nation of Equilateral Africa was led by President Jean Bedel Bokassa, a former Free French Captain, serving in the 9th Colonial Division, Capt. Bokassa participated in the Allied landings in Provence, France[4], the assault against the German 157th Division in Grenoble and the invasion of Germany. Benin-Sahel was led by President Georges Pierre Pey, a French educated Arab from the former French colony of Algeria. President Pey was born to a middle class family on June 9, 1910 in Algiers; later went to France in 1931 to study politics. In 1938, he went back to his homeland and in 1940, joined Free French forces after the fall of Paris. Given a commission as a Lieutenant, Peys fought against the Afrika Korps in North Africa as part of Operation Torch; later fighting in France during Operation Overlord. Pey left the Free French Forces in 1945.
With the general collapse of mainland France and the partitioning of her colonial holdings, France as a nation ceased to exist on the international scale. As well, with the fall of France, the Infected began to spread into Spain. President Franco's reign in Spain became numbered.
President Bokassa of Equilateral Africa in full military dress
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[1] - From President Thorez's inauguration speech
[2] - The Iceland Conference was the first of three, the others held in 1953 and 1959
[3] - Ivory Coast was given independence but with no suitable head of state found, the government of Britain decided to govern it directly, using British laws. However, the people living within Ivory Coast would be considered Colonial citizens. (Basically, I tried to sum up my reason for releasing a country with no leaderso)
[4] - Part of Operation Dragoon
Partitioning of Colonial France
My decision to partition French West Africa was not based on Imperialism, but for the general continuity of stability in West Africa. - Prime Minister Clement Attlee
A map of French West Africa after the Iceland Conference
Almost immediately after the declaration by President Thorez of a "...Communist revolution against the Imperial Fascist scum....that is De Gaulle and his government..."[1], an emergency meeting was held between the United Kingdom and the United States in Iceland. This week-long meeting - later known as "The Iceland Conference of 1947"[2] had the American ambassador to the United Kingdom, William Averell Harriman meet the recently elected Prime Minister Clement Attlee to discuss about certain territories that France no longer have control over, namely French West Africa, French Guyana, Madagascar and the various French Pacific islands. The greatest concern that both the US ambassador and Prime Minister Attlee had was regarding the spread of Communism to French territories, a plausible situation given that mainland France had been overrun by the Infected and a Communist revolution has occurred, both parties agreed that that was not to happen under any circumstance. The second reason that concerned both men was the possible situation where one of the high ranking French officials in French West Africa were to seize power and to possibly be anti-Allied. The plan that was discussed during the conference was mainly the partitioning of French Colonial holdings, one that was the polar opposite of Attlee's foreign policy: Decolonisation.
A map of French West Africa after the Iceland Conference
After days of negotiating, Attlee agreed to send British troops to occupy French Central Africa, French Madagascar and French holdings in south-western Africa, those areas were given a reasonable amount of autonomy within the United Kingdom with the exception of Madagascar, which remained a direct rule. Whilst French Central Africa - later Equilateral Africa was led by an Allied chosen leader, the south-western holdings - later Ivory Coast was led via a mixed special rule[3]. Ivory Coast still got its autonomy, but it had no-one but the British to represent them. The Americans were given the majority of French north-western Africa - later Benin-Shael, French Guyana and the French pacific islands. Given that only the United States and Britain were attending these meetings, both members decided to send a notification to President Thorez about the partition. It is unknown as to weather Thorez did get the message or that he did receive it, but did nothing against it since he had no reasonable way of re-claiming those lands, let alone control it.
A map of Central Africa after the Iceland Conference
With the general collapse of mainland France and the partitioning of her colonial holdings, France as a nation ceased to exist on the international scale. As well, with the fall of France, the Infected began to spread into Spain. President Franco's reign in Spain became numbered.
President Bokassa of Equilateral Africa in full military dress
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[1] - From President Thorez's inauguration speech
[2] - The Iceland Conference was the first of three, the others held in 1953 and 1959
[3] - Ivory Coast was given independence but with no suitable head of state found, the government of Britain decided to govern it directly, using British laws. However, the people living within Ivory Coast would be considered Colonial citizens. (Basically, I tried to sum up my reason for releasing a country with no leaders
o)[4] - Part of Operation Dragoon
I an liking this more and more....Question is: How long until they reach Africa through the Middle east
And China through Russia
And China through Russia
Depends. If the Allies in Africa can stop the Infection at the Suez Canal (basically at the Sinai) then they might survive - at least for a while. On the other hand, in Russia, the Infected would slow down considerable as "General Winter" will once again be an ally to the Russians; helping just enough to survive but not enough to do serious attacks against them. An outbreak will happen in China, but in a totally different way, a scientific way.
'DEM COMMUNISTS!
They be producin' the zombies....
But seriously I hope this doesn't end with it all being an experiment by the Wunderwaffe
They be producin' the zombies....
But seriously I hope this doesn't end with it all being an experiment by the Wunderwaffe
Let's see how quickly and how spectacularly enlightened policies such as inflicting Bokassa on Africa a few decades early blow up in the US and UK's faces,
A partition Africa won't stop the infected! Mwahahaha!
Yeah, I got my own experience of releasing a leader-less country, as in no ministers exists. O_O
Yeah, I got my own experience of releasing a leader-less country, as in no ministers exists. O_O
Yep, Same experience here when I was modding in Qing with Queen for my AAR.
and Africa.
BUT ANYWAYS!
I can guess that the Humans won this war, or at least abandoned the overrun continents, making the island-nations of the world superpowers.
Or else this AAR wouldn't exist (since it's in the form of past-tense. (and a report at that)
and Africa.
BUT ANYWAYS!
I can guess that the Humans won this war, or at least abandoned the overrun continents, making the island-nations of the world superpowers.
Or else this AAR wouldn't exist (since it's in the form of past-tense. (and a report at that)
Lets just say that the outbreak in Asia is a result of a container ship and Japan.
And the worst thing about leaderless countries is that you can't know beforehand - unless you already knew - that they won't have leaders. I thought Ivory Coast had leaders until I found out that the Nation ID is U88.
Something like that will happen when the Infected occupy Iberia.
Possibly, but if they fence some areas up, then it would be plausible for some nations in Africa to survive.
I know, I hate it when that happens.
Really liking this so far, but:
how do the Infected survive? We have seen that they eat human bodies, but they are the very definition of a habitat-destroying overharvester. If every body they touch but do not eat adds to their numbers, they will very, very soon run out of human bodies to eat. Lets assume that they even eat animals, which, once again, creates the problem of overharvestation.
Now, with the food gone, the zombies, even if they themselves do not need to eat in order to simply exist, they will lose energy to move, or to act. Even if you discount rotting, a couple of extreme colds would wreak havoc on a human body with no thermo-regulatory abilities.
Unless the zombies set up human/animal farms to keep themselves alive, they will either by the virtue of freezing to second death, or by the virtue of mass cannibalism, die out rather quickly. I'd say 10-20 years tops.
Nevertheless, awesome AAR so far, and I hope you incorporate some of my ideas
how do the Infected survive? We have seen that they eat human bodies, but they are the very definition of a habitat-destroying overharvester. If every body they touch but do not eat adds to their numbers, they will very, very soon run out of human bodies to eat. Lets assume that they even eat animals, which, once again, creates the problem of overharvestation.
Now, with the food gone, the zombies, even if they themselves do not need to eat in order to simply exist, they will lose energy to move, or to act. Even if you discount rotting, a couple of extreme colds would wreak havoc on a human body with no thermo-regulatory abilities.
Unless the zombies set up human/animal farms to keep themselves alive, they will either by the virtue of freezing to second death, or by the virtue of mass cannibalism, die out rather quickly. I'd say 10-20 years tops.
Nevertheless, awesome AAR so far, and I hope you incorporate some of my ideas
Really liking this so far, but:
how do the Infected survive? We have seen that they eat human bodies, but they are the very definition of a habitat-destroying overharvester. If every body they touch but do not eat adds to their numbers, they will very, very soon run out of human bodies to eat. Lets assume that they even eat animals, which, once again, creates the problem of overharvestation.
Now, with the food gone, the zombies, even if they themselves do not need to eat in order to simply exist, they will lose energy to move, or to act. Even if you discount rotting, a couple of extreme colds would wreak havoc on a human body with no thermo-regulatory abilities.
Unless the zombies set up human/animal farms to keep themselves alive, they will either by the virtue of freezing to second death, or by the virtue of mass cannibalism, die out rather quickly. I'd say 10-20 years tops.
Nevertheless, awesome AAR so far, and I hope you incorporate some of my ideas
Well, the outbreak isn't going to last for decades; as fast as it began to spread, it will too die out quickly - the spread of the Infection, not the Infected themselves. Basically, around the 2-3 year of the outbreak, the surviving nations will be ready to take the fight to the Infected whilst the Infected themselves will begin to die off or in the case of them being in Russia, then they would be die from extreme cold.
And no. As much as human farms seem awesome, the intelligence of the Infected is much like a wild animal. Having enough instinct to work together to bring down something bigger and maybe form simple tactics but something in the form of an organized army is far beyond them.
As well, thank you for taking interest into my AAR. Another update will happen during my Easter 4-day weekend.
Thanks for showing a glimpse of whats going on outside of Europe... Let me see if I get it right, at this moment (and I know that this is not following an actual timeline) the only remaining human pockets in Europe are: Iberia, the north tip of Scandinavia, Switzerland and the large islands. To the East them zombies must be having dinner in Moscow and Ankara, or something like it. Am I missing something?
I thought that it would be only appropriate to read your AAR as you do the same with my own and it clearly wasn't a mistake. Although the basic premise of the storyline is, cautiously spoken, a little bit phantastic (), I otherwise like your creativity and especially your writing skills. Also the part about Scandinavia and Switzerland was excellent, as it clearly indicates that this is not going to end like a classical horror movie, where everything and everyone is just screwed as soon as the credits roll in. Unfortunately you already revealed that the Infected are going to be ultimately defeated by humanity without a spoiler warning, but nevertheless, a good read. If I would participate in the custom to subscribe threads, I would add this thread to my list.
I have two additional remarks:
1. Are the aliens really that aggressive in your game? Whenever I used the alienattack cheat myself, the aliens seemed extremely passive to me and barely declared war on the nation that possessed their original province. Sometimes they even refused to move out of their initial province and just stockpiled their divisions.
2. I think that you underestimate the solidarity among humans. True, if humans are directly confronted with extreme situations, they become irrational, unethical and even feral, but on a larger and more abstract scale I would expect a much harsher reaction from humanity regarding an infection that threatens the very existence of mankind, and certainly no confrontations on 'minor' battlefields, like capitalism vs. communism. If the only thing the international community did in response to the Infection was the evacuation of some government officials and some lost battles, than this is a really bad picture of humanity. As long as there are parts of the world not directly in a status of emergency, these parts would provide as much help as possible to the threatened humans; it sounds utopistic, but is actually lived reality; only look at recent catastrophes in Japan, Haiti or Indochina. Humans almost always react, when they are not directly threatened themselves, to catastrophes of such a scale with compassion and intense, organized and large-scale support. I would at least expect that, as soon as the dimension and graveness of the Infection became apparent, all intact governments on Earth would jointly coordinate their resistance against the Infection together and try to rescue as much humans as possible. For example, at least some attempts to evacuate the population of the Iberian Peninsula to other continents or protected islands (after a quarantine, of course) would be made, and considering that no navy is necessary to delay the Infected advance, I would bet that the evacution of at least half of the Iberian population would not be impossible if all governments on Earth would provide their navies for transport. An ongoing conflict between the western world and the Soviet Union is perhaps an explanation for the initial lack of trust between some nations, but they would nevertheless cooperate in order to save as many lifes as possible.
), I otherwise like your creativity and especially your writing skills. Also the part about Scandinavia and Switzerland was excellent, as it clearly indicates that this is not going to end like a classical horror movie, where everything and everyone is just screwed as soon as the credits roll in. Unfortunately you already revealed that the Infected are going to be ultimately defeated by humanity without a spoiler warning, but nevertheless, a good read. If I would participate in the custom to subscribe threads, I would add this thread to my list. I have two additional remarks:
1. Are the aliens really that aggressive in your game? Whenever I used the alienattack cheat myself, the aliens seemed extremely passive to me and barely declared war on the nation that possessed their original province. Sometimes they even refused to move out of their initial province and just stockpiled their divisions.
2. I think that you underestimate the solidarity among humans. True, if humans are directly confronted with extreme situations, they become irrational, unethical and even feral, but on a larger and more abstract scale I would expect a much harsher reaction from humanity regarding an infection that threatens the very existence of mankind, and certainly no confrontations on 'minor' battlefields, like capitalism vs. communism. If the only thing the international community did in response to the Infection was the evacuation of some government officials and some lost battles, than this is a really bad picture of humanity. As long as there are parts of the world not directly in a status of emergency, these parts would provide as much help as possible to the threatened humans; it sounds utopistic, but is actually lived reality; only look at recent catastrophes in Japan, Haiti or Indochina. Humans almost always react, when they are not directly threatened themselves, to catastrophes of such a scale with compassion and intense, organized and large-scale support. I would at least expect that, as soon as the dimension and graveness of the Infection became apparent, all intact governments on Earth would jointly coordinate their resistance against the Infection together and try to rescue as much humans as possible. For example, at least some attempts to evacuate the population of the Iberian Peninsula to other continents or protected islands (after a quarantine, of course) would be made, and considering that no navy is necessary to delay the Infected advance, I would bet that the evacution of at least half of the Iberian population would not be impossible if all governments on Earth would provide their navies for transport. An ongoing conflict between the western world and the Soviet Union is perhaps an explanation for the initial lack of trust between some nations, but they would nevertheless cooperate in order to save as many lifes as possible.
I don't want to get into a long drawn-out argument which will make the MODS close the thread, but I just have to say;
Humans would do that. But in a Media-controlled society as ours we would gradually push it out of view. Since the average consumer doesn't want to hear about the massacre at Grenoble (or wherever) over Breakfast, or Dinner. The government would probably not do anything that would cause press attention to be focused on the 'infected'. They would send Expeditionary forces and other things, but would not bother with large-scale assaults in the early hours of the infection. That would come after they are all dead (humans...or infected)
Humans would do that. But in a Media-controlled society as ours we would gradually push it out of view. Since the average consumer doesn't want to hear about the massacre at Grenoble (or wherever) over Breakfast, or Dinner. The government would probably not do anything that would cause press attention to be focused on the 'infected'. They would send Expeditionary forces and other things, but would not bother with large-scale assaults in the early hours of the infection. That would come after they are all dead (humans...or infected)
No, thank YOU for commenting! As well, you are correct. The Infection has mostly been confined towards Europe; a later update will show the situation in Eastern Europe and in the Far East. As well, there is a pocket in Pac, France; a France under Thorez and his Communist rule. BTW: I added a new flag for them.
I thought that it would be only appropriate to read your AAR as you do the same with my own and it clearly wasn't a mistake. Although the basic premise of the storyline is, cautiously spoken, a little bit phantastic (
I have two additional remarks:
1. Are the aliens really that aggressive in your game? Whenever I used the alienattack cheat myself, the aliens seemed extremely passive to me and barely declared war on the nation that possessed their original province. Sometimes they even refused to move out of their initial province and just stockpiled their divisions.
2. I think that you underestimate the solidarity among humans. True, if humans are directly confronted with extreme situations, they become irrational, unethical and even feral, but on a larger and more abstract scale I would expect a much harsher reaction from humanity regarding an infection that threatens the very existence of mankind, and certainly no confrontations on 'minor' battlefields, like capitalism vs. communism. If the only thing the international community did in response to the Infection was the evacuation of some government officials and some lost battles, than this is a really bad picture of humanity. As long as there are parts of the world not directly in a status of emergency, these parts would provide as much help as possible to the threatened humans; it sounds utopistic, but is actually lived reality; only look at recent catastrophes in Japan, Haiti or Indochina. Humans almost always react, when they are not directly threatened themselves, to catastrophes of such a scale with compassion and intense, organized and large-scale support. I would at least expect that, as soon as the dimension and graveness of the Infection became apparent, all intact governments on Earth would jointly coordinate their resistance against the Infection together and try to rescue as much humans as possible. For example, at least some attempts to evacuate the population of the Iberian Peninsula to other continents or protected islands (after a quarantine, of course) would be made, and considering that no navy is necessary to delay the Infected advance, I would bet that the evacution of at least half of the Iberian population would not be impossible if all governments on Earth would provide their navies for transport. An ongoing conflict between the western world and the Soviet Union is perhaps an explanation for the initial lack of trust between some nations, but they would nevertheless cooperate in order to save as many lifes as possible.
First off, I truly have to thank you. Not only did you say I've created an excellent read, but you also are the first (and only I think) to have posted such a long response in any of my AAR's. So for that, I have to salute you. Now, onto the questions.
1) In my first trial, they were indeed as you said - passive. However, what I did was coax them; by that I mean loading up as them and then start to invade some of the neighbouring provinces. After that is done - in my game anyways - the "aliens" start attacking; even nuking Munich (which then I had to edit the save file to not allow the aliens that ability
). But mostly, it was a joint effort between me playing as the aliens and first West Germany and then France-ish. 2) I agree with you here too, however, I've only started to scratch the defense humanity is going to put up. A little spoiler - WWI is going to happen in Spain
. Obviously, like you said, then nations unaffected - the United States, Canada, Brazil etc. are going to help via sending troops to fight overseas. But, keep in mind that WWII just recently ended - the majority of the nations not affected by the Outbreak still have the freshness of WWII in their minds; but this doesn't mean they won't send expeditionary forces - just means that they might delay it. Also, they would need to co-operate with other now - Britain and the US are still alive, but the Soviet Union is being destroyed by the Infected - should the two countries lead this new alliance or extend an invitation to Marshal Zhukov? You've basically summed up the majority of the reactions that other governments had.
And to answer your other question, no, they can't swim. So Gibraltar should be safe.
Don't get your hopes up. I've read some of the other entries and they too are awesome eg. The newspaper formatted AAR about the CSA in Vicky 2 as well as the govornator in HoI3.
In all, I'd be more than happy to win third place - which would allow me to purchase a copy of Darkest Hour but first and second would be nice also