WC - One faith - money

[Blust]

Hello, I'm coming for a typical "can i WC in this position ?" as well as "how do I make money ?"

This is where I stand :

I have 4 armies of 16/4/4 but I can't really double their numbers or add canons because my economy isn't great. I've seen people complaining about having too much money or making 500 ducats a month and I'm confused.

I've started pushing absolutism, Spain is my junior (I'm playing orthodox), Crimea, Syria and a bunch of minors are my vassals. The HRE is dissolved and I'm starting to eat India and I could eat a lot more if I had more money for monuments (those that gives missionnaries and good stuff) and especially armies. I've read I should build courthouses everywhere but the problem remains money.

My ideas are : religious, quantity, admin, influence, humanist and the next one would be offensive or trade.

Any help is welcome

 

[Ferdinand_Bardamu]

Hello,

Do you have Trade Companies? I think the most 'optimal' way of playing the Ottomans is to push east for Trade Companies ASAP. Have you stated the Levant (your same culture)? These things combined should see you rich enough.

You can obviously still World Conquest but I think it would be more comfortable if you had already conquered Persia and/or North India by this point.

 

[Big Bad France]

You only have 2 merchants. Establish trade companies to gain extra merchants and push trade from India to Constantinople. Also, if you conquer Venice, it looks like you could move your trade capital there and give your income a nice boost. So maybe attack there next.

It looks to me like you are in decent shape for a world conquest. It's kind of hard to say on the One Faith. You are going to need to complete the monument in Jerusalem to get a 6th missionary. I've never successfully completed a One Faith, but I'm trying one with Spain currently and it's going to be close.

 

[bokorthedust]

How the hell did you end up with loans and 18% inflation as the Ottomans in 1623? Seems like you've mismanaged everything that could be mismanaged in the game if you ended up with your economy in the hole and only 96k troops by this point, as the Ottoman Empire. Could you provide a summary of how you ended up like this?

 

[Guibou]

Your inflation and loans interest are really high. (you probably already know that)

Try to sell titles, take war rep instead of cash. How is your navy costing 1/3 of your army budget ? too much heavies ? you kill england and got spain. I think you can safelly mothball your fleet for a while that would net you like 15 ducats a month alone.

Get the adviser that lower inflation and go for asia for TC as other said. Get TC = get merchants = get money

What are your ideas ? Can you deus vult your way to the bank of ming ?

 

[Blust]

Ok I had 0 TC, I've made TC everything south of Anatolia (after converting it) and it did made a difference.

I've also recruited 2 more armies and built a bunch of light ships to protect trade. I took loans to upgrade monuments and build manufactories (Jérusalem and Stonehenge lvl 3). I need to delete heavies then. Do I need to use the admin points to buy off inflation ? It's going high very fast now that I'm promoting trade in TC

 

[iClipse]

You're in a decent spot for WC, but one faith is a different beast. I'd say to try anyway, and if you fail you'll learn where the painpoints are.

To speed up conquest you should also really take diplomatic ideas. It means provinces cost less warscore, so you can either take more provinces or take the same amount of provinces but also take money/war reps in the same deal.

 

[MatthewP]

One thing I would recommend is to take diplo next. It’ll help you much more than offensive or trade. This is because while the advice to create trade companies was good and necessary, the real way to fix your economy is to conquer Asia, starting with Indonesia and the rest of India. That and some manufacturies and TC investments (the ones which give goods produced per province) will make you rich.

Diplo will help you a ton with AE management (including the policy with humanist) as well as the huge war score discount. Trade will never bring you close to as much money as you’ll get from leveraging this to expand faster.

edit: also, TBH, sitting at 20% inflation I would just turn off promote trade. I doubt it’s worth it. If you need more trade power in a node, conquer the node. This should happen fast once you get absolutism going.

 

[Guibou]

edit: also, TBH, sitting at 20% inflation I would just turn off promote trade. I doubt it’s worth it. If you need more trade power in a node, conquer the node. This should happen fast once you get absolutism going.

Exactly this, unless you are at 49% in one node and have truce around, using it will net you the merchant, otherwise don't use it.

 

[Methys]

You are decently on track for a WC. One faith is likely to be a challenge at this point as the new world is going to have an awful lot of non-orthodox provinces that you will need to deal with.

Regarding your money situation, you should focus your conquests towards India. There are a lot of high value trade goods there that will shoot up your trade income. When making peace, take as many centres of trade you can, core, convert and then add these provinces to the TC. You should avoid adding non trade centre provinces to TC's as this will cause some governing capacity issues until you have town halls available.

In addition to India, you should take out the Timurids ASAP and in your first war take as much of the Persian trade node as possible. This together with new Indian land will allow you to dominate this trade route back to Constantinople.

In terms of your western expansion, focus first on fully annexing Venice, and then take out anything else in the Venetian trade node. You will then have 100% control of Venetian trade node and can move your trade capital there and direct all trade flow to it with your new TC merchants.

Finally, with your ideas. You should take diplomatic next for the war score cost reduction, to take more of the high dev Indian land.

Hope this helps.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

You are decently on track for a WC. One faith is likely to be a challenge at this point as the new world is going to have an awful lot of non-orthodox provinces that you will need to deal with.

Huh. I missed that he switched to Orthodox. Strange choice on this patch for a one faith attempt. Doable, but seems strange to sac Ottoman government for a religion that is probably going to wind up converting slower overall.