Also horde Provinces defect in the same way that normal provinces do, so theres no need to ever gain infamy.
WC:is it possible in DW?
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So this a thing good to know. Also i suppose... are you able to make settlement in horde province as horde?
War between hordes fuctions a lot like normal wars, so you probably cant, you can just ask for the land in a peace deal.
Choose or/or. I mean in first quote you suppose that if ur horde, and fight a horde their provinces defect as normal(non-horde) provinces, then you say they not... decide man...
Hrm?? By defect i mean after 2 years of occupation they switch sides to your horde. That event has nothing to do with the way inter horde wars work in general. This occurence is probably not WAD, but it still works.
thank you for sharing your experience with us my dear friend.and sry it had to be due to a car accident.the tactic that i was using was forming hre around 1413 to 1418. but infamy oimit got in my way.
what do you think about a wc with that option.im soo irritated by the fact that i cant find a way to burn infamy faster!?
hordes got a big bonus in that though.
Still i just think : What to do after WC in 1500? Aspecialy as you are Muslim if you do it with horde.
Whatever hordes have another good thing - no diplomats needed for the conquest. Just produce army, conquer, wait until defect, conquer more, build more army, wait until more defect etc. So you just use spare diplomats for generals, and conquering other hordes. And as you anyway get other hordes lands just by occupation, you need only to use diplomats to annex them - just to take their lands faster. I think only hard thing would be making big enough armies, but you can just mint... Anyway i think WC by 1500 is possible with hordes, if in 50 years you conquer most of europe, asia and africa, then reform, and change your tech, so you can build ships. But as it is given by decision to form mughals, it is quite easy. There is to be sad that you get muslim tech group by forming mughals, so if you manage to get trade tech 7 before 1470, it is quite propable that you will conquer the world. At least if you manage to conquer japan & americas.
Whatever hordes have another good thing - no diplomats needed for the conquest. Just produce army, conquer, wait until defect, conquer more, build more army, wait until more defect etc. So you just use spare diplomats for generals, and conquering other hordes. And as you anyway get other hordes lands just by occupation, you need only to use diplomats to annex them - just to take their lands faster. I think only hard thing would be making big enough armies, but you can just mint... Anyway i think WC by 1500 is possible with hordes, if in 50 years you conquer most of europe, asia and africa, then reform, and change your tech, so you can build ships. But as it is given by decision to form mughals, it is quite easy. There is to be sad that you get muslim tech group by forming mughals, so if you manage to get trade tech 7 before 1470, it is quite propable that you will conquer the world. At least if you manage to conquer japan & americas.
I have tried Ottomans (btw, their starting sliders are quite bad for WC and they have Jizya :-( ) and I'm afraid that diplomats will not allow you to finish WC before 1500. Perhaps, dismantling HRE should be a first priority - in hope that it will help consolidation of Europe. But perhaps hordes are the best bet.
Diplomats present an issue only if you're not a horde. I'm going to give it a shot as the Timurids with no cheats, but while success is unlikely, it should determine feasibility.
So, as hordes need no diplomats, just armies, these are best for quick WC. And timurids should work best, as they can easily form mughals, and become monarchy when you need to reform.
I suspect that GH might be better. Timurids has no easy way to Europe and it's necessary to absorb Europe ASAP, before they get to better techs. Since you don't want to form Mughals too early, Timurids ability to do it quickly isn't much of advantage. I have some concerns about TSC though - it's one thing when you have 100 provinces rebelling, but with 100 years WC you would be in situation when there's a rebellion in 500 provinces. I'm thinking it might be better to leave stronger rebels alone. After they defect they will probably disband some units (or go bankrupt) and then you can reconquer them again.
I was wondering if it's possible to do WC before 1500 under normal circumstances. Which means Timur will die sooner or later and that won't be the only TSC you'll have to deal with. If you conquer Europe and form Mughals early you may get away with having to deal with only 2 TSC.Reloading every time timur dies, can solve the TSC problem.
