Real world conquest is indeed nearly impossible. Protectorating and making half the world your vassal/client state is doable for most good players. Sadly this is what most people aim for.
WC in 1.8 - even more impossible?
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It is not, I will most likely achieve a 1 tag WC by 1700 (or sooner) but in a worst case scenario I will achieve it by 1740.
How does this work? I always found the last revoke reform required adding new HRE provinces which you won't have by 1470
You need to store enough IA in the form of provinces before revoking; giving 12 provinces to your allies shoud be enough but just in case I would give them 16 because the game seems to be bugged ATM (...)
Not 100% sure about this. This guy has finished a normal WC in 1695:
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126 years to core/annex all those former protectorates sounds like an awfully long time. I doubt he'll do it since it's incredibly boring.
126 * 12 * 11 = 16632 ADM / 15 (ADM idea) = 1108 BT he could core. And that's with an average ADM 3 ruler, plus he can annex a lot of his vassals so he only spends DIP. Adding claims on top and other cost reducing thingies, he could probably core 1500 BT at least and probably diplo annex at least 800-1000 BT. Considering his existing possessions and the fact that he hasn't used his magic HRE button, it's pretty close to a one tag WC - quite impressive for Norway.
If they can westernize you should have a province adjecent to them, just fab a claim or something and make them vassal.
What he did is impressive but it was "just" a protectorate rush and despite still having all that time available it is going to be nigh-on impossible to achieve a 1 tag WC without the HRE "magic" button; even with the magic button due to the new rules of 1.8 it needs to be planned from the very beginning of the game (...) and judging by the world map it was not (i.e. not the objective).
yeah, one-tag requires you set up the HRE princes in advance. I assume you are using HRE Crimea as the main horde land holder, and using multiple vassals to chain around Africa to get coring range? (I think you'll need several princes at once to core stuff fast enough, but I haven't done the basetax math) Aq Qoyunlu is also rather easy to get into HRE as well.
One quirk I discovered is that horde nations do not get re-released as Khanates, but instead as tribal governments (though retaining nomad tech). I doubt that will be a problem, though.
Technically, nomad tech HRE vassals are not necessary, but they should greatly reduce the rebel stomping insanity.
One quirk I discovered is that horde nations do not get re-released as Khanates, but instead as tribal governments (though retaining nomad tech). I doubt that will be a problem, though.
Technically, nomad tech HRE vassals are not necessary, but they should greatly reduce the rebel stomping insanity.
Since I will be in a permanent state of war the vassals should be able to take care of most rebellions so lower tech vassals despite very useful might not be needed; yes I plan on bringing no less than 10 princes to core Ming but I suspect that what I really need are 15-20.
Oh they need land connection? Damn I wanted to create my Dutch Raj.
vassals are semi unreliable with dealing with other vassals rebels. Occasionally they help, occasionally they gather up into a 200-stack and die horribly to attrition
It's abit though when I already control all of the low countries.
Oh right, I forgot they made moving your capital harder...well, you can try to get a land connection anyway
Yeah since I'm in the HRE I can't move my capital out of the it.Oh right, I forgot they made moving your capital harder...well, you can try to get a land connection anyway
Well I guess I'll just feed one of the Hindustani nations so that they form it. Vassalaize/Annex them them, release and have hindustan as my vassal.
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You don't need a land connection, just island hop by selling them provinces you already cored.
Here's my Austria non-one-tag WC finished in 1654, and this is with a ton of play mistakes (spent the last 4 years looking for countries that I missed):
Protectorates combined with much more flexible vassal feeding means I would be not be surprised to see a more proficient player finishing a fast revoke Austria WC in ~1620. Once you get expansion CB you can mop up the ROTW in ~13-15 years.
Protectorates combined with much more flexible vassal feeding means I would be not be surprised to see a more proficient player finishing a fast revoke Austria WC in ~1620. Once you get expansion CB you can mop up the ROTW in ~13-15 years.
I think he meant a World Conquest in the Sense of conquering every province (no vassals, no protectorates). World Domination (controlling the world by using vassals and protectorates) is much easier and necessary for the achievement. So yes, the achievement should be possible "quite easily".
I rather wonder whether Three Mountains is still possible.
I'm sure it is if you abuse HRE, which is entirely possible as Ryukyu. Plus there's an exploit currently (if it's not fixed by now) that allows you to be a westernized protectorate (=no coalitions).