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How about Byzantium instead, since that's what I was aiming for in the first place?

While I am fairly flexible in terms of what country I end up playing as, Ottoman Empire is certainly not that I want to be.

you can be Byzantium, but then I'll replace it for Ottoman Empire

or is it a really hard game you seek? ;)
 

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Depends. From what I've seen of the scenario we're playing (1337, or whenever the earliest one starts, right?), Byzantium's got a good enough starting position that I won't be flattened, and (given the orthodox tech) is invariably going to be better off than the Ottoman Empire once (or if) I get into the later game. Keep in mind I'm a total newbie to EU2 mp, and to this mod, so I'm not really sure what's "best for me."

It's just that playing at the Ottoman Empire grates on my historical...sensibilities, so to speak. :rolleyes:
 

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if that's the reason you should take Ottoman

they are able to get Byzantine in the first war; immediately a second to take Constantinople and -whoopah!- the miracle happens: they get orthodox tech!

after that they get a CoT in Byzantium
there's better events for gaining almost every culture that is within your cores
 

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Alright. While I personally don't think the Ottomans' piddly two provinces are going to be that much of a difficulty, I'll take your word for it. It'll probably be best to put me back in the Brandenburg slot in that case, if you seriously think a Byzantine player would not really be able to survive.

Again, I don't know, not being very experienced (or at all with the starting scenario) in these things.
 

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No, a Byzantine player versus AI ottoman empire could definately survive and thrive. If you want Byzantine it's not a problem, i wasn't so keen on playing Ottomans myself, and i'm sure Cool-Toxic has some nice events for Byzantine as well

so do you want Byzantine Empire?
 
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I have never played this mod so you would have to confirm this with Cool-Toxic or someone who has gone through the scenario but having a non-typical power such as Byzantines played instead of the Ottoman Empire would weaken that player. I am just going out on a limb to guess that this mod has events similar to others after 1419 and in that case the Ottoman Empire would end up far more powerful then Byzantium. Although it might change the area of expansion of that player I just don't know. Does Byzantium have fantasy leaders and events that can match what the Ottoman Empire brings to a game?
 

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i want to play russia exactly:p i wanna do something tougher:p, and please tell me the exact dates so i am free of work or try taking free:D
 

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Ottomans are much easier to play in 1337 than Byzantine. ;) And they got all those events later on. Byzantium is maybe in a better position at start but OE got 40k and even the AI will do historical expansion so it's not hard.

There is an option to make Denmark united at scenario start in 1337, but then there will be a loan and low stability if we pick that. The historical option has events for Denmark to buy all provinces or if they are controled by rebels or Denmark they will be transferred for free. :) So Denmark is not weak in anyway. They'll get the COT and all. And there is an event for Denmark to support a rebel in Norway which will liberate Sweden making Denmark the most powerfull nation in Scandinavia. ;) And there are events to build up the navy for Denmark aswell as France and England. ;)