Watkabaoi iii

[martmol]

Ok give me Sweden - do we play 19-23 CET? Stop all that GMT and BST shit, this is an european game to use the Central European Time please.

19-23 cet yes time of this posting in CET is 15:36

I'll be home all night to test connection. Who's hosting?

me or you. me thins

 

[Therion]

Martin, put a download link in first post.

And stats too.

Btw, I'm seeing in the rules that culture claiming will be allowed. I thought you told me there won't be any.

 

[Aladar]

19-23 cet yes time of this posting in CET is 15:36

That it was.

me or you. me thins

Either is good for me.

 

[martmol]

Martin, put a download link in first post.

And stats too.

Btw, I'm seeing in the rules that culture claiming will be allowed. I thought you told me there won't be any.

my bad will change

 

[unmerged(137345)]

Thanks Martmol for adding me... in extra big font. Awesome.

Have any files changed since we ran our test game last week?

 

[unmerged(137345)]

take portugal

I shall murder you.

I'm Portugal. You leave me in peace and I won't get Aragon and I to teach you a harsh lesson!

 

[Aladar]

OK, noticed a couple of things already.

Things to do:
- Put SWE in alliance with NOR.
- Increase French starting army and treasury.
- Increase BB and HOL's treasury.
- BB +2 land, FRA +1 land
- Make inflation events for all

Was SWE/NOR in an alliance in 1337?

You should rather lower some of the large armies of some nations, than give France more. Hell then we should all have more.

Why the +land for FRA/BB?

What do you mean by inflation events for all? Spain has inflation event, i fail to see why everyone else should.

 

[unmerged(49695)]

Ok give me Sweden - do we play 19-23 CET? Stop all that GMT and BST shit, this is an european game to use the Central European Time please.

I'll be home all night to test connection. Who's hosting?

i guess yo uare now?

 

[unmerged(49695)]

I shall murder you.

I'm Portugal. You leave me in peace and I won't get Aragon and I to teach you a harsh lesson!

is that a challenge?

 

[martmol]

Was SWE/NOR in an alliance in 1337?

You should rather lower some of the large armies of some nations, than give France more. Hell then we should all have more.

Why the +land for FRA/BB?

What do you mean by inflation events for all? Spain has inflation event, i fail to see why everyone else should.

we can do it diffrently. like x gold income will give you x inflation at year x:wacko:

 

[Therion]

Was SWE/NOR in an alliance in 1337?

You should rather lower some of the large armies of some nations, than give France more. Hell then we should all have more.

Why the +land for FRA/BB?

What do you mean by inflation events for all? Spain has inflation event, i fail to see why everyone else should.

SWE and NOR had the same monarch. SWE didn't even exist in the original WATKABAOI and as it is now, it is very easy at the start. In fact, I was considering splitting Scandinavian cultures.

BB's rivals POL and HAB have 8 land. Alternatively we can lock landsliders.

Gold inflation evens for all. If any other nation than SPA annexes Mexico or Peru, there is no reason he shouldn't get the inflation events.

 

[Mats_SX]

Alternatively we can lock landsliders.

This.

 

[martmol]

This.

it will be, trust me padawan

 

[Aladar]

SWE and NOR had the same monarch. SWE didn't even exist in the original WATKABAOI and as it is now, it is very easy at the start. In fact, I was considering splitting Scandinavian cultures.

BB's rivals POL and HAB have 8 land. Alternatively we can lock landsliders.

Gold inflation evens for all. If any other nation than SPA annexes Mexico or Peru, there is no reason he shouldn't get the inflation events.

Why not split german cultures them, it's 50+ in europe alone.

We've lately used a formula for goldinflation instead of event, since all gold not only the mexican should give inflation.

I believe it was something like each 100 goldincome in stats gave +0,50% inflation or something like that. That'll give all nation that have goldincome the inflation in e.i. 1575 and 1650.

And if you read on wikipidea, i recon you should rather place Norway as a swedish vassel in 1337.

Magnus IV Eriksson of Sweden, also Magnus VII of Norway was king of Sweden (spring 1316 – 1 December 1374), Norway, and Terra Scania, and was the son of Duke Erik Magnusson of Sweden and Ingeborg, a daughter of Haakon V of Norway. He has also vindictively been called Magnus Smek (English equivalent: Magnus the Caresser').

Referring to Magnus Eriksson as Magnus II is inaccurate. The Swedish Royal Court officially lists three Swedish kings before him by the name.

Magnus was elected king of Sweden on 8 July 1319, and acclaimed as hereditary king of Norway at the thing of Haugathing in Tønsberg in August the same year. Under the Regencies of his Grandmother Queen Helvig and his Mother Duchess Ingeborg the countries were ruled by Knut Jonsson and Erling Vidkunsson.

Magnus was declared to have come of age at 15 in 1331. This caused resistance in Norway, where a statute from 1302 made clear that kings came of age at the age of 20, and a rising by Erling Vidkunsson and other Norwegian nobles ensued. In 1333, the rebels submitted to king Magnus.

In 1332 the king of Denmark, Christopher II, died as a "king without a country" after he and his older brother and predecessor had pawned Denmark piece by piece. King Magnus took advantage of his neighbour's distress, redeeming the pawn for the eastern Danish provinces for a huge amount of silver, and thus became ruler also of Terra Scania.

On 21 July 1336 Magnus was crowned king of both Norway and Sweden in Stockholm.

 

[Therion]

I'll repeat again. Sweden didn't even exist in the original scenario. I did the best I could by releasing Sweden without jeopardizing game balance. I'm well aware that Magnus headed the union from Stockholm so technically Norway should be Swedish or at least its vassal.

Alternatively, if you wish to follow history, I could make you control Norway at the start but you'd have to release Norway by force at some point and become a Danish vassal at another....

I believe it was something like each 100 goldincome in stats gave +0,50% inflation or something like that. That'll give all nation that have goldincome the inflation in e.i. 1575 and 1650.

Ok, I agree with this.

 

[unmerged(49695)]

not follow history at letter, but have it start with a historical setup.

Also, I'm with aladar on the Inflation thing, all gold should give inflation, not Just inca and aztec one.

 

[Therion]

While I agree that there should be gold inflation for everyone, I disagree with sleeping Spanish inflation events actually. Those events were historical crises that undermined the Spanish Empire. If we remove them, should we also remove the bad events of the Poles and the Ottomans?

Take this for example:

#State Bankruptcy#
event = {

id = 15118
trigger = {
countrysize = 25
}
random = no
country = TUR
name = "State Bankruptcy"
desc = "Following the collapse of the Vienna stock market in 1873, the Ottomans faced a financial crisis. 'The Sick Man of Europe' was by this time unable to maintain a working economy without receiving huge loans from Europe - but following the crash of the Vienna stock market, these loans stopped pouring in. The Ottoman economy, unable to withstand the pressure, collapsed and resulted in a state bankruptcy in 1875."
style = 5

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1873 }
offset = 150
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1877 }

action_a ={ #Declare State Bankruptcy#
name = "Declare State Bankruptcy"
command = { type = treasury value = -1000 }
command = { type = loansize which = 200 }
command = { type = inflation value = 15 }
command = { type = stability value = -4 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = -1 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = -1 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = -1 }
command = { type = losebuilding which = -1 value = shipyard }
command = { type = losebuilding which = -1 value = barrack }
command = { type = losebuilding which = -1 value = barrack }
command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 25000 }
command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 15000 }
command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 10000 }
command = { type = technology which = muslim }

}
}

Or Russia's Time of Troubles.

#The Time of Trouble#
event = {

id = 3414
trigger = {
domestic = {
type = centralization
value = 5
}
domestic = {
type = aristocracy
value = 4
}
domestic = {
type = serfdom
value = 5
}
}
random = no
country = RUS
name = "EVENTNAME3414"
desc = "EVENTHIST3414"
style = 3

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1603 }
offset = 359
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1605 }

action_a ={ #Support Domestic Candidates#
name = "ACTIONNAME3414A"
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 72 value = 8 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = -300 }
command = { type = relation which = SWE value = -300 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}

action_b ={ #Support Polish Candidates#
name = "ACTIONNAME3414B"
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 72 value = 10 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = SWE value = -300 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 3478 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}

action_c ={ #Support Swedish Candidates#
name = "ACTIONNAME3414C"
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 72 value = 10 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = -300 }
command = { type = relation which = SWE value = 100 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 3230 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}

}

Should we remove the bad events for everyone then....?

 

[unmerged(49695)]

im ok with that, also the french have one of those.

 

[PJL]

Okay, I've downloaded the new version of WATKBOI and the scenario, but all the countries except one are frozen. How do I unlock them?

 

[martmol]

change name in multiplayer