Wasn't AI supposed to act like they have supply range?

[IIWW]

Cause thats what is said in "AI cheats" thread. I have no idea how to explain this, besides that they do not actually care, and just abuse its power.

They travelled around Africa, quite a long journey.

 

[Seraphithan]

Yeah they don't give an eff. I had the Commonwealth invade the Philippines.

 

[zemuzil]

Yeah they don't give an eff. I had the Commonwealth invade the Philippines.

Sounds awesome

 

[Chaos_TLW]

Yeah, it is pretty ridiculous how everyone, even the player, just gives supply lines the finger. Still pretty funny to see the Potiguaras in their canoes trying to siege down New England once in a while.

 

[Wizzington]

They ignore supply range when invading, respect it when blockading and fleet hunting.

 

[Seraphithan]

Sounds awesome

If they had eaten through the Ottomans to have a port in the Red Sea or Persian Gulf sure. Setting out from the Baltic or Black Sea? Rather silly.

 

[IIWW]

Yeah, it is pretty ridiculous how everyone, even the player, just gives supply lines the finger. Still pretty funny to see the Potiguaras in their canoes trying to siege down New England once in a while.

Player don't do it as much. Not until 22 tech lvl at least, such trip would almost surely end with loosing those ships, one would be lucky if he manages to land those troops.

They ignore supply range when invading, respect it when blockading and fleet hunting.

So this is actually intended? I mean, I understand that they treat it a bit lighter when it comes to invasion, but some cap should also apply here.

 

[yerm]

They ignore supply range when invading, respect it when blockading and fleet hunting.

Why the hell do they ignore supply range when invading?

What possible benefit does Austria have for sieging down east African provinces? What possible good is going to come out of forcing a big W in whatever war this is? What possible logic would suggest that a nation should waste its resources engaging in military activity so distant it does not have supply range to it? The entire premise that a nation should even want to ship troops to fight a war so distant it has to be cheating on game rules just to pull it off is absurd and fundamentally foolhardy. The AI is stupid. Not bad, not wrong, not even cheating, it is being stupid. It is engaging in useless activity that goes completely opposite to its own self interests.

The fact that a nation doesn't have supply range to get somewhere means that nation has no strategic interest in the region either.

Please fix this crap.

 

[Wizzington]

If they didn't ignore supply range when invading Europe would never be able to send troops to East Asia, for one.

Austria probably shouldn't invade Ethiopia in this case, but not because of supply range. Mind you, a player could do what they're doing without much difficulty by just buying some fleet basing rights.

 

[yerm]

How about a compromise? Some kind of interests check for whether they have some kind of a wargoal outside supply range?

This way a nation would not break supply range logic unless it had a reason.

 

[Wizzington]

How about a compromise? Some kind of interests check for whether they have some kind of a wargoal outside supply range?

This way a nation would not break supply range logic unless it had a reason.

That sounds sensible.

 

[yerm]

That sounds sensible.

Thanks. Sorry about the rant; I blame the locked thread.

 

[blindx0r]

The way it is now can certainly lead to some weird situations:

 

[Aries666]

Why the hell do they ignore supply range when invading?

What possible benefit does Austria have for sieging down east African provinces? What possible good is going to come out of forcing a big W in whatever war this is? What possible logic would suggest that a nation should waste its resources engaging in military activity so distant it does not have supply range to it? The entire premise that a nation should even want to ship troops to fight a war so distant it has to be cheating on game rules just to pull it off is absurd and fundamentally foolhardy. The AI is stupid. Not bad, not wrong, not even cheating, it is being stupid. It is engaging in useless activity that goes completely opposite to its own self interests.

The fact that a nation doesn't have supply range to get somewhere means that nation has no strategic interest in the region either.

Please fix this crap.

In my last game me (Denmark) and ally Austria are at war with England allied to Kongo. Austria decided best to invade Kongo (logical choice). For their tireless efforts I fed them as much of Kongo as I could stuff in them. Needless to say it didn't stay Austrian for long

 

[juckil]

Why do us players even have supply range now? Since El Dorado we explore automatically and won't be able to explore anywhere we like as soon as we get explorers, so we can't exploit the fact we have no attrition.

 

[GrounchoVilla]

It reminds me of Milan sending their war boys to die in Brazil against my Incas due to their alliance with Spain.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

They ignore supply range when invading, respect it when blockading and fleet hunting.

Incorrect.

The AI will occasionally leave its fleet in place after dropping off units. I have seen German states drop troops in Mexico and leave the navy on the exact sea zone used to drop them.

That has the feel of a bug rather than something you intended, since it prevents them from getting more units and makes their fleet a sitting duck, but it absolutely does result in them blockading a province 100's to 1000's of range past their supply range for extended periods.

 

[Wizzington]

Incorrect.

The AI will occasionally leave its fleet in place after dropping off units. I have seen German states drop troops in Mexico and leave the navy on the exact sea zone used to drop them.

That has the feel of a bug rather than something you intended, since it prevents them from getting more units and makes their fleet a sitting duck, but it absolutely does result in them blockading a province 100's to 1000's of range past their supply range for extended periods.

That is indeed a bug.