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I just tried 3 games on H Ironman as florence and in every one I was no longer able to ally milan right off the bat even though I wasn't rivaled. In fact the only ally I am able to get without a -19 is lucca (with a +32).
Previously it seemed like provence and milan were sure things including a few minors as well. Also austria had me set as a rival for the first month until it realised I was not a valid rival.

Not sure if this is a bug, bad luck, or just sadism lol.
 

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View attachment 321092 I just tried 3 games on H Ironman as florence and in every one I was no longer able to ally milan right off the bat even though I wasn't rivaled. In fact the only ally I am able to get without a -19 is lucca (with a +32).
Previously it seemed like provence and milan were sure things including a few minors as well.
Wallachia has been smashed to smithereens as well as nobody wants to ally you anymore, when previously Poland and Bohemia were friendly at the start. Something's definitely been changed regarding who's friendly at the start.
 

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They did tweak some things here and there. I looked through some tags I'm familiar with and found that France now guarantees Scotland again. It also seems that Denmark can't rival the Western European nations. Have to start a few more games to check more, but it appears that rivalry rules were tweaked again in 1.24. Brittany and Burgundy are still no longer allied, though.
 

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Another subtle change is the AIs no longer wanting to be friendly. In my new Florence run I took each of Milan, Provence, Austria, and France to 100 relationship and none of them turned friendly...

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-attitude-cannot-be-friendly-anymore.1060670/
I've seen them get friendly just yesterday, but right now it seems to only happen when I'm decisively stronger than them or they're a historical friend. With the likes of Wallachia, getting anyone to be friendly is utterly impossible now. Good to see that it's a confirmed bug at least.
 

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Are you using 1.24.1? 1.24 broke relations which the .1 hotfix has corrected. Its working fine for me:

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You're playing in normal difficulty - you can still ally in spite of Milan being neutral. In hard (or very hard), you'd have -20 for hard, that you'd need to compensate with e.g. +25 for friendly, which you'd normally do by raising opinion to 100 or more. That's the part that's broken.