Warscore issue

[unmerged(11427)]

Situation from my current game (It is RC-B, but still...)

I'm playing Croatia and I'm engaged in a war against Golden Horde for at least 20 years. It looks more like a turn based game with all the pauses for battles won/lost etc. It's an epic struggle and neither side is winning.
I managed to capture 10-20 enemy provinces and those became demesne of my vassals. No problem there. My warscore is around -100 to -200 mainly due to lost battles against the Hordes. I imagine that my vassals have a similiar score.
They are at war with the Horde so they can accept peace terms. Since they have a negative warscore they give provinces to Monogols for free. In other words, they give away provinces that Mongols do not control. Sometimes it's 4-5 provinces. It creates large 'pockets' which I have to recounquer. Not easy. When I do, provinces go back to my vassals and the cycle repeats.
My guess is that this is caused by negative warscore accumulated from lost battles.

My question is:
Is this realistic? Should the warscore be tweaked or something?

 

[Duuk]

Warscore is fruity in any religious war, which is why most religious wars result in either total annihilation or a peace for a few gold.

 

[unmerged(28030)]

What needs to be done is warscore needs to be adjusted when you take heaven provinces too.

Also, it's very pleasing to see that you can now negotiate for more than 500 gold. But the peace value of the money being offered still needs to be rectified. I would suggest something like 1 warscore point for each 25 in gold.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

What needs to be done is warscore needs to be adjusted when you take heaven provinces too.

Also, it's very pleasing to see that you can now negotiate for more than 500 gold. But the peace value of the money being offered still needs to be rectified. I would suggest something like 1 warscore point for each 25 in gold.

Can you negotiate more then 500 gold in a peace ?

When I make a peace-offer I never can ask for more then 500 gold, the AI can offer or demand more then that from me.

 

[unmerged(28030)]

No, you're right, I can't ask for more than 500. But I thought I saw the slider let me ask for over 700 once. I guess it was wishful thinking which became a memory. (It goes to show how unreliable eyewitnesses are as evidence.)

 

[ADHansa]

I have seen other people in this thread having similar opinions to mine. I think the problem is how religous war work. In my mind it would need a gigantic overhaul, but i think we will have to take babysteps.

My idea is that countys never change ownership without a peacedeal, even against religious opponents. When you conquer it, you get a controllflag on it, but it is not yours until a peacedeal is made. You still gain a virtual bb-free claim on all religous opponent under a religous opponent topliege, so it is still as easy to declare war.

Not for any logical reasons (to my limited medeval knowledge), only for gameplay, to slow down county-swapping and giving the rightfull owners a fairer chance to regain their land, and letting the AI know if it is winning or losing the war.

 

[Captain Frakas]

My idea is that countys never change ownership without a peacedeal, even against religious opponents. When you conquer it, you get a controllflag on it, but it is not yours until a peacedeal is made. You still gain a virtual bb-free claim on all religous opponent under a religous opponent topliege, so it is still as easy to declare war.

Or when you take an province in peacedeal, this is added to the province value is added to the "battle warscore"...

Also, the battle warscore gained from battle should perhaps be more important.