Warscore bug

[Roxas15]

warscore goes down after winning siege and wars. warscore goes -3 everymonth because the title i want to conquer is still hold by the guy i attack.

VERSION 2.4.2

btw it already was on 86% but went down.

 

[PeterSkager]

Do you happen to have the save game? I'm not quite sure what the problem is just by looking at these screenshots. Especially since they're so low resolution that the text gets hard to read. I didn't get any increased loss of war score from not occupying the land I fought for after having won battles if that was the issue described.

 

[Roxas15]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t625enyddl76upt/Neapolis1178_11_27.ck2?dl=0

it happens every time i declare war to them after a few months.

 

[PeterSkager]

Thanks I'll look into it.

 

[MrWhite9191]

It could be the ticking war score if you don't fully hold the land you are trying to take. Like if you declare war on a king for a duchy and take some of the kings land but not the land in the duchy you are after so the enemy king gets a ticking war score.

So if he holds the land you are fighting for he get a ticking war score if you hold it you get the ticking war score.

It a bit hard to see what's happening on the pics but i think that could be it

 

[Roxas15]

well no, i try to absorb the whole roman empire title for my son in law. so all lands should give me warscore.
but i get less warscore because i still have not sieged all his lands... but its impossible xD

 

[BaZERGer]

The negative counter should disappear once you occupy enough territory for the enemy to not be considered in control anymore, though you'd probably need to concentrate on lands that are actualy inside the de jure region of the title you're in the war for.

 

[Roxas15]

well i have his capital, and more provinces in south italy. it still goes down. and does not go up after siege ends.

 

[BaZERGer]

Italy is likely still part of the empire of Italia, so they might not count towards occupying the war goal, which is occupying the Holy Roman Empire. Although perhaps it might, if control of those lands are also part of the contested territory it would make sense.

Either way i think there's like a percentage of occupation required before it stops being considered as controlled by the opposing side

 

[BaZERGer]

It definately worked, i occupied everything from Italy and up to around the height of Tirol and it went to 100%. A revolt broke out in part of Italy and Bavaria though, dunno if that affected the amount needed.

Would guess i had occupied around 40% of all their territory before it flipped to 100%, had used console commands afford hiring every available mercenary there is to do it. Your problem is the limited time you have, since the war score will continute to steadily drop till it reaches -100% and the war ends in defeat. Was able to ally France and Hungary throught betrothals and call both into the war though, but one of them was because the wife of the heir died.

 

[Roxas15]

40%? is it intented? since when is it like this?

 

[Sarlare]

I had the same problem in a multiplayer game. A friend and I declared faction war on the HRE's emperor to lower crown authority. We held a good deal of the emperor's land but the warscore kept ticking in his favor until it hit well over 100% from him "still controlling the HRE" even though we occupied all his demesne and more. Eventually just white peace'd it out as it would have been impossible to occupy enough territory in time. Also had the same problem with a singleplayer Geno game where I declared war on one of the independent Sicilian counties for their city. It only hit 100% when I fully occupied the county but was ticking in their favor when I just occupied a sole barony in said county.

 

[PeterSkager]

I think there might actually be a bug in there, that you shouldn't need to control that much land before the war score starts ticking in your favor. Though it doesn't tick with -3 a month at least as you stated in the first entry. Making an internal report on it

 

[BaZERGer]

I think there might actually be a bug in there, that you shouldn't need to control that much land before the war score starts ticking in your favor. Though it doesn't tick with -3 a month at least as you stated in the first entry. Making an internal report on it

40% was not to get the warscore to tick in his favor, it was to stop it ticking against him. It's also just a guess from viewing it, could be less in reality, both based on visual inaccuracy, or actual holding count.

 

[richvh]

It would be useful to see a de jure empire map, compared to a terrain or independent realms map showing occupation. Only occupation of de jure land will stop the warscore from ticking, and isn't Italy dejure e_italy, not e_hre?

 

[BaZERGer]

It would be useful to see a de jure empire map, compared to a terrain or independent realms map showing occupation. Only occupation of de jure land will stop the warscore from ticking, and isn't Italy dejure e_italy, not e_hre?

It is part of italia, however usualy it flashes around the borders of the wargoal area, but this time it just flashes the borders of the entire realm. Probably because it's the entire realm that changes hands when enforced.

 

[Roxas15]

It would be useful to see a de jure empire map, compared to a terrain or independent realms map showing occupation. Only occupation of de jure land will stop the warscore from ticking, and isn't Italy dejure e_italy, not e_hre?

thats on the 2nd picture, where i showed that i assault a province in the hre and still the warscore mali goes up from 72 to 77, because the emperor still holds his titles.