Warsaw LAN group

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Okay - next game is going to be held on the 7/08 at 9 am.

Current players:

Boromir, DarthMaur, Halibutt and Me (Orthank is out as it seems) - if anybody else is from Warsaw and wants to join a LAN game please post here!

I suggest we start the 1419 scenario.

Darth (or anybody else) please post the list of countries that we will play plus any house rules we should have.

Cheers

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[boromir]

Castille, England, France, Austria for starters? Or is that too heavy on France?

 

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yea france may be a little overwhelmed if it has 3 boarders with other human players..

BTW - we are playing with 1.08 and eu2_108b_19thJun2004 patch correct?

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[boromir]

yea france may be a little overwhelmed if it has 3 boarders with other human players..

BTW - we are playing with 1.08 and eu2_108b_19thJun2004 patch correct?

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Yes.

Well, Castille is a bit south (for a while), maybe Austria is not that strong, though it would be good if it had someone on its back.

 

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well I can play Austria. I am not real fond of UK or Castillia as they have the bloody navys which I hate. France is out of my league to handle.

So my choice in playing would be:

1) Austria
2) Castilia
3) UK
4) France

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[boromir]

Another proposal to consider, 1419 scen. : Castille, Austria, France and Venice.

 

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maybe some country above austria like Denmark/ Sweden instead of France - or are they too weak?

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[boromir]

maybe some country above austria like Denmark/ Sweden instead of France - or are they too weak?

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Sweden is too far away. Denmark maybe. Venice is good, because it is pretty strong then, and has the potential to develop (Italian peninsula).

 

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Sweden is too far away. Denmark maybe. Venice is good, because it is pretty strong then, and has the potential to develop (Italian peninsula).

yes well austria and venice are breathing down each others necks - so dont know if thats a great idea....

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[boromir]

yes well austria and venice are breathing down each others necks - so dont know if thats a great idea....

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why not, if France and England are breathing on each others, for example It would be nice to have action fast

 

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why not, if France and England are breathing on each others, for example It would be nice to have action fast

yes but the France / England capitals at least are more than 1 territories away from each other.

Anyways lets see what the others want.

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Well, too bad we've got only 4 players. Why Orthank doesn't want to play again?

Anyway, CAS/FRA/ENG/AUS is ok, as long as we somewhat boost Ottomans. My favourite is giving them land tech 9 in 1419, they nicely manage to expand and are dangerous to human player even as AI. French player will have hard time, more if i correctly expect Castille/Austria not to help France when played by you. Although we could put Orthank in England and me in France

With that setting we have bearable number of colonial and european players, although...

I wonder if CAS/FRA/VEN/AUS is not better setting. We could somewhat boost Venice in terms of leaders (would have to check that), but Venice is quite strong in 1419, Austria is small and weak,
The problem is that France, despite its problems, even if England is AI, even then France can literally explode and get unified much earlier than 1492. So, we should put Orthank in France in that case . Or maybe we could somewhat boost AI England.

Frankly, i would really prefer 5 players, with both ENG and VEN...

 

[boromir]

Well, too bad we've got only 4 players. Why Orthank doesn't want to play again?

Anyway, CAS/FRA/ENG/AUS is ok, as long as we somewhat boost Ottomans. My favourite is giving them land tech 9 in 1419, they nicely manage to expand and are dangerous to human player even as AI. French player will have hard time, more if i correctly expect Castille/Austria not to help France when played by you. Although we could put Orthank in England and me in France

With that setting we have bearable number of colonial and european players, although...

I wonder if CAS/FRA/VEN/AUS is not better setting. We could somewhat boost Venice in terms of leaders (would have to check that), but Venice is quite strong in 1419, Austria is small and weak,
The problem is that France, despite its problems, even if England is AI, even then France can literally explode and get unified much earlier than 1492. So, we should put Orthank in France in that case . Or maybe we could somewhat boost AI England.

Frankly, i would really prefer 5 players, with both ENG and VEN...

Orthank is very stubborn and has a long history of losing in EU2 So he wants to avoid defeat at all cost and is afraid of getting thumped by you
:rofl:

In general, I agree with your comments.
I would prefer to play a 5 player game as well, but thats the way it is ...

 

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Well, too bad we've got only 4 players. Why Orthank doesn't want to play again?

Anyway, CAS/FRA/ENG/AUS is ok, as long as we somewhat boost Ottomans. My favourite is giving them land tech 9 in 1419, they nicely manage to expand and are dangerous to human player even as AI. French player will have hard time, more if i correctly expect Castille/Austria not to help France when played by you. Although we could put Orthank in England and me in France

With that setting we have bearable number of colonial and european players, although...

I wonder if CAS/FRA/VEN/AUS is not better setting. We could somewhat boost Venice in terms of leaders (would have to check that), but Venice is quite strong in 1419, Austria is small and weak,
The problem is that France, despite its problems, even if England is AI, even then France can literally explode and get unified much earlier than 1492. So, we should put Orthank in France in that case . Or maybe we could somewhat boost AI England.

Frankly, i would really prefer 5 players, with both ENG and VEN...

I general something about not liking the game too much vs HOI etc. BUT Orthank should say why exactly - as I might get bashed again .

As to what who plays what - I dont know how experienced Halibutt is in the game - would be nice to hear from him.

Is Austria really weaker than Venice in 1419?

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Orthank is very stubborn and has a long history of losing in EU2 So he wants to avoid defeat at all cost and is afraid of getting thumped by you
:rofl:

In general, I agree with your comments.
I would prefer to play a 5 player game as well, but thats the way it is ...

Well, he can be my ally, can't he?

I general something about not liking the game too much vs HOI etc. BUT Orthank should say why exactly - as I might get bashed again .

As to what who plays what - I dont know how experienced Halibutt is in the game - would be nice to hear from him.

Is Austria really weaker than Venice in 1419?

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Hmmm. The thing is that Austria can't do squat against Venice in 1419-with latest beta, Veneto is effectively an island (you can block paths to its if you have fleet in neighbouring seazone), Austria has 5 province total, Venice 8 or something like that.

 

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Well, he can be my ally, can't he?


Hmmm. The thing is that Austria can't do squat against Venice in 1419-with latest beta, Veneto is effectively an island (you can block paths to its if you have fleet in neighbouring seazone), Austria has 5 province total, Venice 8 or something like that.

Okay so what setup do you suggest? Maybe 1492 will eb better balanced? Or maybe we should play smaller nations in 1419?

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Okay so what setup do you suggest? Maybe 1492 will eb better balanced? Or maybe we should play smaller nations in 1419?

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I would stay with CAS/FRA/AUS/VEN with good player in Austria and crappy in France

Well, we can obviously play Navarre, Lorraine, Savoy and Britanny but i guess half of humans would end annexed and rest bankrupt. 1492 is obvious four-ENG, SPA, AUS, FRA, but i personally would try 1419, which i hardly played in MP.

Oh well, maybe i'll come up with something else later.

 

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I would stay with CAS/FRA/AUS/VEN with good player in Austria and crappy in France

hmm so leaves me with a big choice of non-seafaring nations of Austria

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hmm so leaves me with a big choice of non-seafaring nations of Austria

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Well, France can choose not to be seafaring (especially if we don't have England)... it would still leave us with two big colonial players, potentially (Spain and Venice)

 

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Well, France can choose not to be seafaring (especially if we don't have England)... it would still leave us with two big colonial players, potentially (Spain and Venice)

Yes but cant Spain block Venice so that it will be the only *effective* colonial player?

Maybe we should play Russia, Austria, Denmark and Poland/Ottoman empire?

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