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Nice job killing them darn tootin Nazis!
 

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Shouldn't that AAA brigade be part of one of the garrisons, strengthening both?
 

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don't worry about the KM or the LW, they are coming :p
Good point :p

Nice update! I guess the Germans are a bit busy with the Low Countries and France at the moment so you've probably got some breathing space before they make a serious move. They might yet out-flank you by landing in Norway but for now your defence looks nice and solid. :)
Norway and my own coast are certainly the weak links. It's why I hope the Germans have managed to wreck the Kriegsmarine against the Brits (and French) so I can stop landings with my own fleet.

Wouldn't it have been more of a challenge to join the Axis instead?
Maybe, maybe not. I might have ended up in the Axis, but Germany gave up influencing me about halfway down the pyramid and the Brits picked up the slack.

Nice job killing them darn tootin Nazis!
Here's hoping the Nazi's don't play Russian and drown me in men ;)

A good first engagement, it will be interesting to see how the German AI reacts with another front to fight on.
It'll really depend on how the West goes. If they pull enough troops off to face me, the French (and Brits) might be able to make a defensible line in Belgium/North France.

Shouldn't that AAA brigade be part of one of the garrisons, strengthening both?
...how did I overlook that? Good catch, I'll make sure to fix that when I get the time to play again.
 

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The fact that you joined the war suggests me that the war will go very badly for the Germans. They will divert too much forces your way, and France might last longer than usual.
 

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The fact that you joined the war suggests me that the war will go very badly for the Germans. They will divert too much forces your way, and France might last longer than usual.
He is right! if you survive Germany is doomed!
 

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Maybe, maybe not. I might have ended up in the Axis, but Germany gave up influencing me about halfway down the pyramid and the Brits picked up the slack.
They'd have a hard time accepting a democracy into their lines anyway :p

The fact that you joined the war suggests me that the war will go very badly for the Germans. They will divert too much forces your way, and France might last longer than usual.
There's still a chance the Germans will make it to Malmö. And that is where the fun begins... :D
 

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And so it begins......
The strait should not be too difficult to hold, but I hope the other divisions and the navy are ready.
 

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@Ikarases

Hi,

you wrote "They'd have a hard time accepting a democracy into their lines anyway".

Adolf accepted Finland no sweat, even though the Finns outlawed Fascist parties in 1938 IIRC. A practical man, to be sure.

Rgds, Oldtimer
 

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@Ikarases

Hi,

you wrote "They'd have a hard time accepting a democracy into their lines anyway".

Adolf accepted Finland no sweat, even though the Finns outlawed Fascist parties in 1938 IIRC. A practical man, to be sure.

Rgds, Oldtimer
You're disregarding the context.

Finland wouldn't have allied with Germany if Soviets didn't take Karelian Isthmus (along with some more land to the north) from them two years back. Mind you Finland played it well, turned against Germany and signed peace with Soviets later on, otherwise we would have had some Finnish SSR for quite a long time!

Sweden, on the other hand, had no reason to join anyone, as they were surrounded by their Scandinavian friends and didn't have any terriorial disputes. On top of that, they've been neutral in the WWI as well ;)
 

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Sweden, on the other hand, had no reason to join anyone, as they were surrounded by their Scandinavian friends and didn't have any terriorial disputes. On top of that, they've been neutral in the WWI as well ;)
Tell that to the Dutch.
 

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You're disregarding the context.

Finland wouldn't have allied with Germany if Soviets didn't take Karelian Isthmus (along with some more land to the north) from them two years back. Mind you Finland played it well, turned against Germany and signed peace with Soviets later on, otherwise we would have had some Finnish SSR for quite a long time!

Sweden, on the other hand, had no reason to join anyone, as they were surrounded by their Scandinavian friends and didn't have any terriorial disputes. On top of that, they've been neutral in the WWI as well ;)
Hi,

you speculate abt. ifs. Finland admittedly had good reasons for revanschism, though Mannerheim was against the Continuation War IIRC.
But the fact remains, Finland is the only democratic country to ally with Adolf. Though my old professor, a Mannerheim Cross holder, told me once that German troops started crossing the Finnish border up North before the Finnish DoW on the SU and thus forced their hand.

Rgds, Oldtimer
 

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Warriors of the North said:
Chapter 5.2: Defenders of Malmö

While events in Europe were drawing the attention of the continent, that did not mean events didn't continue on the other side of the world. The Soviet Union and Japanese Empire (in addition to their various puppets) had been fighting over a disputed border between Manchuria and Mongolia. Most expected these battles to end in a return to the status quo, like every other border skirmish over the years.

However, perhaps high off their defeat of Finland, the Soviets declared a full-state of war between their nation and Japan. This was seen as a bad move on the Soviets part however...their officer corps was gutted to the point the Finns had managed to hold them off for months, and that was with a major numbers edge on the Soviet side. With their control of all of China, the Japanese had parity with the Soviets in numbers, and their troops were battle-hardened from the war in China.

However, as this was taking place on the opposite side of the world from Sweden, we return to Scandinavia.


The Germans, oddly considering their hypothetical naval superiority, were continuing to attack Malmö. This time two infantry divisions were committed to the assault. However, by this time, Sweden had managed to reinforce the defenders of the crucial city, and the Germans continued to lose more men than the Swedes. That being said, they also empathized just how many more men they had than the Swedes.


Six divisions were committed to the newest assault, while the German army still maintained its assault into Belgium, enough troops to keep the French tied up in their Maginot Line, and presumably enough troops to guard the border with the Russians. If the Germans were to use the Kriegsmarine to land forces in either Norway or further along the Swedish coast, there was likely little that could be done to stop them.

However, so long as they attacked Malmö with its heavy fortifications and brave defenders, the Germans would not break through.


Both sides suffered heavy losses, but the Swedes managed to hold the line and keep the Germans in occupied Denmark. Continued bombing raids from the Swedish Air Force (the Luftwaffe had yet to make its presence known) kept the German forces on their toes, and allowed them little time to rest. While the Air Force and Army fought, the Navy sent patrols along the German Baltic coast, looking for any sign of the enemy navy.

Only one fleet was found, moored in East Prussia. While fire from the coast force the destroyer-scout away from the coast, the crew reported sighting one old battleship, either the Schleswig-Holstein or her sister Schlesien and a handful of escorts. Every other Baltic port was empty.

Moving to the other fronts, we see the situation in Belgium and France:


In a similar situation as the Great War, lines had been drawn from the Atlantic to the Swiss border...and they were not being crossed. The Swedish intervention seemed to be drawing just enough German forces to allow the joint Belgian/British/French forces to hold off the Panzers. Still, it was unknown how long this would last, as the Allies were not making any advances either. It was a stalemate, just as the Siege of Malmö was.

It was not, however, a stalemate in Asia.


The Japanese had managed to take Vladivostok, center of Soviet Naval power in the region. While the Red Navy was a shadow of the Tsarist force, itself never a particularly strong navy, it was still a harsh blow. While the sheer size of the Soviet Union likely precluded a decisive victory by the Japanese, if the Red Army didn't start getting its act together, it would likely be too weak to fight on another front, should another war or a large rebellion take shape.



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For the record, I call it the 'Siege' of Malmö because I've had, at least, ten or so battles there. I'll say the German AI is stubborn, but I'm almost a bit depressed that they haven't tried invading Norway or something yet. I mean, I got bored enough to send my 'Czech' tankers on a drive to Berlin through an undefended part of the coast and I got within one province before the Germans showed up in force. That's just depressing.

And the other parts of their military are still MIA. Luftwaffe is nowhere to be found, and the KM is limited to the ships I mentioned in the update (I got attacked by them but forgot a screenshot).
 
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The AI is stupid in other ways, see Germany has at least 3 Pz Divisions on the Maginot line, enough to tilt the balance in Belgium.
 

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The AI can be very disappointing sometimes. If the Germans manage to win in France they might still make a move against Norway although I fear they could get too obsessed with crossing at Malmö. What should change is the Luftwaffe being free to join the offensive and that could make things uncomfortable for you. I had a recent experience in TFH where the AI persisted in attacking across a strait at one end of a lengthy land front and took horrific casualties. Maybe it saw a lightly defended plains province and failed to account for the strait? Anyway, the only reason the AI managed to force that crossing was because it had almost total command of the skies and subjected my defenders to a relentless bombing campaign.
 

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Hi,

if the AI acted as a remotely competent RL commander this game would be over already. Airborne assault and multiple landings, voilà... Multiple landings would actually suffice, come to think of it.
Let`s be thankful to the AI(i e P-dox) that this playthrough continues.

Rgds, Oldtimer
 

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The war between the USSR and Japan makes for some intriguing possibilities. The Soviets will undoubtedly have to send significant forces there, which will reduce their strength in the west. When Germany comes knocking, they might not be strong enough to stop them. On the other hand, that depends on how much of the Wehrmacht insists on throwing itself at Malmo. I've seen the German AI commit a depressingly large army to Scandinavia before. In excess of 150,000 troops, including many armored divisions, all 'supplied' (and I use that word generously) by Narvik. The Germans are strong but the AI has no concept of overkill, only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload'.

Incidentally, do you have any ambitions of uniting Scandinavia under Sweden, assuming you get a good opportunity?
 

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I like a fight in the East, keeps the Soviets busy
 

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Hope you hold Malmo, though the one thing that can crash the historical plausibility of the AAR is the German AI's obsession with one route straits-crossing.