• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

Marshall Thomas

Lt. General
10 Badges
Jun 20, 2005
1.603
17
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
In my current Papal States game, I've waited for my AE to go down -but I've been warned by France and have to wait eight years for the warning to expire. When I go to declare my excommunication war against Milan, I see that I've "been warned by France and France may intervene."

Is there anything I can do discourage France from intervening? Is there any way I can tell whether or not France will in fact intervene? or at least how likely this may be?

Thanks in advance
 

Viperswhip

Field Marshal
101 Badges
Feb 8, 2009
3.152
610
  • Deus Vult
  • Heir to the Throne
  • King Arthur II
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • The Kings Crusade
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Rome Gold
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • 500k Club
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Surviving Mars
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • BATTLETECH - Backer
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Victoria 2
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
In my current Papal States game, I've waited for my AE to go down -but I've been warned by France and have to wait eight years for the warning to expire. When I go to declare my excommunication war against Milan, I see that I've "been warned by France and France may intervene."

Is there anything I can do discourage France from intervening? Is there any way I can tell whether or not France will in fact intervene? or at least how likely this may be?

Thanks in advance

What's France's relationship with you? You could also get around the same way regencies do and ally with enemies of Milan and warn Milan yourself and so on.
 

Sairoh

Captain
61 Badges
Jun 28, 2013
424
0
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Sengoku
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • BATTLETECH
  • Surviving Mars
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • King Arthur II
  • Magicka
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Victoria 2
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Stellaris
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
Nations tend not to enforce their warning when they're at war. France is at war often so it shouldn't take long. Even if they join in the war, they won't send much because they're still busy elsewhere.
 

Marshall Thomas

Lt. General
10 Badges
Jun 20, 2005
1.603
17
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
What's France's relationship with you? You could also get around the same way regencies do and ally with enemies of Milan and warn Milan yourself and so on.
I believe our number relations is alright, but they are hostile all the same. What causes some countries to have decent number relations (like maybe +25) with you, yet still have a hostile attitude?

also: how would allying with the enemies of Milan help in this situation? Thanks in advance
 

Viperswhip

Field Marshal
101 Badges
Feb 8, 2009
3.152
610
  • Deus Vult
  • Heir to the Throne
  • King Arthur II
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • The Kings Crusade
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Rome Gold
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • 500k Club
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Surviving Mars
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • BATTLETECH - Backer
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Victoria 2
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
Nations tend not to enforce their warning when they're at war. France is at war often so it shouldn't take long. Even if they join in the war, they won't send much because they're still busy elsewhere.

It depends how blobby they are. In my game around 1514 or so France has 78000 troops, is allied with Hungary and Venice (both of who would probably join a war against the papal states unless you've been doing a lot of diplomacy). The best way will always be join a war against Milan or get them to declare on you. France actually gets a conquer Milan mission at some point, so watch out for that.
 

Grubnessul

Your Friendly Dictator Next Door
76 Badges
Dec 17, 2006
6.000
559
  • Magicka 2 - Signup Campaign
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Magicka: Wizard Wars Founder Wizard
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Mount & Blade: With Fire and Sword
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Deus Vult
  • Diplomacy
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Magicka
  • Majesty 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
Just wait the 8 years, I'd say. Or suck up to France.
 

Beagá

Banned
74 Badges
May 27, 2007
13.783
4.044
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • 500k Club
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Crusader Kings Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • BATTLETECH
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • For The Glory
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria 2
Keep relations up and if you DOW when they are very busy and exhausted they will probably let go. In case they don´t, well, that´s why you have stuff to do during Peace and should get decent alliances.