War

[grumphie]

Steamrolling weak AI is fun? Lol k.

an AI that compeltly foiled wiz's pans on invadign the south and really slowed his advance up north. it's that wiz build up a fairly massive fleet and the empires he attacked were somewhat unstable to begin with, but the AI may very well have just won the war if he had less forces.

 

[Faycron]

Out of curiosity...what is your definition of "steamroll"?

Enemy AI didnt win a single big pitched battle in space, enemy AI never managed to occupy a planet, enemy AI never was a challenge in that war, despite the fact, that it was a huge alliance.

 

[Lexx2503]

As my fanatic pacifist penguins put it:

I'm glad someone put this in or I would have had to.

And to Op I disagree. It's fun and reminiscent of CK2/EU4. If I found them repetitive I wouldn't have 2000+ hours between them.

 

[lemmox]

Enemy AI didnt win a single big pitched battle in space, enemy AI never managed to occupy a planet, enemy AI never was a challenge in that war, despite the fact, that it was a huge alliance.

It managed to almost completely wipe out his fleet, utterly repulsed his initial attack, and launched several very problematic raids into Blorg territory.

It was a large alliance, spread over a significant area and dealing with a two front invasion and increasing internal unrest.

It took 10 years, chewed up most of the Blorg fleet and a pile of resources to get them to the point of being willing to consider surrendering a handful of planets.

That's the shittiest steamroll I've ever seen.

 

[Faycron]

It managed to almost completely wipe out his fleet, utterly repulsed his initial attack, and launched several very problematic raids into Blorg territory.

It was a large alliance, spread over a significant area and dealing with a two front invasion and increasing internal unrest.

It took 10 years, chewed up most of the Blorg fleet and a pile of resources to get them to the point of being willing to consider surrendering a handful of planets.

That's the shittiest steamroll I've ever seen.

What is the time mark of the "almost completely wipe out his fleet"? Because I fail to notice anything similiar.

 

[Wizzington]

Enemy AI didnt win a single big pitched battle in space, enemy AI never managed to occupy a planet, enemy AI never was a challenge in that war, despite the fact, that it was a huge alliance.

I didn't think we had a second Stellaris stream but you obviously weren't watching the one I was playing in. Who's my rival streamer? Is it Mercedes?!?

 

[lemmox]

What is the time mark of the "almost completely wipe out his fleet"? Because I fail to notice anything similiar.

I'm on mobile so I can't scrub through the video, but do you not remember all those times early in the war when he kept having to attempt emergency FTL jumps because his fleet was completely overwhelmed?

They lost a huge chunk of their fleet and had to withdraw to their territory to complete rebuild their fleet with smaller ships, specced out to specifically counter the tactics the AI was using.

If you weren't paying enough attention to notice about half an hour of significant events, you'll have to excuse me for thinking you don't have the most informed opinion on what happened during the stream.

 

[moglus]

Well they did put it in space, so that already necessitates some changes from previous games.

Systems aren't static blocks like provinces in EU, they are closer to mini-maps of their own in which units can freely move in 2 dimensions. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a performance or hardware reason not to make it a analogue zoom in.

In any case, if you literally can't spare a fraction of a second to hit one button, you need to play on a slower speed.

1. First of all, the function that that button serves is a clear indication that it could be changed relatively easily, just make the trigger for that function a specific zoom level instead of a button press.

2. Secondly, it's not that it's time consume to do once, it's that it's going to get real fucking old real fucking fast, as a coder i know that the number one most frequent complaint i get about UI, is things like tooltips, it isn't that it's time consuming to hover over a UI element, but that people despise having to hover over it every single time they want to see that information.

 

[Faycron]

I didn't think we had a second Stellaris stream but you obviously weren't watching the one I was playing in. Who's my rival streamer? Is it Mercedes?!?

Trying to warp the reality by pretending you didnt win easily while playing suboptimally and blaming the "hotcode" every time proves only one thing, Wiz: you would've made an extremely successfull political career, you are a master demagogue.

 

[yafeshan]

The war was very tactical. If you watched closely you could see several times blorg lost space battle and had to retreat having the same power level initially. There was some balance between ships and their layout and blorgs had incorrect configuration to fight. They won initial battles just with blob and had difficulties later. Wiz had to redesign his fleet to counter attack. He spend one fourth of reserve minerals in the process. Also enemy took back colonies and even attacked blorg space.

We alsosaw how effective wormholes can be

 

[Faycron]

The war was very tactical. If you watched closely you could see several times blorg lost space battle and had to retreat having the same power level initially. There was some balance between ships and their layout and blorgs had incorrect configuration to fight. They won initial battles just with blob and had difficulties later. Wiz had to redesign his fleet to counter attack. He spend one fourth of reserve minerals in the process. Also enemy took back colonies and even attacked blorg space.

We alsosaw how effective wormholes can be

1. It's normal to stay at low minerals, if you dont it means you either built everything you could or arent playing effectively.

2. Wormholes are overpowered.

 

[moglus]

Trying to warp the reality by pretending you didnt win easily while playing suboptimally and blaming the "hotcode" every time proves only one thing, Wiz: you would've made an extremely successfull political career, you are a master demagogue.

Is that in your opinion based on your "5 years of experience as senior executive." @Faycron ? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Miyokari]

Trying to warp the reality by pretending you didnt win easily while playing suboptimally and blaming the "hotcode" every time proves only one thing, Wiz: you would've made an extremely successfull political career, you are a master demagogue.

I am not sure if we watched the same stream. One of Wiz fleets got actually wiped while he panically tried to retreat it and couldn't do that, later he had to rebuild entire fleet and launch an attack to the south again, otherwise he was risking losing the war.

 

[TheBeautifulVoid2]

Trying to warp the reality by pretending you didnt win easily while playing suboptimally and blaming the "hotcode" every time proves only one thing, Wiz: you would've made an extremely successfull political career, you are a master demagogue.

Dude, drop it.

 

[yafeshan]

2. Wormholes are overpowered.

Wix decimated one enemy fleet while they were trying to enter wormhole. Waiting for jump is great disadvatage

 

[lemmox]

1. It's normal to stay at low minerals, if you dont it means you either built everything you could or arent playing effectively

That's energy you dolt. You should keep large reserves of minerals in case what happens to Wiz happens to you and you need to build a completely new fleet right the hell now.

 

[Murmeldjuret]

I didn't think we had a second Stellaris stream but you obviously weren't watching the one I was playing in. Who's my rival streamer? Is it Mercedes?!?

You have to blame yourself for researching sentience. It is only a question of time until the servers start to stream on their own.

 

[Yenzen]

1. It's normal to stay at low minerals, if you dont it means you either built everything you could or arent playing effectively.

2. Wormholes are overpowered.

He ended up throwing most of it into new ships to reinforce his navy.

 

[Wizzington]

Trying to warp the reality by pretending you didnt win easily while playing suboptimally and blaming the "hotcode" every time proves only one thing, Wiz: you would've made an extremely successfull political career, you are a master demagogue.

I burned 30000 minerals to get 3 planets. For perspective, that's about 80 colony ships I could've sent. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and stating your nonsense authoratively just makes it all the more ridiculous.

 

[Faycron]

That's energy you dolt. You should keep large reserves of minerals in case what happens to Wiz happens to you and you need to build a completely new fleet right the hell now.

No, energy is upkeep and must be kept at medium levels. Minerals must be used to build. Having large reserves means you arent building. If Wiz played slower withotu rushing he wouldnt have such reserves and wouldve had a better economy and warfleet