If you raise war taxes in September and go to peace in December do the benifits of war taxes end or will you still get them in Jan Feb?
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You'll still get them in January and February, and in addition you'll get 50% higher annual taxes as well.
Originally posted by Grenadier
No it's 150%! Isn't it?!
I might be wrong, but I've always thought that war taxes increase taxes with 50%.
You are wrong. 150% it is. Early on the rollover text stated 50%, but it was wrong and has been corrected since.
Useful for all nations, try taking out wartaxes when playing Buddhist (who get that evil -19% modifier to tax income)
At stab <=1 and with overseas possessions a province can go from 11% to 161% in tax income - including census taxes. That's some increase!
Yes, 150% and if you really want to have use of tax raise it in august and all reaserch put toward stability so that get aditional 25%from stability
Althought someone said that raising war taxes is exploit, but I cant see how minors can survive without war taxes
Althought someone said that raising war taxes is exploit, but I cant see how minors can survive without war taxes
so you end up with 250% of you normal as the total? Though you use some for stability.
I have tried using war taxes now a few times and let me say thanks for the advice. I am now a convert! I have see some amazing results from raising them in august. I now stay at war until then just to get an extra shot at that year end bonus.
I did notice that I got a few random revolts as well though. They were not due to the sability drop either.
I did notice that I got a few random revolts as well though. They were not due to the sability drop either.
I think what happens is that the game engine does and extra check for revolts in your provinces than the normal one it does at the beginning of each month. I have observed that these war tax revolts occur only in provinces that have revolt risk. This includes provinces that would now have revolt risk due to lowered stability and whatnot.
Normally, I see this happen in provinces with nationalism, but trust me; it gets worse if you have a revolt risk in all your provinces.
You are right, Truskar, but if you will note that the game checks for revolts on the beginning of every month. Now, raise war taxes on the 15th several times. You will note that sometimes revolts break out as a result in provinces that have revolt risk, despite it not being the first of the month.
Of course, it is possible that those problems that have revolt risk are now more numerous because of the added revolt risk from loss of stability and war taxes themselves.
Of course, it is possible that those problems that have revolt risk are now more numerous because of the added revolt risk from loss of stability and war taxes themselves.
SM, you are of course correct all the revolts were in provences that had nationalism. The +1 RR for war taxes and the loss of stability were not a factor. That clears that up. I wondered why sometimes I got the revolts and sometimes not, The extra check of ones already subject to Revolt makes perfect sense.
I can't believe I have never noticed that the increase is 100% I have just been using them as Nippon during a war with Manchu and the difference in income is staggering!
It's almost worth staying at war just for the money (I've colonised half the spice islands with the extra income).
I would like to say two things though:-
1) You have to make sure you can recover the stab hit quickly without using the stab slider (certainly within six months).
2) You will need a big army at home to deal with the revolts, but as Nippon I'm used to that!!!
It's almost worth staying at war just for the money (I've colonised half the spice islands with the extra income).
I would like to say two things though:-
1) You have to make sure you can recover the stab hit quickly without using the stab slider (certainly within six months).
2) You will need a big army at home to deal with the revolts, but as Nippon I'm used to that!!!
War Tax gaming...
Extending a war to get one more shot at war taxes is pure gamesmanship, yah..on the other hand... Frederick the Great made a fortune during the Seven Years War by diddling the purity
of his coinage issue. For myself, I use it often when playing a small country, rarely as a large one (takes too long to recover the stab hit)
Extending a war to get one more shot at war taxes is pure gamesmanship, yah..on the other hand... Frederick the Great made a fortune during the Seven Years War by diddling the purity
of his coinage issue. For myself, I use it often when playing a small country, rarely as a large one (takes too long to recover the stab hit)
I am a VERY large Empire and I can recover stability in 2 months. Stability is around 1800 a level. Monthly income around 1150. of which about 150 goes into troop support. War taxes gets me almost 5000 on Jan 1 that equals another 2 manufactoring plants. So even if I had to plow all my money into stability for 6 months it would still be worth it.
The key to keeping your stability down is to pick which colonies you will allow to become cities, and converting provences taken in war.
The key to keeping your stability down is to pick which colonies you will allow to become cities, and converting provences taken in war.
Even with quick stab recovery, the price of war taxes can be too great to consider for a large and warlike nation. As a huge Byzantium racked with BB wars, it takes me only 2 months to recover the stab, but the temporary revolt risk and stab induced revolt risk are not welcome in times of war (I have plenty of rebellions as it is
). Additionally, for the months in which you have low stab, the morale of your army will drop more rapidly in battle (at least according to my experience). I suppose war taxes can be lucrative in many situations, but there certainly are exceptions.