Should you be able in hoi 4 to seize military assets from your enemies when they surrendered
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War repreations
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IMO:
Equipment*, which is within territory of country, as well as content of "equipment reserve", should be captured by enemy at the moment of capitulation, with adjustment for sabotage etc. by their troops (loss of: 50% for land equipment, 75% for aircraft, 100% for ships)
Equipment*, which is within territory of allied country, should be taken by that allied country at the moment of capitulation, with adjustment for sabotage etc. (loss of: 10% for land equipment, 25% for aircraft, 50% for ships)
Same could in principle be applied to surrounded/overrun units.
* equipment cantained in ground units + ships and planes
Equipment*, which is within territory of country, as well as content of "equipment reserve", should be captured by enemy at the moment of capitulation, with adjustment for sabotage etc. by their troops (loss of: 50% for land equipment, 75% for aircraft, 100% for ships)
Equipment*, which is within territory of allied country, should be taken by that allied country at the moment of capitulation, with adjustment for sabotage etc. (loss of: 10% for land equipment, 25% for aircraft, 50% for ships)
Same could in principle be applied to surrounded/overrun units.
* equipment cantained in ground units + ships and planes
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Maybe instead of equipment, a victorious nation could take factories. The Soviets did that to Hungary, Poland, and Germany after the war under the facade of "reperations".
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It doesn't really matter much. This is a World War Two game, not a Cold War /war aftermath game 
Many people on the forums speak English as a second language no need to be rude.
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You mean like EU4 war reparations, where a certain amount of the target's monthly income is given to another nation?
including me, I was joking but point is it was almost imposible to decipher what he meant.
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Beside the misplaced "in hoi4" and the missing question mark, there's nothing wrong with it. The first only breaks the flow of reading without causing ambiguity and the second is addressed by the presence of "should you" instead of "you should".
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I don't mind the idea of war reparations (they happened, after all, primarily with ships of the defeated navies being given to nations from the Allies and the USSR), but it was never all of them, and in most of the cases of attempted forced seizure of vessels, they were scuttled (Netherlands and Toulon being the best examples I can think of). There were much higher rates of success seizing allied ships in allied ports, both the Allies in regard to the French fleet and the Germans in regard to Italian ships in the parts of Italy they were effectively occupying at the time of Italy's surrender. Given that, I'd probably have the ship percentage for seizure far lower, unless they're given in a peace deal (and even then, ships given in peace deals have on occasions been scrapped en-mass). The allied seizure percentage, on the other hand, should be pretty high for all three types of equipment, if we're using the period covered by the game as a guide, as far as I can see (if I've missed something, by all means point it out
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If you look at % I suggested, enemy wouldnt capture 50% ground weapons, 25% aircraft and no ships and allies would capture 90% of ground weapons, 75% aircraft and 50% ships.I don't mind the idea of war reparations (they happened, after all, primarily with ships of the defeated navies being given to nations from the Allies and the USSR), but it was never all of them, and in most of the cases of attempted forced seizure of vessels, they were scuttled (Netherlands and Toulon being the best examples I can think of). There were much higher rates of success seizing allied ships in allied ports, both the Allies in regard to the French fleet and the Germans in regard to Italian ships in the parts of Italy they were effectively occupying at the time of Italy's surrender. Given that, I'd probably have the ship percentage for seizure far lower, unless they're given in a peace deal (and even then, ships given in peace deals have on occasions been scrapped en-mass). The allied seizure percentage, on the other hand, should be pretty high for all three types of equipment, if we're using the period covered by the game as a guide, as far as I can see (if I've missed something, by all means point it out
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Sorry, right you are, brain was on the fritz yesterday and mis-read your post, apologies, we're on the same page
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True!
The percentages sound quite cool for me. But i can't remember any newer military conflict, where this could habe taken place...
no problemSorry, right you are, brain was on the fritz yesterday and mis-read your post, apologies, we're on the same page
Hotchkiss was a French tank that the German took over, IRL. You should be able to conquer the research, factories and assets of the country you took, but it should be at some costs. Example would be if you annex someone that is another ideology than you, that would give you a lot of partisans, and could potentially fuck up your newly taken industry.
An example, if it helps, is the French ships under construction when Germany took over. I think from what I read, almost none (or none outright) were ever finished, in no small part because they were repeatedly sabotaged.
I think, yes. We should be able to capture some cannons and a few tanks at least.
It will also make playing China a bit more manageable, as you can use captured Japanese tanks to equip your own armour division. Cannons were captured and used all around the world in WW2, particularly in Pacific islands where artillery was not that easy to transport and set up.