War of the Nations, a World War I mod

[Kaiser Franz]

by basic events i mean the following...

events for:
Bringing the Ottoman Empire into the war
Bringing Portugal and Japan into the war
The Zimmermann Telegraph and USA getting into ww1 (more in depth etc)
Hejaz Revolts (Lawrence of Arabia etc)
Russian Revolution and Treaty of Brest-Litvosk
Re-evaluated and in depth surrender treaties and borders etc, make it more realistic and less messy
Bringing Italy into the war (Treaty of London)
Minor states joining the war (Greece, Bulgaria, the South American ones etc)
The Revolts in Central Asia against the Russian empire (Khiva and Bukhara)
Russian Civil war (of course the revolution would have to happen etc etc)

These would give some depth and some cool stuff to do, also we could give some lands in the North of Mexico to revolters to simulate the revolution against Huerta etc

 

[unmerged(35351)]

All those events have to be done, I agree. However to determine certain triggers will be more difficult. And of course the alternative route has to be done aswell. At least partially, a german victory shouldn't be excluded.

IIRC there was also some unrest in Ireland, and Germany supporting Irish independence by sending supplies.

 

[unmerged(21146)]

I just tried your scenario, and seems an excelent improvement till the vanilla WW1. Well, the Central powers are too wealthy but there are no more flash victories in 1916. All the nations enter at the war in the moment they have to, but, the alliance sistem didn't work. The great war is coverted to a multiple little wars. Bulgaria against UK, and another Bulgaria against Romania, there are some weird peaces as a result. Also, some minor powers, like Turkey or Serbia seems to accept peace to fast. Well, and I noticed the lack of events like the socialist revolution in Russia, a peace event for the winners, an option for Italy to decide wich alliance want to join (after a demand to the two). So....very nice mod, congratulations

 

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I just tried your scenario, and seems an excelent improvement till the vanilla WW1. Well, the Central powers are too wealthy but there are no more flash victories in 1916. All the nations enter at the war in the moment they have to, but, the alliance sistem didn't work. The great war is coverted to a multiple little wars. Bulgaria against UK, and another Bulgaria against Romania, there are some weird peaces as a result. Also, some minor powers, like Turkey or Serbia seems to accept peace to fast. Well, and I noticed the lack of events like the socialist revolution in Russia, a peace event for the winners, an option for Italy to decide wich alliance want to join (after a demand to the two). So....very nice mod, congratulations

Well, i excluded the major events for this version, because they need a complete overhaul. It's basicly more to let you see how the AI works and to get feedback. Turkey? I've actually never seen them peace out before, maybe they got entirely overrun by Russians and the British? Serbia, well, they still need some mobilization events. Did Bulgaria enter the war by event or by itself? I've seen it happen that certain countries like OE, Italy and Bulgaria tend to join before they are supposed to join.
And I'm glad to hear you like it. I hope that soon I can release the next version with events to end the war.

 

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Well, i excluded the major events for this version, because they need a complete overhaul. It's basicly more to let you see how the AI works and to get feedback. Turkey? I've actually never seen them peace out before, maybe they got entirely overrun by Russians and the British? Serbia, well, they still need some mobilization events. Did Bulgaria enter the war by event or by itself? I've seen it happen that certain countries like OE, Italy and Bulgaria tend to join before they are supposed to join.
And I'm glad to hear you like it. I hope that soon I can release the next version with events to end the war.

Bulgaria by event. Italy, i didn't notice because i don't have the emergent message option in that moment. The Otomans and Bulgars sign a white peace, so cannot be a total defeat. Well, the British was occuping 7 or 8 provinces in Liban and Irak, but no more.

 

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IIRC there was also some unrest in Ireland, and Germany supporting Irish independence by sending supplies.

i think you might be referring to the easter rising which, over the space of 6 years, led to the independance of the republic of ireland...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland/History#Home_Rule.2C_Easter_1916_and_the_War_of_Independence


Ive downloaded your mod, and hope to be able to spend some time during the week checking it out... ill see if i can manage to get some feedback for you

 

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Bulgaria by event. Italy, i didn't notice because i don't have the emergent message option in that moment. The Otomans and Bulgars sign a white peace, so cannot be a total defeat. Well, the British was occuping 7 or 8 provinces in Liban and Irak, but no more.

Weird, I'll look in to that. However something did go wrong, cause Bulgaria and the Ottomans should be on the same side. Why the Ottomans peaced out is weird, normally they shouldn't. Maybe it was one of those games where things go a bit differently

 

[Darks63]

maybe the OE went allied

 

[unmerged(21146)]

Weird, I'll look in to that. However something did go wrong, cause Bulgaria and the Ottomans should be on the same side. Why the Ottomans peaced out is weird, normally they shouldn't. Maybe it was one of those games where things go a bit differently

Sorry I don't explain me correctly. Bulgaria and OE sign a White peace with the entente. Both are allied with the Central empires

 

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I've just looked in the AI files, and both Bulgaria and the Ottomans have high ferocity. But that doesn't exclude the chance they actually make peace. Maybe war exhaustion was really high.

On another note, I'm reworking the alliance events now so a player, and the AI actually have a choice. However it still needs work and lots of testing.

 

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At the moment I'm working on some peace treaty events. The basic version of the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk is already done, however this leads to Germany sending it's forces to the west front. Sooner or later France crumbles. Maybe there should be some event to lower some statistics for the German forces? Not too much, just enough so France can push the Germans back.

Which brings me to the next problem, what should be the triggers for the Treaty of Versailles? Maybe France should control all it's own provinces and Belgium 1 or 2 of it's own? Suggestions?

 

[unmerged(19063)]

Wasn't it likely that France would crumble when Germany did move its Eastern Front forces to the west?

 

[unmerged(35351)]

Wasn't it likely that France would crumble when Germany did move its Eastern Front forces to the west?

Yes, however Germany didn't have the resources to finish the war. And France IRL did get reinforcements from Britain and the US, in the game it will receive far less if any at all.

 

[Darks63]

have u fixed the prob where the uk doesn't send the BEF to france and instead lands constantly at hamburg

 

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There is an armed force of Britain in France at the start. However British invasions are now more planned towards towards the Ottomans, so there are less British invasion in North Germany. I found out that they only land in Belgium or France is when the Germans occupy a peace of land bordering the Channel. It still needs some work, but you won't see ( or at least not as much ) 100,000 british soldiers sitting in Hamburg.

 

[Darks63]

some observations from playing
Cons:
mon is not at war with the Central powers
serbia is not part of the allies
some of the leader files seem to be bugged
when as A-H i totally occupys serbia there is no surrender event where i either annex them or puppet them.

Pros:
no major british seaborne invasions of germany
russia doesnt steamroll everyone
germany holds its own pretty well on both fronts
belguim doesn't chicken out early

also prezmel should probably be a level 5 fort the austrians had a nice size fortress there

 

[unmerged(35351)]

some observations from playing
Cons:
mon is not at war with the Central powers
serbia is not part of the allies
some of the leader files seem to be bugged
when as A-H i totally occupys serbia there is no surrender event where i either annex them or puppet them.

Montenegro should be at war, however they will be annexed in a few days I think. But I think I'll include them aswell.
Serbia shouldn't be part of the allies, because 1) Russia had only garantueed their independence no full alliance. 2) It will cause a Austria-Hungary player to walsh Serbia in make peace. 2 can be avoided if Serbia is not the Alliance leader.
Leader files bugged? I didn't include any leader files (yet)
Serbia will get a surrender event, I'm currently working on one.

Pros:
no major british seaborne invasions of germany
russia doesnt steamroll everyone
germany holds its own pretty well on both fronts
belguim doesn't chicken out early

also prezmel should probably be a level 5 fort the austrians had a nice size fortress there

Actually I still think Russia is a bit too weak, especially if you consider they need some revolution events. But I'll let people judge that with the next release ( will include some peace treaty events )

The disadvantage with fortress is that the work two ways, as soon as the russians capture it, it will work for them ( and I believe it's mountains terrain ) very well. And if artillery is involved the fort will dissapear in a few days time.

 

[Darks63]

i think i can prevent any diplomatic non-event peaces if u want me to write an event

i could also write a serbian and romanian surrender event

one other thing the OE doesn't defend their capital and as a result they lose it to canada or the aussies.

 

[unmerged(35351)]

A romanian peace treaty is already there, the Treaty of Bucharest. As historical there was a peace treaty for Romania. So if you can do a Serbian surrender event that would be great. Keep in mind that there have to be two different versions. One if Bulgaria has not joined the war, and one for when they have. If Bulgaria has joined the war and Serbia peaces out Serbia should surrender provinces Nis (941), Prisitina (937) and Skopje (918) to them, as Germany promised Bulgaria a Greater Bulgaria if they entered the war

I fixed the problem with the Ottoman AI. But aussies are not so uncommon, since they are supposed to land in the province bordering it. Japanese on the other hand shouldn't be there.

A French Mutany event would be nice too, especially since it's pretty easy for a human player to fulfill the trigger conditions for the Treaty of Versailles.

 

[Darks63]

really with bulguria i totally occupied romania and no event happened?