War of the Gods

[Metroid17]

Cores on provinces assume that the people in those provinces would want to be part of that empire. Take Alsace-Lorraine, for example, in the game(real life aside)it assumes that because there is a decent amount of Germans there, the people would generally not mind belonging to Germany(Again, real life aside.) They also don't mind being part of France, thus both countries have cores on it.

This is apparently NOT the case with Grant's nation, they wouldn't want to be part of another empire if they've been happy with the one they've been in.

 

[Metroid17]

And yes Ike, it is Obi.

 

[Grue]

@ Rudie - The compromise is fine with me.

By the way, Jarno, if you don't get the forum online by tomorrow, should I install one on my webspace?

 

[General_Grant]

Im sure Delex just claimed Indochina randomly anyway, like the rest. Now there are so many nation than a a person than suggest a new country should really have a look on its neighbors, even more if it is about to make claimed lands.


Metroid17: As you said your nation in Ireland just converted from a magical to a technological society, and are building an huge city all over the island, maybe they need some help?

Kampuchea has been oriented toward technologies since a long time ago and the capital of Saigon is the biggest in the world (your city is going to occupy more land, but it is not all covered with 1km tall skyscrapers like Saigon).

Maybe I could write events regarding Kampuchean technological and architectural help, and cooperation between both countries.

 

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Blue outline is Impiratix now, green dots are cores.

EDIT: Just noticed that this was sitting on top of another new nation, sorry.

Yeah, you could use the territory north of that, though.

 

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Main description:

Name: Delexsian Empire.

Location (Green is claims, red capital, pink provinces are the only industrialized provinces. Capital 15 IC+ 2x pink provinces 15 IC. Base IC = 45 IC):



God: The god like being worshiped is named Delex, the Sybernetic one.

Country:
The Delexsian people believe, that they were created long before the first clash of gods on planet Earth, by a god like being named Delex. They also believe that Delex himself was created in a conflict much grater as the one fought on Earth. The conflict between Darkness and Light. Delex himself is a being of combined darkness and light, which absorbs energy's of light and darkness from other immortal beings to increase his own might. He uses dual blades in combat and has never been defeated. He crated his people, in order to see if they are worthy of his name (And because he cant destroy the powers which created him by himself). After he has crated his people, he disappeared and shows up only, when other gods attack the Delexsian people. He needs their energy to increase his own strength (Light and darkness essence). The Delexsian people have prospered over time, and took over all China and Indochina. But when it came to the first clashes of the gods, the huge disruption forced them to retreat into the core of their country. Now they rebuild and wait for their chance to gain the right of their name.

The Delexsian empire is a parliamentary democracy. It is led by a king, which is supported by the Delexsian lords (Feudal lords). The king is being elected between the Delexsian lords, he is cannot be succeeded by his son (He can be if his son is a Delexsian lord). Only the core of the country is industrialized and is the only part of the country not owned by any Delexsian lord. The other parts of the country are mostly farmlands. The industrial core of the country is heavily barricaded. In combat Delexsians use modern weapons. Occasionally, soldiers also wear swords, which are used in case of close combat or just to show their elite position. In combat vertical mechanized wave is the preferred doctrine.

Flags pics will be sent shortly. And inform me about the claims.

 

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General_Grant-I have an enough good story behind it to hold them. And I dont really care what you say. The land was approved to be mine and it is mine.

Emperor Ike-You didnt offer me anything. You just said that there was territory left.

 

[Miihkali]

Just over 70 years ago, Impiratix reached far north into lands now ruled by Vantium and Turkanen, it used to border the kingdoms of Heimos and it's domain used to strech into whatever that maroon country in western china and Siberia is. They ruled their lands in the name of Pasadon, the god of order.

Their system is a feudal system, local lords controlled most of the kingdoms land. This system was the downfall of Impiratix, a few lords broke their feudal contracts and jumped ship to other nations as the first signs of decline appeared. The situation might have remedied itself if it weren't for the ripple effect. As more lords abandoned the empire, and even more lost confidence and abandoned the empire.

When Impiratixians retreated from north Turkanese tribes pushed from the northern, huge plateaus and plains defeated the weak local warlords. Formerly lived only in mountainous territory which now is in Turkanen's west border and very north areas, Turkaneses found that their people only very few in number ruled now large area. Most powerful warlord on Turkanen region during Impiratix's era was called Urppi and his capital was named Urppiburg. With their ruler Sverdlov Turkaneses destroyed the former Urppiburg and builded new city named Sverdlovsk. Sverdlov himself united Turkanese people and crowned himself to the king Seinähullu I.

I'll put updated history info into Turkanen post after forum is set up.

 

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@ Delex
Giving you claims on Indochina or other lands of Kampuchea wouldn't fit with the history of this part of the world we already have. By claiming all of China you make yourself a remnant of the former chinese empire. That's ok. But Indochina is a part of the Kampechean Heartland, which has it's own culture. I see claims the same way as metroid17 does. The provinces you claim should have a decent amount of people in it, that wouldn't mind belonging to your nation. That is not given when you claim to be a part of the chinese civilwar area (what you do by putting your country in this area). Considering this, giving you claims on the chinese lands is ok, maybe even on korea, but claims on Kampuchea and Aruun (the nation in Manchuria) are not, because those areas share not the chinese culture.

 

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@ Delex
Giving you claims on Indochina or other lands of Kampuchea wouldn't fit with the history of this part of the world we already have. By claiming all of China you make yourself a remnant of the former chinese empire. That's ok. But Indochina is a part of the Kampechean Heartland, which has it's own culture. I see claims the same way as metroid17 does. The provinces you claim should have a decent amount of people in it, that wouldn't mind belonging to your nation. That is not given when you claim to be a part of the chinese civilwar area (what you do by putting your country in this area). Considering this, giving you claims on the chinese lands is ok, maybe even on korea, but claims on Kampuchea and Aruun (the nation in Manchuria) are not, because those areas share not the chinese culture.

Where can I found the current history, so I can research it?

 

[Metroid17]

Well, normally I'd be skeptical about that since our nations are so far apart, but seeing how your empire is rather large, I don't see how it'd be much of a problem. Such events would be more than fine with me.

Also, our city has already been built, or is at least close to being so. Still, mutual trade and such would be great events, for at least flavor and setting an example for friendship between nations in this mod. You got my full approval, and just PM me if you have any questions or want input.

Edit: Or, of course, we'll further discuss such events on the new forum.

 

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I have to admit that it's a bit messy right now. You can find the main history of each country by following the links in the first post.

 

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I have to admit that it's a bit messy right now. You can find the main history of each country by following the links in the first post.

I taught about it. It would fit into story:
-Delexsians have established the rule over this territory before the Chinese empire existed.
-Clash of the gods.
-Delexsians have to retreat into the hilly inland of China.
-The Chinese empire falls apart, the Delexsian empire has the chance to retake its lands.

 

[Metroid17]

I'd suggest you just give up your claims on land other than China,(including giving up claims on Grant's part of Guanxi and Manchuria) Delex.

 

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ok, but then I wouldn't give you claims on China, since this is a different culture. Your Nation would get a event chain leading to a war with all the nations holding territory that was dexian ages ago.
Those provinces could later become national provinces via event. We can discuss this once the forum is set up.

 

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I'd suggest you just give up your claims on land other than China,(including giving up claims on Grant's part of Guangxi and Manchuria) Delex.

Hey im not giving up that easily. And I have time (Sumer holidays ROX).

 

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Well, I have time to discuss, too. But my patience is limited...

 

[OneiricRose]

Alright everybody who's a neighbour of the Ghouls
Can we discuss how small ghoul cults could or already have infiltrated your societies ?, and the history of colonial attempts inside the ghoul land ?, we could make some good events for ghoul cults in your countries, and human colonies in my country

Rudie could I get claims on the Arkadian colony ?

 

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@ Conqueror
I would like if your nation to get claims on the arkadian colony after you've conquered it. It works like getting rid of the humans/turning them into ghouls and then it's a national territory.

Your neighbouring nations are the HoP, the Rustlands, the Sea People, Arkadia. If you conquer the arkadian colony, the republic of the 3 rivers and Atlantis would be new neighbours of yours.

 

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I would be ready for this compromise:


Red are claims gained by events, once territory is owned by me (Costal lands).