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In Europa Universalis III Napoleon's Ambition, can I play as Britain in the War of 1812, and try to defeat the USA after 1815.

I'm looking for a game where I can do that, my goal is to beat the USA in the War of 1812 at or before the year 1820.

I have played Hearts of Iron 2 before, but not this game, so idk if it's like it or not (it looks very similar), and I don't want to go and buy a game just to find out it doesn't have what I am looking for.

It seems to have the American Revolution, which I am also interested in (Relax, American still wins, and even gets Florida to boot), but what bout the War of 1812?
 

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Yes, as the game goes until early 1821.

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Indeed. EU3's simulation of any particular war is a bit underwhelming.

That isn't to say that it isn't fun, it's just not a good simulation of any particular war.
 

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EU is more about the grand scheme of the timeline, not any specific war, especially one so late in the game. You are capable of playing as Britain in the war of 1812, though.
 

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Do your wars usually take 9 years? :confused:

Wars don't usually take more than a few years, but if you want to annex the country you can't do it in one war unless it's a pagan. And then you have to wait 5 more years to go to war again unless you want to heavy destabilise your country and take a big BB hit. So 2-3 years for war, then 5 years of peace and then 2-3 years of war again, and the 9 years are gone.
 

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To show a little mercy on someone who apparently doesn't even have the game yet, nor access to the Mod forums yet; WWM which many are talking about is the Whole World Mod, which expands many of the features of the game.

Rule of thumb: Newbies in any walk of life are incredibly intimidated by acronyms.
 

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As said above, you mostly cannot defeat a large nation within a few years. The EU3 peace mechanic demands you to wage multiple wars to get the enemy provinces step-by-step. This is very different from Viki or HoI, but once you get used to it, it is actually fun, because a defeated enemy has in fact a chance to get his revenge.

The game lasts for 400 years, so 10 years is a very, very short timeframe, basicly I have sometimes fought wars for 15 years (bringing both me and my enemy to the edge of destruction), so - don't be too hasty. EU3 is a game of patience. It is not about building up a huge army and steamroll the whole world, but rather you have to make small steps and increase the size of your country.

For example: As Spain, you defeat Granada and take 2 of their 3 provinces, in a second war 5 years later you annex them. You set up a friendly relationship with France and England to keep your back safe. Then you go for Aragon and take some provinces. The next target is North Africa, you try to grab some provinces from Morocco. After a 5 year peace, you beat Aragon again. Meanwhile you colonize the African westcoast. In a third war, you annex Aragon and wait 50 years to get your cores to form Spain. As soon as possible, you either go for Portugal or sail to the new world - or do both. You colonize the Carribians and desperatly try to prevent the French from attacking you. If they do, you fight a defensive war and try to save your hide. Then you colonize north and south america, once you are eye-to-eye with France, you can start attacking them... And when this happenes, it is probably already around 1550 or something... ;)

Or, for example if you start in 1399 and plan to destroy France, it will take you about 50-200 years, depending on your skill level and the AI reactions. If you are lucky and the AI makes a blunder, you can take out France quite early (meaning: weaken them so much that the next war won't be a problem), but most of the times you will have to expand your economy stand a chance.

And the larger your foe becomes, the more difficult it is to crush him and make his realm collapse. ;)


So basicly: You can defeat Napoleon and sign a white peace (or make them releas some minor countries) in your timeframe, but "defeating" France in terms of getting major parts of it's posessions - no way. My guess is you would require at least 50 years for this. At least.

Patience is the key. Slow and steady wins the race!
 
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its all good guys, that's the challenge I'm trying to do is within 9 years. My plan is to take as much territory as I can from the USA, and force it to become a UK puppet state (aka a dominion like Australia or Canada, with a governor general as a separate head of state), rather than annexing the country outright.

IMHO, EU3 would be more accurate than HOI, so that why I want to use it, and as long as it's similar to HOI in that I can beat an opponent until they are forced to accept my demand or making them a puppet, and it's as historically accurate to the situation of 1815 as possible, I'd be a happy camper.