War in Heaven triggering criteria ?

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Hello guys,

I'm trying to get the "Last, Best hope" achievement (Lead the non-aligned powers to victory against an awakened empire), but I never manage to wake up more than one fallen empire at a time.

> Its been 6/7 games on medium to huge maps now, and I've experimented with several settings (2/3/4 FEs).
> I am able to "choose" when the first FE awakes thanks to this page > http://www.stellariswiki.com/Fallen_empire (I stay under 40K fleet power until I feel "ready" for the war in heaven)


Is it just a matter of probabilities (i.e. I am really unlucky), or did I miss something ?
Any idea ?
 

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After 1 FE Awakes there is a 40 percent chance of another FE awakening if is of opposite ethos. There is 20 percent chance of FE awakening of any other ethos. Note however that it will take 10 years for it to fire and only if another FE has the "Rival modifier". This is all determined after the first FE becomes an AE. And there is a 60 percent chance of nothing happening, also note that if an empire awakens due to crisses than this nulls the War in Heaven.
 
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Is it just a matter of probabilities (i.e. I am really unlucky), or did I miss something ?
Any idea ?
It is a mater of propablity and taking 10 years.
Also Guardian awakening explicitly does not trigger it.
For obvious reasons having the maximum amount of fallen empires helps. Better chance to actually have the rival in your game.

You do know that War In heaven is limited to Leviathan Storypack/DLC?
 

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Does the Guardian FE awakening stop others from awakening? Seemed like that happened in one game, but not sure.

Also, in my current, I might have killed the one that was tagged as the rival after the spiritualist FE woke up, even though the opposite is materialist, not xenophile.
 

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Does the Guardian FE awakening stop others from awakening? Seemed like that happened in one game, but not sure.
Guardian awkening does lock out normal awakening, but not a already sheduled Rival Awakening.
 

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Hello guys,

I'm trying to get the "Last, Best hope" achievement (Lead the non-aligned powers to victory against an awakened empire)

Somewhat unrelated: I just now noticed that this is an homage to Babylon 5.
Coming from a guy who played as "The Shadows" in a Multiplayer game on his own Youtube channel. Sometimes I am soooo dense....
 

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Somewhat unrelated: I just now noticed that this is an homage to Babylon 5.
Coming from a guy who played as "The Shadows" in a Multiplayer game on his own Youtube channel. Sometimes I am soooo dense....
I only got it myself because of the "Giants in the Playground" quote. Wich reminded me of www.giantitp.com.
Wich is named after said cite and hosts the webcomic "Order of the Stick", that I keep viewing.
But I actually had to re-watch the part to notice that full cite was from Ivanova. Sherridan only later referenced her.