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A democratic gov. has the worst chance because they need a high war entry
(or is it 100%?) approval rating.
The fascist & communist govs do not need this approval rating from their
population.The other types of gov. that you probably have noticed, are just
different forms of democratic, fascist or communist govs.
It can also depend on the type of gov. & their alignment with you, that you
wish to declare war on.There can be, at least, a diplomatic penalty for
declaring war on a country closely aligned with you.
Iirc, this is at least partially explained in the faq, manual & probably old
threads.
(or is it 100%?) approval rating.
The fascist & communist govs do not need this approval rating from their
population.The other types of gov. that you probably have noticed, are just
different forms of democratic, fascist or communist govs.
It can also depend on the type of gov. & their alignment with you, that you
wish to declare war on.There can be, at least, a diplomatic penalty for
declaring war on a country closely aligned with you.
Iirc, this is at least partially explained in the faq, manual & probably old
threads.
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Communist (Stalinist, Leninist, Left Wing Radical) and Fascist (National Socialist, Fascist, Paternal Autocrat). Democracies, as has been stated already, need a 100% war entry for this.ASAD said:
As a Fascist, you get a double dissent hit for attacking other fascist countries, not sure about the exact numbers though.
Also democracies get a whoping 40% dissent hit for declaring war, even if support is at 100%
But is it possible to change democratic goverment in elections.For e.g. choosing right or left side in elections?Change from democratic goverment off course.
Yep, as long as you are a minor, you can change governments by continually picking left/right.ASAD said:
Tambourmajor said:
Hello!
AFAIR if you're fascist, you don't have any dissent when DOWing Democracies, but get 2% Diss when DOW other Fascist, Paternal Aut., or Nazi.
Paternal Autocrat gets huge 20% diss. but once you're at war your CG demand goes reasonably down (50% I think). Important thing to remember is not to annex until you get rid of diss.
If you're playing Poland I suggest to go right in 1st elections (May '36). You'll become Paternal Aut. and it's start of your "World Tour"
Good choice is to invade Czechs, and Baltic countries, but watch out for Spheres of Influence.
Cheers,
Blase
I deleated the spheres of ifluence in my games. Damn things.SirBlase said:Hello!
AFAIR if you're fascist, you don't have any dissent when DOWing Democracies, but get 2% Diss when DOW other Fascist, Paternal Aut., or Nazi.
Paternal Autocrat gets huge 20% diss. but once you're at war your CG demand goes reasonably down (50% I think). Important thing to remember is not to annex until you get rid of diss.
If you're playing Poland I suggest to go right in 1st elections (May '36). You'll become Paternal Aut. and it's start of your "World Tour"
Good choice is to invade Czechs, and Baltic countries, but watch out for Spheres of Influence.
Cheers,
Blase
new game
I'm sure that as facist you get dissent for DOWing any nation, but its lowes (2%?) for democracies, 4% for pat auto and higher for other facists.
But I'm not sure.
Also thanks for an idea for my next game - Polish would tour (early entry into the EU?)
My current Romania rules! game has gotten a bit teadious slogging through Africa.
SirBlase said:Hello!
AFAIR if you're fascist, you don't have any dissent when DOWing Democracies, but get 2% Diss when DOW other Fascist, Paternal Aut., or Nazi.
Paternal Autocrat gets huge 20% diss. but once you're at war your CG demand goes reasonably down (50% I think). Important thing to remember is not to annex until you get rid of diss.
If you're playing Poland I suggest to go right in 1st elections (May '36). You'll become Paternal Aut. and it's start of your "World Tour"
Good choice is to invade Czechs, and Baltic countries, but watch out for Spheres of Influence.
Cheers,
Blase
I'm sure that as facist you get dissent for DOWing any nation, but its lowes (2%?) for democracies, 4% for pat auto and higher for other facists.
But I'm not sure.
Also thanks for an idea for my next game - Polish would tour (early entry into the EU?)
My current Romania rules! game has gotten a bit teadious slogging through Africa.
A miricle?ASAD said:At last I know how to conquer the whole world playing as Poland
Why miracle??ringwraith18 said:A miricle?
Someone says that in 1936 Poland could conquered Third Reich.
But it is only prediction.
ASAD said:
Iirc others have said that they've done fairly well with weaker countries.
Well...yes, in real life they could have, but this isn't real lifeASAD said:
For a fun game, give yourself territorial demands on all of eastern Europe
You get a good IC, good MP, the Germans will probably not touch you
DoW Dissent
For communists are 10% against fascists or democracies and 20% against commies. Democracies are 40% against other government types or 80% against fellow democracies. Basically, join an alliance if you want to fight as a democracy or let the action come to you.
As for the spheres of influence, does anyone know if they're in HoI 2? I like the concept, but it makes playing a belligerent minor a lot tougher (except for the time I couped the good ol' USA to Fascism as Brazil...whee! ).
IIRC, it depends more on both country and type of government. Germany gets the least dissent for DoWs: 0.4% against commies, 1% against democracies, and 2% against fascists. Italy and Japan are double those numbers. Minor fascists (well, more likely paternal autocrats) are, I think, 2%, 4%, 10%. As always, DoWs against countries on which you have territorial claims are divided by two.
For communists are 10% against fascists or democracies and 20% against commies. Democracies are 40% against other government types or 80% against fellow democracies. Basically, join an alliance if you want to fight as a democracy or let the action come to you.
As for the spheres of influence, does anyone know if they're in HoI 2? I like the concept, but it makes playing a belligerent minor a lot tougher (except for the time I couped the good ol' USA to Fascism as Brazil...whee!
).
CaptMunchies said:
Dissent hits From The Manual Project:
Democracy vs. Democracy 80%
Democracy vs. other 40%
Fascist vs. Fascist 20%
Communist vs. Communist 20%
Fascist vs. Democracy 10%
Communist vs. Democracy 10%
Fascist vs. Communist 4%
Communist vs. Fascist 10%
Germany vs. Fascist 2%
Germany vs. Democracy 1%
Germany vs. Communist 0.4%
Italy/Japan vs. Fascist 4%
Italy/Japan vs. Democracy 2%
Italy/Japan vs. Communist 0.8%
If you have a national claim on a province, dissent is halved
So standard for Fascist group (Nat Soc/Fasc/Pat Aut) is 4%/10%/20% dissent with Italy/Japan getting only 20% and Germany only 10% of these levels. Italy, Japan and Germany also get discounted dissent if they are democracies (only 20% of standard democracy rating - generally only relevant for Japan).
ASAD said:
I've actually seen AI controlled (!!!) Poland become the most powerful and advanced nation in the world except for the USA :rofl: . In that game Poland captured Moscow, Arkhangelsk and Stalingrad by 1938. Romania was the second most advanced country in Europe (stretching all the way into Kazakhstan). I played as Tannu Tuva and since lack of manpower totally prevented me from actually building an army, I entertained myself by DOWing everybody (starting on January 1, 1936). So it was the entire world against the USSR. By 1948 the USSR was still standing, but Poland was pressing into Siberia, Romania was in Kazakhstan, Italy grabbed the Commodores, Sweden had Murmansk and areas around it, US controlled Leningrad, Turkey was in Central Asia (Persia had been previously annexed by the Soviets and Turkey almost fell at one point), Germany got only Sevastopol and absolutely nothing else (no Anschluss, no Munich and obviously no Danzig - picking on mighty Poland certainly would not have been prudent, considering the technological gap :rofl: - in fact Poland joined the Axis at some point), the Dutch conquered Estonia (previously annexed by the USSR), Switzerland and Latin America just totally ignored my DOWs
etc.
ringwraith18 said:Well...yes, in real life they could have, but this isn't real life
For a fun game, give yourself territorial demands on all of eastern Europe
You get a good IC, good MP, the Germans will probably not touch you
In game Poland could beat Germany too.AI controlled Germany doesn't behave like real.By trainig large amounts of infantry and ten flooding Third Reich ,Poland could reach Berlin.
I don't know if anyone asked you this, but I'm really interested in what your signature sentence means? This "Nie oddamy ani guzika". I have a wild guess... Like to see if I'm right.
BTW, does anyone know (some handsome way) how to load as another country, at the same historical moment, without the save game/surrender/start new game as the other country/load the game of the former country routine? It is handy when you want some of your ally's units or technologies but don't want to take military control which is burdensome in the long run (and requires editing [I don't know] to get rid off later?)
BTW, does anyone know (some handsome way) how to load as another country, at the same historical moment, without the save game/surrender/start new game as the other country/load the game of the former country routine? It is handy when you want some of your ally's units or technologies but don't want to take military control which is burdensome in the long run (and requires editing [I don't know] to get rid off later?)
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Battle Duke said:
It means "We don't handover even a button".More clearly means "We will stand for any price and won't step back"