War cancelling event - Tactical question

[Carlberg]

Hypothetical tactical scenario question here, say I attack a country consisting of just 2-3 provinces. At the same time they're attacked by another nation neighboring us both that I have a truce with. I however manage to get in first and control the siege of all provinces and once finished I annex all 2-3 provinces of said nation.

Would the war just end for the other attacking nation? Black flagged and forced to return home empty handed.
Or would they be at war with me in that case? A country that they're currently at truce with.

 

[Gratak]

They will only be at war with you if you vassalize said country. Yet, they will not be at peace, but rather at war with the allies of the target you annexed, despite the fact that the war target is not there anymore. BTW: this is very much not hypothetical. Happens often without player interference at the AI loves to attack countries that are already basically dead...

 

[Vetgirig]

Yes. their war will end if the nation no longer exists. If you vasselite the nation you will be dragged into the war. (it is in that case stated in the peace deal).

Some players use this to get dragged into a war on purpose to get into the war as a defender and not as a attacker. You can then call your own allies into the war etc.

 

[Gratak]

Yes. their war will end if the nation no longer exists. If you vasselite the nation you will be dragged into the war. (it is in that case stated in the peace deal).

Some players use this to get dragged into a war on purpose to get into the war as a defender and not as a attacker. You can then call your own allies into the war etc.

It can also be helpful to get some allies in an important war you otherwise would never get. I once vassalized some OPM who was currently fighting france together with spain (who hated me as well as france ). The OPM joined some tiny war against me, in which I vassalized them. This set me and my allies (you become war leader) in a perfect situation to fight france with very unexpected help...

 

[atwix]

Yes. their war will end if the nation no longer exists. If you vasselite the nation you will be dragged into the war. (it is in that case stated in the peace deal).

Some players use this to get dragged into a war on purpose to get into the war as a defender and not as a attacker. You can then call your own allies into the war etc.

its great way to get into a war versus a nation you ALSO want to vassalse, but with whom you got no other way of getting them in a war.

In 1.9.2, it was easily abused, chaining wars like this and vassalising everyone.

 

[paulatreides0]

I've had this happen to me as an ally to Burgundy. Burgundy starts a war. Inheritance happens. They dissapear. I'm suddenly outnumbered because ~40k to ~50k troops were magicked away and the war didn't end with the death of the guy who started the war.

Yes. their war will end if the nation no longer exists. If you vasselite the nation you will be dragged into the war. (it is in that case stated in the peace deal).

Some players use this to get dragged into a war on purpose to get into the war as a defender and not as a attacker. You can then call your own allies into the war etc.

Not always, as with the above Burgundy example. At least not unless they've fixed it in 1.15. I know for a fact it happened in 1.14.

 

[Gratak]

I've had this happen to me as an ally to Burgundy. Burgundy starts a war. Inheritance happens. They dissapear. I'm suddenly outnumbered because ~40k to ~50k troops were magicked away and the war didn't end with the death of the guy who started the war.



Not always, as with the above Burgundy example. At least not unless they've fixed it in 1.15. I know for a fact it happened in 1.14.

As I said, the war with the allies of the annexed country continuous.