Thought id check out the forums again after a few months absence to see whats being said and I notice people are still madly complaining about HOI III and so they should be.
Some of you folks really need to wake up in my opinion!
Ive been playing games like this for a long time now, also ive followed the HOI series from the outset with the original hearts of iron which means in plain terms i grasp the concepts of what paradox have tried to do, and playing all the games in series also means ive been able to observe changes and patterns of development. Couple to that heavy experience with many other games of the same type what that means practically is im not an idiot and understand how they work.
THE FACT IS HEARTS OF IRON 3 IS CRAP.
It amazes me that anyone here defends paradox at all, but maybe the minority folks defending paradox are paid by paradox or maybe their just blind dumb asses?
Some of you just dont get it do you?
Do you really think that just because paradox gives themselves a presence here for player feedback it means a working game is their priority? ofc not!
The only way for you to discover that their game doesnt work, and is not anywhere near working at a satisfactory level for marketing is to buy it right? You cant tell without buying it yes? But after you have bought it they have already got your money right? Now amplify that by the volume of people that have to open their wallets to face dissapointment. Paradox just like other game companies are making huge amounts of money, after their bank account is fat with your pennies offering themselves up for player feedback is just a veneer to apear noble to the masses.
Its no good people posting replies trying to make me or anyone else out to be an idiot. We all tolerate a certain amount of bugs and problems, I know all abut the pain of that I cut my teeth all those years ago modding Elder Scrolls Morrowind and learned just how painful it can be if your not careful, ive modded games since then.
The fact is HOI 3 didnt even come close to working at a basic level, forget fancy stuff, they couldnt even get the basics right...
Now consider this: This was not their first game in the series, but was the third in the series, the third game for all intents and purposes the same as the previous, so even with bugs and imperfections they should have had it pretty down, but from what I read here and my own expereinces they haven't.
Get used to it folks, theres a new concept in game making that game companies have now discovered and that is they can get away with making and selling games not ready for the market.
Think about it. I hear it all across the board and your going to see that behaviour more and more, more and more games getting released that are not ready for release and why? because its not about you or the game its about money! MONEY is all they care about, its a business. And the software companies know they can get away with it, youll still buy the games and youll complain when they dont work properly, but what can you actually do about it hmnn? What can you do about the vast sums of money in their bank account, theyve already got your cash.
Only fools think the games companies are somehow noble patching stuff for your plerasure, fact is its written into game legality, they wouldnt have customers for long if they didnt make patches.
I have loved the HOI series for a long time but when i started playing III i finally saw with clarity exactly how far games companies are willing to go to treat me like an idiot, because releasing HOI III as it was was tantamount to insulting me in my opinion.
And I also love Fallout 3 but i have it off the record from one of bethesdas team that they knew f3 wasnt ready for release but released it anyway because the volume of money they would be making would far outweigh the clamour of dissapointed fans.
So before you judge me as harsh consider what ive said and steel yourself and get used to a rapidly declining quality in games that will be released in the future. Game quality will fall until it hits a minimum horizon line that they can get away with, and i dont know about anyone lese but i dont like to be treated like a fool.
to quote another forum writer here "...my time with paradox is over..." As much as i have enjoyed the HOI games in the past, theyve now lost my custom, in my opinion at least HOI II had the semblance of something that worked, its problems were tolerable, HOI III was just a joke.
and before people start replying with whining posts about paradox being treated unfairly, this is what they do for a living, there isnt one of them there are many, and they have had 2 of the sdame games previously to work from.
There are no excuses for the pathetic example of a game that was HOI III.
And for those slow witted minds out there join the dots and look at other games across the board, think about the last say 10 years of games, and youll soon see a pattern emerging, a pattern of rapidly declining quality, not accidental but deliberate.
not my loss its paradox's loss, thats one les income theyll have from me.
QED
Some of you folks really need to wake up in my opinion!
Ive been playing games like this for a long time now, also ive followed the HOI series from the outset with the original hearts of iron which means in plain terms i grasp the concepts of what paradox have tried to do, and playing all the games in series also means ive been able to observe changes and patterns of development. Couple to that heavy experience with many other games of the same type what that means practically is im not an idiot and understand how they work.
THE FACT IS HEARTS OF IRON 3 IS CRAP.
It amazes me that anyone here defends paradox at all, but maybe the minority folks defending paradox are paid by paradox or maybe their just blind dumb asses?
Some of you just dont get it do you?
Do you really think that just because paradox gives themselves a presence here for player feedback it means a working game is their priority? ofc not!
The only way for you to discover that their game doesnt work, and is not anywhere near working at a satisfactory level for marketing is to buy it right? You cant tell without buying it yes? But after you have bought it they have already got your money right? Now amplify that by the volume of people that have to open their wallets to face dissapointment. Paradox just like other game companies are making huge amounts of money, after their bank account is fat with your pennies offering themselves up for player feedback is just a veneer to apear noble to the masses.
Its no good people posting replies trying to make me or anyone else out to be an idiot. We all tolerate a certain amount of bugs and problems, I know all abut the pain of that I cut my teeth all those years ago modding Elder Scrolls Morrowind and learned just how painful it can be if your not careful, ive modded games since then.
The fact is HOI 3 didnt even come close to working at a basic level, forget fancy stuff, they couldnt even get the basics right...
Now consider this: This was not their first game in the series, but was the third in the series, the third game for all intents and purposes the same as the previous, so even with bugs and imperfections they should have had it pretty down, but from what I read here and my own expereinces they haven't.
Get used to it folks, theres a new concept in game making that game companies have now discovered and that is they can get away with making and selling games not ready for the market.
Think about it. I hear it all across the board and your going to see that behaviour more and more, more and more games getting released that are not ready for release and why? because its not about you or the game its about money! MONEY is all they care about, its a business. And the software companies know they can get away with it, youll still buy the games and youll complain when they dont work properly, but what can you actually do about it hmnn? What can you do about the vast sums of money in their bank account, theyve already got your cash.
Only fools think the games companies are somehow noble patching stuff for your plerasure, fact is its written into game legality, they wouldnt have customers for long if they didnt make patches.
I have loved the HOI series for a long time but when i started playing III i finally saw with clarity exactly how far games companies are willing to go to treat me like an idiot, because releasing HOI III as it was was tantamount to insulting me in my opinion.
And I also love Fallout 3 but i have it off the record from one of bethesdas team that they knew f3 wasnt ready for release but released it anyway because the volume of money they would be making would far outweigh the clamour of dissapointed fans.
So before you judge me as harsh consider what ive said and steel yourself and get used to a rapidly declining quality in games that will be released in the future. Game quality will fall until it hits a minimum horizon line that they can get away with, and i dont know about anyone lese but i dont like to be treated like a fool.
to quote another forum writer here "...my time with paradox is over..." As much as i have enjoyed the HOI games in the past, theyve now lost my custom, in my opinion at least HOI II had the semblance of something that worked, its problems were tolerable, HOI III was just a joke.
and before people start replying with whining posts about paradox being treated unfairly, this is what they do for a living, there isnt one of them there are many, and they have had 2 of the sdame games previously to work from.
There are no excuses for the pathetic example of a game that was HOI III.
And for those slow witted minds out there join the dots and look at other games across the board, think about the last say 10 years of games, and youll soon see a pattern emerging, a pattern of rapidly declining quality, not accidental but deliberate.
not my loss its paradox's loss, thats one les income theyll have from me.
QED
