Wait, so Empire of the Platypus isn't a joke?

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It's a joke name for a semi-minor nation which most players will rarely if ever see unless they are specifically going for a fascist playthrough of that nation. It's a fucking joke in a video game.

Jesus fucking christ how I hate the internet.
 
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A joke is something that doesn't break immersion, and makes you chuckle a bit. This is not a joke. If it doesn't offend anyone and people think it's funny, we should rename the actual country of Australia to "The Empire of the Platypus". That way, people will be happy!

In all seriousness, why is there support for this? I can just see in Europa Universalis V:
France -> Baguette
England -> Crocodile Kingdom (because why not)
Ottoman Empire -> Kebab
etc...


Either way, the developers probably forgot to remove a joke or a placeholder name. I doubt they would just forsake the seriousness of all of their other games for this.
 
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The UK should obviously be named Top Hattistan in Vicky 3.

You know, I told my friend to rename his trotskyist Soviet Union to "Trotskylvania" (I didn't know whether that was a thing you could do or not at the time). But that was a joke and it's plain that that is not a good idea to have hardcoded into the game.
 
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It's idiotic game design to implement 'features' that nobody wants that will surely upset some portion of your playerbase.

Now that it's here I want it to stay. I never knew I wanted fascist Australia to be named "the Empire of the Platypus" before. I say this as a 25-year-old American mechanical engineer who has often critiqued Paradox's design decisions (corruption in EU4 and the Umayyad piranha vassals in CK2 for example).
 
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Trolls keep trolling.

Meanwhile I really wish I could recommend this game to friends and colleagues that have not tried any grand strategy games from Paradox before but are interested in WW2 setting so we can multiplayer it up. With these joke names though they are not going to take it seriously and will dismiss it. I can fix these oversights with mods but it isn't going to help boost sales.

It boggles the mind why you would make a history game where the objective is to either 1. be democratic, sit on your hands and wait for fascists/communists to begin wars so you can intervene or 2. be fascist, able to declare war freely and actually have a purpose other than sitting on your hands but get given a clown name for your nation because... fascism isn't cool mmmkay?
 
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Dude you aren't. It's a shitty joke that strayed too far and went into the actual game. It's like a comedian making a funny joke then going, I'M FUNNY RIGHT GUYS? RIGHT? It should have been removed at release. Free American Empire is another one along with Vichy thats silly and unfounded. They certainly made some strange choices for names.

You know Vichy France was actually a thing, right?
 
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A fascist France that formed on its own instead of being a puppet state would not likely change their capital to Vichy.

Ah, I didn't realize that that was the name of the self formed fascist France. Nonetheless, it's still at least got some historical significance to it over Empire of the Platypus.
 
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people just fear our powerful platypus legions, they fear the day our platypus marines swim silently up onto their beaches beginning the invasion of their pitiful nations, as we rain deadly australian wildlife from the skies onto their population centres our wombat scouts will be tunnelling away thru their nation gathering intel on weakpoints in the enemy defences, our cassowary shocktroopers and armoured kangaroos will advance from the beachhead towards the enemy strongpoints to smash them with the support of our magpie dive bombers, our mobile emu infantry will speed thru the weakpoints to flank enemy formations, while our dropbear para's will be disrupting the rear echelon area of our enemy making resupply and reenforcement for our enemies armies impossible, our kookaburra bombers will be pummeling the enemies industry with ease due to our wedgetail eagle fighters control of the skies, within weeks we shall be in the capital wearing stubbies and thongs drinking cold bush chooks with dazza, wazza and davo :)
 
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"To all the people saying you don't mind the stupid name, no one really cares." All of us who aren't bawling our eyes out can say the same thing.

Also Rosa Luxemburg? That's Red Lexemburg. Rosa is red. So it makes sense.

If you don't care about the issue, then why are you even posting here? Is it an important aspect of the game for you that 2 nations are relegated to being a comedic easter egg? Are you just arguing for the sake of it?

And Rosa Luxemburg is a pun about a famous Marxist of the same name, unless you have some other fantastic reason as to why Luxembourg would name themselves after a Latin word.
 
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If you don't like ahistorical play why would you ever turn the ozzies facist?

Australia turning Fascist is something that could have conceivably happened in history, especially if the Japanese had been more successful and formed a puppet state out of it.

No Fascist government would have even considered the name "Empire of the Platypus," though.

So don't try and play that card.
 
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Its not about being offended or not being able to take a joke. Its about not wanting to play a nation because of it having a ridiculous name that ruins the immersion. I for one wont be playing Australia until they change the name.
 
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I think it's really funny personally but I can understand why people might be upset if they want a more verisimilitudinous experience. Still, I'm not sure I understand how it's insulting to portray a fascist power as ridiculous. Not the tone a player wants - sure. Insulting? They're fascists, who cares!
Why isn't commie Australia called a stupid name then? Oh right because Swedish developer.
 
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I rather dislike the name too but not really much can be done till they clear things up, aye?

Hopefully they will bring it up in the cast, cause does seem like a placeholder till can get a real name in, at lest to me.

Just my two pence on the subject is all.
 

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While it was not just this single issue with the game, it certainly was a contributing factor to me not buying it at all. Paradox are certainly free to develop a game however they want, but choosing to release the game like this tells me their design philosophy has diverged from what I want in this type of game.

Especially after I pre-ordered Stellaris, and have been consistently disappointed in it.
 
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I think the easiest way to fix this problem for both sides is just give the ability to rename countries whatever you want, as well as having the ability randomize with a bunch of generic fascist names.
That ability is already there, just edit a text file.

In fact, it could have been done in shorter time than the OP spent composing the first post, which is why all the epic crying is so funny.
 
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Code:
SAU_fascism:0 "Arabic Empire"
SAU_fascism_DEF:0 "The Arabic Empire"
SAU_democratic:0 "Arabian Republic"
SAU_democratic_DEF:0 "The Arabian Republic"
SAU_neutrality:0 "Saudi Arabia"
SAU_neutrality_DEF:0 "Saudi Arabia"
SAU_communism:0 "Arabian Socialist Republic"
SAU_communism_DEF:0 "The Arabian Socialist Republic"
SAU_fascism_ADJ:0 "Saudi Arabian"
SAU_democratic_ADJ:0 "Saudi Arabian"
SAU_neutrality_ADJ:0 "Saudi Arabian"
SAU_communism_ADJ:0 "Saudi Arabian"
So even if you claim the "Arabic" Empire, you're still considered Saudi. Pretty lazy. Let's laugh at some more of these, shall we chaps?

Code:
BHU_fascism:0 "Thunder Dragon Empire"
BHU_fascism_DEF:0 "The Thunder Dragon Empire"
BHU_democratic:0 "Bhutanese Republic"
BHU_democratic_DEF:0 "The Bhutanese Republic"
BHU_neutrality:0 "Bhutan"
BHU_neutrality_DEF:0 "Bhutan"
BHU_communism:0 "Union of Red Dragons"
BHU_communism_DEF:0 "The Union of Red Dragons"
BHU_fascism_ADJ:0 "Bhutanese"
BHU_democratic_ADJ:0 "Bhutanese"
BHU_neutrality_ADJ:0 "Bhutanese"
BHU_communism_ADJ:0 "Bhutanese"
"Thunder Dragon Empire." "The Union of Red Dragons." Yep. Dank maymays, huh guys?

Code:
 RAJ_fascism:0 "Nationalist India"
 RAJ_fascism_DEF:0 "Nationalist India"
 RAJ_democratic:0 "India"
 RAJ_democratic_DEF:0 "India"
 RAJ_neutrality:0 "British Raj"
 RAJ_neutrality_DEF:0 "The British Raj"
 RAJ_communism:0 "People's Republic of India"
 RAJ_communism_DEF:0 "The People's Republic of India"
 RAJ_fascism_ADJ:0 "British Indian"
 RAJ_democratic_ADJ:0 "British Indian"
 RAJ_neutrality_ADJ:0 "British Indian"
 RAJ_communism_ADJ:0 "British Indian"
This basically means that even if you gain independence and become truly India, you're still considered "British Indian." Then again, I don't think Paradox set it up for India proper to actually ever become truly independent. Graphical DLC and a patch for India may be in the works.
 
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