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"immersion" "professionalism" i don't think you either know what those words mean or what context to use them in.
I think I know them well enough, being in the software industry for so many years but yeah, keep it up with the assumptions.
 
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Empire of the platypus, awesome i was going to start with germany or the UK to get the hang of things, but the opportunity to march roo skin jackboots over my kiwi cousins while praising the glory of the platypus im in
 
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professionalism.
You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.
This product works, and the parts that don't work like the graphic issues have been acknowledged and are being addressed. This is what professionalism is about.

This is also an entertainment product. So you should expect some creativity, especially when naming stuff that never existed. For example they have used that creativity in naming equipment that was never even designed.
This specif part of creativity is not to your taste, fine, I get it. You can resent them for naming something after their logo all you want. But that doesn't mean they are not professionals, it just means you have a different idea than them over what is 'fun'.
 
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Ok, heres the thing.

If Paradox had made the default names as plausible, there wouldnt be any threads saying "Why isn't Fascist Australia called Empire of the Platypus".

Because they opted to do things the other way around, there is.

This is why it's stupid
 
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Really? No respect for history? Tell me what was the historical name for the facist state of Australia circa 1939 again? Complaining about a lack of historical respect in a fictional context hardly makes sense now...
Prior to HOI IV, HOI has always been about "what if's". But the what if's have been plausible, believable, scenarios that could have occurred if that had happened instead of this, this instead of that. Variations occurred alternating from actual events, yes, but as much as possible they were always based on reality, on real possibilities.

With that in mind In what version of world war two would a Fascist Regime (so, oppressive, dictatorial, abusive, not renowned for their sense of humour), EVER call themselves "The Empire of the Platypus?" Be honest now.
 
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Huh? so there is not a single soul that has a problem with Australia called Empire of the platypus if they go facist in this game?

Ok I can sort of buy into the argument that it breaks immersions for some players but that is as far as I can have any understanding of all this critique.
Some of the arguments and rambling and wierd comparisions to other things is borderline insanity.
 
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Huh? so there is not a single soul that has a problem with Australia called Empire of the platypus if they go facist in this game?

Ok I can sort of buy into the argument that it breaks immersions for some players but that is as far as I can have any understanding of all this critique.
Some of the arguments and rambling and wierd comparisions to other things is borderline insanity.
Crass, if you read the thread properly you will see that many of us do have a problem with it. Including me.
 
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Edit: New Zealand is called "Kiwi Empire/Republic" as well. Seems like Paradox just view our two nations as a geography joke, or a far away fantasy land or something from the Simpsons, not actual places with history where people live.

Hey dont drag us into this - we like being called Kiwi's ;)
 
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They joke about Fascist Australia, but it was a very real possibility thanks not only to Menzies but to paramilitary groups and a very, very active "fascist" movement.
 
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It's a shame that Aussies have no sense of humour.

I guess it comes from playing second fiddle to New Zealand.
 
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Prior to HOI IV, HOI has always been about "what if's". But the what if's have been plausible, believable, scenarios that could have occurred if that had happened instead of this, this instead of that. Variations occurred alternating from actual events, yes, but as much as possible they were always based on reality, on real possibilities.

With that in mind In what version of world war two would a Fascist Regime (so, oppressive, dictatorial, abusive, not renowned for their sense of humour), EVER call themselves "The Empire of the Platypus?" Be honest now.

One were the facists have a sense of humor.
 
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I can't believe that there are actually people on this forum who are defending this, especially when so many people flipped their shit over Sunset Invasion.

Actually, I blame CK2 for this. Because CK2 gradually pandered more and more to ahistorical play and (bad) comedy, it seems to have become an accepted and even expected part of Paradox games.

I don't want it. Dynamic names should only exist where they are needed. Obviously, a non-Communist Soviet Union would not be called the Soviet Union. A Communist United Kingdom would not be the United Kingdom.

There's no need for a unique name for every government of every nation, though, and some of these names are so ridiculous that they feel like a slap in the face.
 
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I can't believe that there are actually people on this forum who are defending this, especially when so many people flipped their shit over Sunset Invasion.

Actually, I blame CK2 for this. Because CK2 gradually pandered more and more to ahistorical play and (bad) comedy, it seems to have become an accepted and even expected part of Paradox games.

I don't want it. Dynamic names should only exist where they are needed. Obviously, a non-Communist Soviet Union would not be called the Soviet Union. A Communist United Kingdom would not be the United Kingdom.

There's no need for a unique name for every government of every nation, though, and some of these names are so ridiculous that they feel like a slap in the face.

If you don't like ahistorical play why would you ever turn the ozzies facist?
 
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I think the easiest way to fix this problem for both sides is just give the ability to rename countries whatever you want, as well as having the ability randomize with a bunch of generic fascist names.
 
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That wouldn't fix the 0,1% (figurative statistics, mind you) possibility that AI pulls it off.
You're right I didn't think about that. The only way i can think of reasonably to please the immersion side is that the platypus name can never be used by the AI. But rather it uses just generic names from the list. while a human player going through randomize list and can get the platypus name as a possible choice as a little Easter egg? I know the platypus side might not like it but its a compromise
 
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To all the people saying you don't mind the stupid name, no one really cares. It's idiotic game design to implement 'features' that nobody wants that will surely upset some portion of your playerbase. There is no trade-off in this scenario - no one would be upset if Australia and NZ had logical names, but some people are surely going to be pissed off if they have joke names.

This isn't the only example either. Rosa Luxemburg? The Shogunate of Japan? Utterly ridiculous.
 
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To all the people saying you don't mind the stupid name, no one really cares. It's idiotic game design to implement 'features' that nobody wants that will surely upset some portion of your playerbase. There is no trade-off in this scenario - no one would be upset if Australia and NZ had logical names, but some people are surely going to be pissed off if they have joke names.

This isn't the only example either. Rosa Luxemburg? The Shogunate of Japan? Utterly ridiculous.
"To all the people saying you don't mind the stupid name, no one really cares." All of us who aren't bawling our eyes out can say the same thing.

Also Rosa Luxemburg? That's Red Lexemburg. Rosa is red. So it makes sense.
 
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