WAD: Byzantine empire stewardship bonus

[richie]

Byzantine empire stewardship bonus

Just exactly how big bonus for Byzantuim ruler should be?
I'm asking, because if the answer is 10, then it is a bug - Byzantum ruler always has 2x bonus for kingdom, so the final bonus is _always_ 20.
And if the 20 is WaD, then.. hmm, isn't it a liitle bit too much? I know, Byzantium is Empire, and can be quite big etc but when many rulers of other big, significant kingdoms are struggling to achieve 10 demesne limit in the same time playing Byzantium you always got 20 plus "few extra" from ruler stewardship.
Not too easy?

 

[Brownbeard]

here's a possible bug combined. i play as king of croatia, eventually i grab byzantine crown after the crusades. as king of croatia(primary) and many kingdoms AND emperor of byzantium i don't get that bonus since byzantium is not my primary id.

 

[Grosshaus]

here's a possible bug combined. i play as king of croatia, eventually i grab byzantine crown after the crusades. as king of croatia(primary) and many kingdoms AND emperor of byzantium i don't get that bonus since byzantium is not my primary id.

WAD, it's not the same to *be* Byzantium and conquer Byzantium.

I'd presume the original post to be WAD as well, but would be nice to get some opinions first. I haven't played Byzantium myself in ages.

 

[Fawr]

The Byzantine Emperor could access so much more goverment machinery than any other ruler in the middle ages. From tax collectors, to (largely)obedient clergy, to high(er) literacy rates. The Latin Empire (after Crusade IV) didn't get nearly as much benifit from those advantages, and this type of problem is why,

it's not the same to *be* Byzantium and conquer Byzantium.

 

[Mohe]

The Byzantine Emperor could access so much more goverment machinery than any other ruler in the middle ages. From tax collectors, to (largely)obedient clergy, to high(er) literacy rates. The Latin Empire (after Crusade IV) didn't get nearly as much benifit from those advantages, and this type of problem is why,

But what happens if you are some overpowered Duke and you usurp Byzantium, then you get the bonus

 

[Brownbeard]

WAD, it's not the same to *be* Byzantium and conquer Byzantium.

I'd presume the original post to be WAD as well, but would be nice to get some opinions first. I haven't played Byzantium myself in ages.

but with holding the original title that makes it a personal union, like hungary-croatia or poland-lithuania... historically, such unions would even have separate coronations... (even in 19.ct franz josef had one in austria, another in hungary, just remember sissi)

conquering most provinces but being unable to rightfully hold the emperor of byzantium title would be conquest...

 

[Grosshaus]

But what happens if you are some overpowered Duke and you usurp Byzantium, then you get the bonus

According to Johan you get the bonus on that occasion.

 

[gweinel]

According to Johan you get the bonus on that occasion.

Yup! I played that way, and I think it's good. When my count gained to much power he became the Emperor. That decades it was a usual thing the stronger one to claim the throne. That was how Alexius Comnenus, Nicephorus Botaneiatis gained the throne...

 

[Gothmog]

Yup! I played that way, and I think it's good. When my count gained to much power he became the Emperor. That decades it was a usual thing the stronger one to claim the throne. That was how Alexius Comnenus, Nicephorus Botaneiatis gained the throne...

Agreed. I also think that there should definitely be a difference between the "original" Byzantine Empire and the latin one in terms of efficiency of administration.