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Which of these scenarios would you most like to see?

  • Operation Avalanche

    Votes: 28 6,8%
  • Spanish Civil War

    Votes: 111 26,9%
  • The Winter War

    Votes: 48 11,6%
  • Fall Grün

    Votes: 14 3,4%
  • Operation Unthinkable

    Votes: 143 34,6%
  • Operation Downfall

    Votes: 37 9,0%
  • Operation Weserübung

    Votes: 32 7,7%

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DerKomtur

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I voted for Winter War, but that was too fast. Spanish Civil War would be much cooler. In case Paradox implements game mechanics for a proxy war (German, Italian and Soviet intervention), some things turn out more natural. Like Nationalist Spain having and keeping German leaders now, tech / experience gain for the intervening nations.
Proxy war mechanics would also open up modding opportunities for cold war scenarios.
 

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Again, if it's not on the list, then it's probably already implemented.

ups, sorry.

than is Weserübung definitely.

It is the only strategic German naval landing in war,a good chapter to try true and only fight between Kriegsmarine and Royal Navy in Norwegian waters, to try ground battle between German(Austrian)mountain and other troops against British and French Korps there,and for achieving air supremacy over Norway.
Game of cat and mouse.
 

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Weserübung is indeed interesting. But the scale is a bit wrong for HOI3 as it was largely a tactical and operational conflict (although one of the most interesting ever seen). Company sized detachments operating from destroyers, squadron sized air raids. Fallshirmjäger platoons operating on their own (and having an impact) and so forth. Indeed one of the most interesting and challenging operations during WW2 as the forces involved were so small, dispersed and tactics included all military branches in close cooperation. Royal Navy destroyers acting in direct fire roles in a Fjord in turn being fired upon by MGs appeals to the wargamer side in me.
I doubt that it would suit the HOI3 engine well though :(

Then again ALL the scenarios are pretty awesome and I'd love to play all of them. Operation Unthinkable would be really cool in the HOI3 setting so that one and The Winter war are my favorites (haven't decided yet).
 

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Weserübung is indeed interesting. But the scale is a bit wrong for HOI3 as it was largely a tactical and operational conflict (although one of the most interesting ever seen). Company sized detachments operating from destroyers, squadron sized air raids. Fallshirmjäger platoons operating on their own (and having an impact) and so forth. Indeed one of the most interesting and challenging operations during WW2 as the forces involved were so small, dispersed and tactics included all military branches in close cooperation. Royal Navy destroyers acting in direct fire roles in a Fjord in turn being fired upon by MGs appeals to the wargamer side in me.
I doubt that it would suit the HOI3 engine well though :(

Indeed you are right.
1-regiment sized divisions maybee could do (roughly) representing ground operations in Norway ,but air and naval part of operations will be clearly inadequate in representing historical situation.To bad, it was such dinamic and realy interesting area of operations ,with complete Kriegsmarine being one and only time in action there:(
 
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Hmm.....ok....Europa again!
What is with the battle(s) for Phillipinen?
Japanese attack, the americans escaped with MacArthur and later in war, there was a second battle.
Or the japanese attack against Papua-Neuguinea with the large japanese army and navy camps Truk and Rabaul nearby?

Also would be interesting a scenario short after WWII.
The war at the half-island Korea 1950 - 1953.

Last but not least this:
Operation Weserübung, the run over Denmark and Norway during same time with total outnumberd german mountain troops especially in the fight for Narvik.
There fought 1800 german mountain troops and about 1200 navy soldiers against an allied expedition corps constisting of british, french and polish soldiers, at all ca. 22.000 men.

Greetings
 

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About Operation Unthinkable:

I really don't think that it should be a battle scenario. The scope is the worldmap, and it would entice multiple battles.

Militarily, it would have been a disaster for the Allies. The Russians were at their best, experienced troops and better weapons overall. They would have crushed them.
The atomic bomb barely would have played any role in the conflict... what would the Americans have used it on? Most Russians cities were already thoroughly destroyed after the war, with all industry dispersed far inland. Also, the bombs available in 1945, 1946 were much too weak to cause any damage to real cities. European cities are made of stone, not wood and paper like the Japanese houses. The only target would have been Moskva, and I doubt the Allied bombers would have been able to reach that. And if they did, they would've levelled one or two suburbs or boroughs, at best. Bombing troop concentrations would have been useless, what's another 100k casualties for the Russians?

As to how WWIII would have started: Probably the only person who seriously contemplated a war between the Allies and Russia was Stalin himself. What was to stop him from taking more of Germany? Or France, for that matter? Don't think that the Russians had forgotten that the French had tried to conquer them 150 years earlier. Crushing the one million Allied soldiers on the mainland would have been a piece of cake with the millions that he had under arms. It makes you wonder why he stopped. The Allies pretty much tried to appease him, basically giving him everything he wanted (half of Poland!), they even sent people to him to get massacred. Don't think they didn't know what they were doing..
 

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As a final candidate, I would like to propose Unternehmen Sonnenwende. This was the final German operation on the Eastern Front, which could have prolonged the war, if it had been executed properly and timely. Guderian created Heeresgruppe Weichsel, to cut off the overstretched Russian spearhead. If he had succeeded, he might have bought Germany some time to regroup and gain back some of the initiative.
 

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Unthinkable or Winter War. I voted Winter War, because Unthinkable is leading (so it's not like it will lose the polls if I didn't vote for it).
 

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Personally I am not so keen of these battle scenarios and would prefer PI to concentrate on improving the core functions of the game, but if I was to choose one it is the Norwegian Campaign because it involves so many difficulties for both sides and includes many different forms of combat, naval battles, invasions etc and has such high stakes.
 

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Personally I am not so keen of these battle scenarios and would prefer PI to concentrate on improving the core functions of the game, but if I was to choose one it is the Norwegian Campaign because it involves so many difficulties for both sides and includes many different forms of combat, naval battles, invasions etc and has such high stakes.

I agree, but perhaps with a longer timeline then:
Dead Snow
 

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Hmm.....ok....Europa again!
What is with the battle(s) for Phillipinen?
Japanese attack, the americans escaped with MacArthur and later in war, there was a second battle.
Or the japanese attack against Papua-Neuguinea with the large japanese army and navy camps Truk and Rabaul nearby?

Also would be interesting a scenario short after WWII.
The war at the half-island Korea 1950 - 1953.

Last but not least this:
Operation Weserübung, the run over Denmark and Norway during same time with total outnumberd german mountain troops especially in the fight for Narvik.
There fought 1800 german mountain troops and about 1200 navy soldiers against an allied expedition corps constisting of british, french and polish soldiers, at all ca. 22.000 men.

Greetings

Well operation Downfall would be the ultimate showdown for a Pacific theatre scenario IMO so thats at least one scenario I'd love to see.
The Phillipines as well as Burma would make for some interesting battles as well.
 

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What about Stalingrad? You can either retreat from the city and help reinforce the weak allied armies on the flanks or throw all your might into the battle.
 
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