Voice Track Error for Disasters

[Jeffrios]

Hello Paradox/Colossal Order,

Longtime Cities Skylines player here, and I just purchased your Disasters expansion. I am a scientist and Meteorologist here in the USA and I wanted to provide a small correction to your English voice lines that you use in the game.

For a Meteor Strike the female voice warns that astrologists are predicting a Meteor. Astrologists do no track meteors, this word needs to be Astronomers, as they keep track of celestial and near-Earth objects.

For Tornadoes:

A severe Tornado warning has been issued. As a meteorologist at least in the United States, a tornado is in fact defined as severe so this adjective is redundant. According to the National Weather Service and any other Meteorologist I know any warning involving a Tornado is simply: A Tornado Warning has been issued...

By the way, your graphics for the tornado are excellent, nice work for who designed it!!!

Yes, I am being picky but I am just providing my feedback for this great game. I enjoy playing it regardless of these two voice tracks, but being in this profession, every time I hear it I think that its wrong and I need to write you. The game doesn't need to be realistic, but I just want to correct your error. Thanks for hearing my feedback, keep up the good work on Cities Skylines!

 

[MotownCountry]

well instead of saying severe.... maybe use the F code. or is it the EF code now? an EF 1 tornado could be the MAJOR flatten your entire city... and an EF 5 is the tornado that maybe rips the house mailbox from the ground before disappearing....LOL

and then there's the Warning's vs the Watches!

 

[Jeffrios]

well instead of saying severe.... maybe use the F code. or is it the EF code now? ....

The only issue with this is that the EF (Enhanced Fujita) scale rates tornadoes based on how much damage they cause, no one can predict what kind of damage a tornado it will cause before it spawns. An EF - 0 tornado damages trees and a shed. An EF - 3 will severely damage a home. An EF 5 will destroy buildings down to their foundation. In this game, if a tornado hits a building it basically is an instant EF 5. This doesn't bother me because its a city building game, not a tornado simulator.

 

[Kastle117]

As a person studying meteorology, I can not agree with this more. It did bother me a bit, but I didn't really mention it.

By the way, in my thread, I suggested that the tornadoes have better wind effects, i.e. the trees sway with the wind flow, and as for meteor strikes, cars and trees would be affected.

If you don't mind me asking, where did you go to study Meteorology?

 

[Jeffrios]

Iowa State University.

I hope the game designers see this thread. As it's just feedback.

 

[jcitron]

well instead of saying severe.... maybe use the F code. or is it the EF code now? an EF 1 tornado could be the MAJOR flatten your entire city... and an EF 5 is the tornado that maybe rips the house mailbox from the ground before disappearing....LOL

and then there's the Warning's vs the Watches!

Actually it's the other way around.

They use the Enhanced Fujita scale or EF now instead of the Fujita scale or F.

An EF0 will do little or no damage while EF1 can cause some damage. As the scale is open-ended, an EF5 is the worst kind reported so far. These are the tornados that will completely demolish buildings, and really cause injury. The tornado in Joplin MO was an EF4 or EF5. That was strong enough to completely erase houses, and move a brick building - the hospital actually, off its foundation.

A friend of mine runs a storm chasing tour and was in Joplin that day. They stayed around and assisted with the rescue. I've seen tornados on tours as well, but they were very minor or caused little damage.

 

[jcitron]

There's an important point I forgot to mention here. The EF-rating is made after-the-fact and is based on the damage done not on the size or severity of the storm. I know this is a technicality, which we would have to reverse to make the game more interesting, however, because it's after-the-fact in real life you have tornados that have the potential to be an EF5 but because they're out in the middle of nowhere are given an EF0 rating!

 

[Fox_NS_CAN]

The EF-rating is made after-the-fact and is based on the damage done not on the size or severity of the storm.

I've always thought that was a crap way to do it. We'll tell you how bad it is after it is done. Make more sense to rate in on the size/ability to do damage.

On the other hand, before it strikes, people should treat every tornado as if it is the worst tornado ever and take shelter accordingly. You don't want people saying "Well, it doesn't sound that bad, don't worry about it."

after-the-fact in real life you have tornados that have the potential to be an EF5 but because they're out in the middle of nowhere are given an EF0 rating!

If a tornado forms in the woods, does it make a sound?

 

[jcitron]

I've always thought that was a crap way to do it. We'll tell you how bad it is after it is done. Make more sense to rate in on the size/ability to do damage.

On the other hand, before it strikes, people should treat every tornado as if it is the worst tornado ever and take shelter accordingly. You don't want people saying "Well, it doesn't sound that bad, don't worry about it."



If a tornado forms in the woods, does it make a sound?

LOL - that's an old storm chaser joke. In reality it probably does with all the trees snapping and flying about. They work more like weed whackers as the debris flails around the vortex.

And yeah. It seems dumb that they won't say it's going to be an EF-whatever. Then again absolutely! People, I hate to say it, are dumb and lazy. Oh they said it's only going to be an EF1 so I didn't bother to take shelter.

With that in mind, however, there are some new standards from what I was told during last year's storm chase that are in the works to help determine if a tornado is going to have a specific rating. Then as I said what happens if this EF5 tornado hits corn fields? Is it EF5 then? Can they say it's EF5?

What's interesting is the Springfield MA tornado in June 2011 was downgraded from EF4 to EF3. The reason was the type of damage even though it was quite severe. The rumor has it the insurance companies played a big part in this. If the damage rating is higher, then they'll have to pay out more so they think. By keeping the ratings lower, the damage is "less". Lovely!

Anyway .... KS in June 2013

- Reid City EF4, KS now over a field.

- New spin-up a few miles down the road... No damage but cool!

 

[BuckyDee]

Hello Paradox/Colossal Order,

Longtime Cities Skylines player here, and I just purchased your Disasters expansion. I am a scientist and Meteorologist here in the USA and I wanted to provide a small correction to your English voice lines that you use in the game.

For a Meteor Strike the female voice warns that astrologists are predicting a Meteor. Astrologists do no track meteors, this word needs to be Astronomers, as they keep track of celestial and near-Earth objects.

I already reported this on Jan. 25 in the 'Support & Bug Reports' forum folder:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/meteorstrike-ogg.996349/