VIP techs

[LlywelynII]

Is there -any- guide -anywhere- yet to the VIP tech tree?
or the requirements and prereqs for the different factories?

All the readme does is list a series of numbers without saying
the associated tech involved.

Playing as the Ottomans,
I just traded Rodos and Mitelene to the English for Freedom
of Trade and Railroads and -jeez- do I feel cheated, finding
out that now I can make (ta-da) all of canned foods.

jay.

 

[Strategist]

You will get some inventions for more more factories after you got freedom of trade so just wait for them...

 

[unmerged(9404)]

The techtionary is one of your biggest friends when playing Victoria

 

[LlywelynII]

eh -

a. I got some of the events for the factories -
why weren't they all listed in the in-game guide to the tech tree?
The in-game only mentions the ones for woodworking,
oiling and textile.

b. Where did the steel factory get moved to?

c. The techtionary is great - it's just it doesn't apply if the VIPers
go mucking it up. Not that I mind improvements, but a) you all
-haven't- given a guide to the changes that I can find and b)
what sense does it make that -canned goods- are the swift
default?

Shouldn't steel or lumber come first and canned goods be some
side effect of the "canned goods" event that only fires when at
war?

jay.

 

[Generalisimo]

a. I got some of the events for the factories -
why weren't they all listed in the in-game guide to the tech tree?
The in-game only mentions the ones for woodworking,
oiling and textile.

b. Where did the steel factory get moved to?

c. The techtionary is great - it's just it doesn't apply if the VIPers
go mucking it up. Not that I mind improvements, but a) you all
-haven't- given a guide to the changes that I can find and b)
what sense does it make that -canned goods- are the swift
default?

Shouldn't steel or lumber come first and canned goods be some
side effect of the "canned goods" event that only fires when at
war?

jay.

you can read in the readme of VIP where all the factories have gone...

-Heavily edited the "Freedom of Trade" tech and added new inventions for factories:
	377 -> ammunition_factory & explosives_factory
	378 -> fabric_factory, regular_clothes_factory & luxury_clothes_factory
	379 -> paper_mill
	380 -> steel_factory, cement_factory 
	381 -> oil_rig
	382 -> lumber_mill
	383 -> artillery_factory 
	384 -> small_arms_factory
	385 -> furniture_factory & luxury_furniture_factory

they are now tied to inventions instead of directly to the tech Freedom of trade.

 

[LlywelynII]

but... I already said...

-Heavily edited the "Freedom of Trade" tech and added new inventions for factories:
	377 -> ammunition_factory & explosives_factory
	378 -> fabric_factory, regular_clothes_factory & luxury_clothes_factory
	379 -> paper_mill
	380 -> steel_factory, cement_factory 
	381 -> oil_rig
	382 -> lumber_mill
	383 -> artillery_factory 
	384 -> small_arms_factory
	385 -> furniture_factory & luxury_furniture_factory

they are now tied to inventions instead of directly to the tech Freedom of trade.

a. I got some of the events for the factories -
why weren't they all listed in the in-game guide to the tech tree?
The in-game only mentions the ones for woodworking,
oiling and textile.

=)

I -saw- that you tried to explain what you did - but
it -would- be nicer to have names instead of event numbers;
the ingame VIP tech help only lists three of those inventions
under the "Freedom of Trade" description;
there are -more- than three tied to the tech, though, obviously;
only they aren't -all- tied to "Freedom of Trade":
Steel mills, for instance, apparently are tied to some mining tech;
fertilizer factories, I think, are connected to chemistry (although
it might've always been that way for fertilizer?)...

I'm not trying to be disagreeable - I appreciate the time you and
everyone's spent make a good game great. But it seems to me this
is still confusingly done/explained...

jay.

 

[Generalisimo]

=)

I -saw- that you tried to explain what you did - but
it -would- be nicer to have names instead of event numbers;
the ingame VIP tech help only lists three of those inventions
under the "Freedom of Trade" description;
there are -more- than three tied to the tech, though, obviously;
only they aren't -all- tied to "Freedom of Trade":
Steel mills, for instance, apparently are tied to some mining tech;
fertilizer factories, I think, are connected to chemistry (although
it might've always been that way for fertilizer?)...

I'm not trying to be disagreeable - I appreciate the time you and
everyone's spent make a good game great. But it seems to me this
is still confusingly done/explained...

jay.

Those IDs are the NEW inventions that were created for those factories, just that simple.
Here you have their code:

#########################################################################
# Military Industry by Pimparel, modded by Generalisimo
#########################################################################
event = {
	id = 377
	random = no
	invention = yes
	picture = light_armament

	trigger = {
		technology = 5401 # Basic Chemistry
	}

	name = "Military Industry"
	desc = "The organization of the military industry."
	style = 0

	date = { year = 1836 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { year = 1870 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK" # Excellent!
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = ammunition_factory }
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = explosives_factory }
	}
}
#########################################################################
# Textile Industry by Pimparel, modded by Generalisimo
#########################################################################
event = {
	id = 378
	random = no
	invention = yes
	picture = 507

	trigger = {
		technology = 3301 # Freedom of trade
	}

	name = "Textile Industry"
	desc = "The organization of the textile industry."
	style = 0

	date = { year = 1836 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { year = 1860 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK" # Excellent!
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = fabric_factory }
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = regular_clothes_factory }
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = luxury_clothes_factory }
	}
}
#########################################################################
# Publishing Industry by Generalisimo
#########################################################################
event = {
	id = 379
	random = no
	invention = yes
	picture = organisation

	trigger = {
		technology = 5101 # Publishing Industry
	}

	name = "Publishing Industry"
	desc = "The organization of the woodcraft industry."
	style = 0

	date = { year = 1836 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { year = 1860 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK" # Excellent!
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = paper_mill }
		}
}
#########################################################################
# Mining Industry by Pimparel, modded by Generalisimo
#########################################################################
event = {
	id = 380
	random = no
	invention = yes
	picture = 531

	trigger = {
		technology = 5201 # Mechanized mining
	}

	name = "Mining Industry"
	desc = "The organization of the mining industry."
	style = 0

	date = { year = 1836 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { year = 1850 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK" # Excellent!
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = steel_factory }
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = cement_factory }
	}
}
#########################################################################
# Oiling Industry by Pimparel, modded by Generalisimo
#########################################################################
event = {
	id = 381
	random = no
	invention = yes
	picture = oil

	trigger = {
		technology = 3301
	}

	name = "Oiling Industry"
	desc = "The organization of the oiling industry."
	style = 0

	date = { year = 1865 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { year = 1900 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK" # Excellent!
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = oil_rig }
	}
}
#########################################################################
# Wood Industry by Generalisimo
#########################################################################
event = {
	id = 382
	random = no
	invention = yes
	picture = mechanisation

	trigger = {
		technology = 5001 # Water-wheel Power
	}

	name = "Wood Industry"
	desc = "The organization of the wood industry."
	style = 0

	date = { year = 1836 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { year = 1850 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK" # Excellent!
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = lumber_mill }
	}
}
#########################################################################
# Artillery Industry by Generalisimo
#########################################################################
event = {
	id = 383
	random = no
	invention = yes

	picture = military_science

	trigger = {
		technology = 1201 # Bronze Muzzle-loaded Artillery
	}

	name = "Artillery Industry"
	desc = "The organization of the artillery industry."
	style = 0

	date = { year = 1836 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { year = 1870 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK" # Excellent!
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = artillery_factory }
		}
}
#########################################################################
# Arms Industry by Generalisimo
#########################################################################
event = {
	id = 384
	random = no
	invention = yes
	picture = light_armament

	trigger = {
		technology = 1001 # Flintlock Rifles
	}

	name = "Arms Industry"
	desc = "The organization of the arms industry."
	style = 0

	date = { year = 1836 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { year = 1870 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK" # Excellent!
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = small_arms_factory }
		}
}
#########################################################################
# Woodcraft Industry by Pimparel, modded by Generalisimo
#########################################################################
event = {
	id = 385
	random = no
	invention = yes
	picture = organisation

	trigger = {
		technology = 3301 # Freedom of trade
	}

	name = "Woodcraft Industry"
	desc = "The organization of the woodcraft industry."
	style = 0

	date = { year = 1836 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { year = 1860 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK" # Excellent!
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = furniture_factory }
		command = { type = activate_building_type which = luxury_furniture_factory }
	}
}

I was giving you the IDs, so you can go and look for yourself.