Originally posted by Elmokki
If it (Finland) isn't independent in VIP, there'll be couple of good events for the end of the 19th century, when Russia tried to make Finland more Russian.
And again, the own Finnish currency and stuff like happened at the time of the game.
Maybe Finland could get a position of a satellite at some time, when it gets most of its autonomy, but would lose that position when Russia tries to russify Finland.
Originally posted by Grosshaus
Excellent points, I support all of them, but:
Please, head to VIP - Russia thread
Originally posted by Elmokki
Finland still belongs to Scandinavia, but well, maybe this suits better to Russia ^^.
Originally posted by Havard
Ok.I'll shoot: We've got to do something about Sweden owning Norway. Even in 1836 Norway had their own constitution, parliament, prime minister and an army. I see no reason not to make Norway a Swedish satellite from the start...
Eh, no! Norway, Sweden and Denmark sums up to Scandinavia. The Nordic are Scandinavia plus Finland and Iceland.Originally posted by Elmokki
Finland still belongs to Scandinavia, but well, maybe this suits better to Russia ^^.
Originally posted by kullenius
Eh, no! Norway, Sweden and Denmark sums up to Scandinavia. The Nordic are Scandinavia plus Finland and Iceland.
Originally posted by Elmokki
I thought so before my teacher(s) thaught me to think differently.
Originally posted by Dagfinn
But then your teacher is very wrong...
Originally posted by Havard
Ok.I'll shoot: We've got to do something about Sweden owning Norway. Even in 1836 Norway had their own constitution, parliament, prime minister and an army. I see no reason not to make Norway a Swedish satellite from the start...
Originally posted by Galleblære
I'll submit to that. You were a Victoria beta-tester, right? What were the "arguments" the devs used to make Norway a completly integral part? I can easily as Sweden screw Norway royally, so that they have next to no industries when a supposedly war breaks out.
Originally posted by Grosshaus
No own foreign policy was IIRC the main reason.
and the swedish colonies...Originally posted by Galleblære
Then they should have taken the "best of two evils", imo. Having some limied Norwegian diplomacy is better than having all the Norwegian resources and industry giving Sweden income, and use that to build up the Swedish industry.