VIP:R 0.2 for Victoria:Revolutions 2.01 - Discussion and Bugs Thread

[LlywelynII]

UK Industry ranking

Also, was curious about this. Periodically, even though the UK has a five-digit industrial score, for no apparent reason it drops down to #26 or so in the rankings, pulling the UK out of Great Power status.

I save my game and it's fine, but do people know what's causing that?

 

[OHgamer]

This happens when the AI reallocates or shifts POP in and out of factories for either use in other factories or for other uses. Usually lasts only a couple days then ENG will return to its original score. Only bad part is that overall ranking is calculated only once per month on the first day, so if this happens just before the first of the month, ENG will spend a month with a lower overall ranking than it normally would.

If it is happening a lot, it could also be that ENG is dealing with a debt issue and trying to pay off loans it may have used, esp if it was in a long war previously. Debts reduce industrial score until they are paid off.

 

[LlywelynII]

If it is happening a lot,

It is, but it must be the first thing you mentioned, since as far as I know

it could also be that ENG is dealing with a debt issue

would show up in an actual lower or even negative industrial score, and England's has remained steady.

If it fixes itself the next month, that's fine - just noticed it cutting in and out a bunch lately.

 

[unmerged(51332)]

Population exchanges?

I remember the last time I played VIP for Ricky, there was events that would bring Europeans to Africa. Specifically, British, French, and Spanish people would be brought into northern Morocco. I also remember events that would bring French people to Algeria, and perhaps other areas as well. That is not happening- so far. Were the events removed or do they just fire at different times now? I hope they were kept in, because it added another level of authenticity when as France, you would plainly see European settlers move in, and with all the conflict between the Native and European populations, it worked quite well. Now the events seem hollow, as the French population has essentially remained static in Algeria, and non existent elsewhere.

Anyways, so were the events removed? If so, why? Is it possible that someone could give me the events, and tell me where to put them, so I could have them in my version again?

 

[OHgamer]

they are there

VIP_France.txt in scenarios/vipscen/events starting with event 162748. Only caveat is that ALD (Aldjazair) can not exist.

It is a background event though, you will not get a message about it, but they start firing in 1846 and average once every 10 years.

 

[unmerged(106891)]

Chinese Event #137022...

For the name of the action there is a spelling mistake... should be "Foreign devils!" instead of "Foreign devlis!"

 

[Bumbar]

Sugar income

I think you should lower the worth of sugar, as it's earning shitloads of money. I'm playing a game with Haiti, it's 1878 and I bought all of Greater Antilles and some other islands in the Carribean. I'm making around 1000 gold per day, most of it from sugar exports, with population of 10 million. I was making pretty good cash right from the start, after I got initial sugar efficiency techs, but after immigration kicked in and I started buying other sugar islands my incomes shot through the roof. It almost feels like an exploit.

 

[OHgamer]

Sugar is tricky, it was actually a very valuable commodity in the 19th C, but the shift to beet sugar changed where the money was to be made - in refining beet sugar. By 1900, Germany was the largest producer of sugar in the world, and the British were their best customers.

We're still working out the balance so that the sugar islands become less valuable and sugar beet factories become more valuable. But sugar was one of the hot commodities of the 19th C

 

[unmerged(84717)]

Sugar is tricky, it was actually a very valuable commodity in the 19th C, but the shift to beet sugar changed where the money was to be made - in refining beet sugar. By 1900, Germany was the largest producer of sugar in the world, and the British were their best customers.

We're still working out the balance so that the sugar islands become less valuable and sugar beet factories become more valuable. But sugar was one of the hot commodities of the 19th C

While sugar was indeed very desired during that time, currently as it is sugar can make any nation rich in a heartbeat, particularly considering most of the sugar RGO's have high value. Maybe reduce the RGO levels, or make production reductions sharper?

...Buy Cuba and Puerto Rico off Spain, annex Haiti, get some immigration there and all of your financial problems are gone for a while. :wacko:

 

[Hagie Sophia]

scenarios/vipscen/events/VIP_FactoryBuild.txt

event #325115

Yeah, those events are there. I skimmed through and found the appropriate event for many countries.

 

[Bumbar]

I'd suggest the same as V The King. Lower the RGO value in at least some of the sugar provinces and make the events that reduce the effectiveness of sugar RGO's harsher. I tried building a sugar factory around 1890, just to see how much money it's making. It didn't come even close to sugar RGO's. 5 POPs, sized 30-40k, make 13,2 sugar per day in value 5 RGO. If I put 5 POPs of comparable sizes into sugar factory, they make 2,8 sugar per day. Just to put things in perspective, RGO was making 200 £ per day and factory 35 £ per day.

 

[unmerged(81390)]

Does Italy unify if they win the italian revolution? They should, IMHO

 

[Davisx3m]

Hmm i play as Carlist spain and annexed Spain but im still carlist spain? Why? It have been a while.

 

[OHgamer]

Hmm i play as Carlist spain and annexed Spain but im still carlist spain? Why? It have been a while.

you should get an event within a few months to return you to spain.

Note however that this may cause a CTD. We are working on a solution to the issue. One thing I can say is if you have not become Spain yet, save and restart the game, I *think* that should prevent the cause of the CTD from existing.

 

[OHgamer]

Does Italy unify if they win the italian revolution? They should, IMHO

I don't believe that part has been worked out yet. And it would be a rather difficult chain, since post-1848 you'd have 3 strong contenders : Sardinia, Papacy and Two Sicilies. Getting them to agree to subsume their separate identities into one state would have been difficult.

 

[Emp_Palpatine]

If he's speaking about a victory of little italian republics in 1848, I do believe too that republican/revolutionnary countries shall merge into something, and perhaps fight the conservative states.

 

[unmerged(83121)]

Did anyone experience the saves getting corrupted? I played my spanish campaign smoothly until 1902, when Great war occured involving Spain, Portugal, Germany, Italy, British India, UK...

Operation were conducted all over the globe, and during that war my game crashed. Then I restarted from my last save (the beginning of the war), saved several times, and during my saving process game hanged itself. And all saves proved during the war proved to be corrupted also...

I wonder whether it has something with this war (scenario issues) or with my installation being spoiled in some way (I didn`t reinstall the game for ages).

EDIT: by saves getting corrupted I mean that game doesn`t load, and hang on the loading screen.

 

[OHgamer]

Did anyone experience the saves getting corrupted? I played my spanish campaign smoothly until 1902, when Great war occured involving Spain, Portugal, Germany, Italy, British India, UK...

Operation were conducted all over the globe, and during that war my game crashed. Then I restarted from my last save (the beginning of the war), saved several times, and during my saving process game hanged itself. And all saves proved during the war proved to be corrupted also...

I wonder whether it has something with this war (scenario issues) or with my installation being spoiled in some way (I didn`t reinstall the game for ages).

EDIT: by saves getting corrupted I mean that game doesn`t load, and hang on the loading screen.

do you get any error messages? sounds like your savegame itself may have corrupted in the saving process. Do you have an earlier save that you can load up? If not, you may have to do a reinstall, but it's a very odd issue you're reporting.

 

[unmerged(83121)]

There were no error mesages, the game just hanged itself, and was not responding. Yes, I have earlier save that works - I`ll try to play that war again and will make a new saves to check.

And one more issue I encountered earlier - the moment I released Philippines as satellite, my income turned to 5 digit number... And figures of all countries in the ledger changed also to these insane numbers. My daily balance (surplus) was 20 or 40 thousands :wacko: (while my export was not more than 1 thousand). When I saved and reloaded on first day I still had that strange income, but the next day all became normal.

Nothing gamebreaking if not exploited but nevertheless it was strange.

 

[Calantyr]

Sometimes when Vicky is saving your game it cuts off at a random point. See for yourself. Open the corrupted save game and scroll right to the bottom, you'll see a string of random characters and then the file just ends.

Not suprisingly Vicky looks for the information when it tries to load the save but it just isn't there, so it hangs.

The only solution I've found is to have 3+ up-to-date saves at any one time, so that if one of them is cut off there should (hopefully) be at least one that still works.

And yes, this happens with autosaves as well.