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It is understandable. Ethnically Iran and Afghanistan are very very diverse places.

Also... the northwest provinces (The ones bordering AFG) should be pashtun.
 

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Burris said:
It is understandable. Ethnically Iran and Afghanistan are very very diverse places.

Also... the northwest provinces (The ones bordering AFG) should be pashtun.
True....
But what I don't get.... why so many Lurs... yet none in Illam (the capital of Luristan).... And why so few Azerbajainis... Iran is 25% Turk...!
 

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I don't take kindly to the kurds in iran ;-) Mostly becuase they like to meddle in my modernisation processes :rofl:
 

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haven't you sent me those POPs before? or you modded them recently?


i supose these are new...

I modded the first recently, and the two others are news.
I will send all the fiels after i will have completed my last modifications, i will also send to you the first files about the Savoy/Provence and the Algeria.
 

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Burris said:
I dont know if this has been brought up.. i'm sure it has but its worth a shot.

We need Volga Germans! ;-)


There should also be some Kurds/Pagans in Armenia to represent the Kurdish Yezidist population.

Also, in Vladikavkaz (province 1041 IIRC) the Circassians there should be Orthodox not Sunni.

In Kuban, Astrakhan, Kazan and Sevastopol CSVs there should be Tartars (and not Circassians). In Kazan a small part of the Tartars have to be Orthodox and not Sunni (In real life they called the Chuvash).

In Kiev and also in Moscow and S. Petersburg (despite the fact that the Russian Empire didn't allow them to live in these cities) should also be there Jewish POPs.

Also, the people from Perm should be Orthodox not Pagan.
 
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I would like to see the Sunni Serbs in Bosnia changed to Turks. The reason for this is purely gameplay (a seperate culture would be better but hey :)).

They did call themself Turks, which should be reason enough per see :)

This will nicely solve some problems, when AH annekses Bosnia they can fully tolerate the Turks (after the cultuire ahs been added) and not like the Serbs.
The percentage of officiers and aristocrats should be high, they were among the most conservative members of the OE society.
 

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and make sure all catholics are croats.

btw, up to wwii serbs called bosniaks turks. although, a portion of 'the flowers of croatian people might be croat sunni'. since the begs of travnik did call themselves croats ;) :p
 
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and make sure all catholics are croats.

btw, up to wwii serbs called bosniaks turks. although, a portion of 'the flowers of croatian people might be croat sunni'. since the begs of travnik did call themselves croats ;) :p

You mean up to end of WWII :), and from 1990 onward :D

Inteligent men those begs, call yourself croat and the croats will like you.
 

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exactly. return to the flock and all is forgiven. we'll even make you a superstar. you get your to host a tv quiz, get lots of commercial contracts. we'll make you rich and famous. be croat(TM)
 
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exactly. return to the flock and all is forgiven. we'll even make you a superstar. you get your to host a tv quiz, get lots of commercial contracts. we'll make you rich and famous. be croat(TM)

Can I sign thomson songs when I win the handball WC or OC?
 

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if mirza can, so can you. ;)

we are croats. resistance is futile. :eek:
 

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I have reworked POPs in Croatia, Bosnia and Vojvodina...

In short the total population of Croatia will go up for about 10%, and percentage of Croats will go down. There will be small German and Hungarian minorities. Serbs will feature in Karlovac and some other places and will not be only solders...
Does anyone know when did Czech minority moved into western Slavonia? Apparently they came there as railway workers, so that could be a good lead...

Bosnian pop has not changed a lot - few smaller re-distributions (Novi Pazar is over-populated for example..). By far the biggest problem are Bosnian Muslims and their representation in game terms. Bosnian Muslims as it is widely accepted in these forums should be a separate ethnic group, not Serbs and Croats - but dunno what we have to do to get this done?!!

Vojvodina - In short less Serbs, more Hungarians.

I will put these on forum if you would like to see it. Hopefully we will have decision on Bosnian Muslims by then...

Regards,
 

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dtim006 said:
I have reworked POPs in Croatia, Bosnia and Vojvodina...

In short the total population of Croatia will go up for about 10%, and percentage of Croats will go down. There will be small German and Hungarian minorities. Serbs will feature in Karlovac and some other places and will not be only solders...
Does anyone know when did Czech minority moved into western Slavonia? Apparently they came there as railway workers, so that could be a good lead...

Bosnian pop has not changed a lot - few smaller re-distributions (Novi Pazar is over-populated for example..). By far the biggest problem are Bosnian Muslims and their representation in game terms. Bosnian Muslims as it is widely accepted in these forums should be a separate ethnic group, not Serbs and Croats - but dunno what we have to do to get this done?!!

Vojvodina - In short less Serbs, more Hungarians.

I will put these on forum if you would like to see it. Hopefully we will have decision on Bosnian Muslims by then...

Regards,

What can be done is to take one of the unused culture tags (there are a few that I know of) and we can use it to create a "Bosniak" culture if that is what is wanted.
 

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dtim006 said:
Does anyone know when did Czech minority moved into western Slavonia? Apparently they came there as railway workers, so that could be a good lead...

feel free to add both czech and slovak to bjelovar and osijek. their migrations started pretty much the same time as germans rolled down the danube. also, a small jewish pop in osijek might be good. probably german jewish. also, ruthenians in osijek.
 

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Brownbeard said:
feel free to add both czech and slovak to bjelovar and osijek. their migrations started pretty much the same time as germans rolled down the danube. also, a small jewish pop in osijek might be good. probably german jewish. also, ruthenians in osijek.
Be carefull with the POPs that you add... adding a 1K [NOT STATE CULTURE] POP to depict a small settlement doesn't help anyone... and it will be assimilated a month later.
Consider that PLEASE!!!
I do not like to see huge ammount of POPs that are inherited one year later.

An example for you is that spanish and english settlements were NOT included in South America (although some reached 20K) because they dissapeared a year later.
I fear that you are creating the same there...
This is a game, and some things MUST be abstracted. :(
 

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but doesnt A-H have german, hungarian, czech and slovak as it state cultures? only ruthenians should not be added then
 

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Brownbeard said:
but doesnt A-H have german, hungarian, czech and slovak as it state cultures? only ruthenians should not be added then
No, it looks like you have never played VIP. ;)
AH has only south german culture, the rest were remove a LONG time ago.

Also, (not pointing to you, it is a general note) when you recommend a change, you MUST point your sources, if not, a month later another forum member comes and recommends exactly the opposite and we can't decide which one is right... so i have to take the Salomonic decision of deleting both until someone clears the problem (usually no one :(... this has already happened in VIP, people suggest a change and later dissapears, so there is no more feedback on that).
PLEASE, a change on POPs that it is not supported by any source will NOT be included.
 

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dtim006 said:
I have reworked POPs in Croatia, Bosnia and Vojvodina...

In short the total population of Croatia will go up for about 10%, and percentage of Croats will go down. There will be small German and Hungarian minorities. Serbs will feature in Karlovac and some other places and will not be only solders...
Does anyone know when did Czech minority moved into western Slavonia? Apparently they came there as railway workers, so that could be a good lead...

Bosnian pop has not changed a lot - few smaller re-distributions (Novi Pazar is over-populated for example..). By far the biggest problem are Bosnian Muslims and their representation in game terms. Bosnian Muslims as it is widely accepted in these forums should be a separate ethnic group, not Serbs and Croats - but dunno what we have to do to get this done?!!

Vojvodina - In short less Serbs, more Hungarians.

I will put these on forum if you would like to see it. Hopefully we will have decision on Bosnian Muslims by then...

Regards,
What are you using as a base? the POPs in VIP? in which version?
If i remember correctly, those POPs were already changed...
Which are your sources?