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I'm using some events that will fire only during campaigns - though which aren't of the type to set attitudes.

Two existing events of Mettermrck's "House Divided" and "Lincoln-Douglas Debates" have been refitted with a new campaign-based trigger. Here are two new ones...

Code:
#############################################
###  VIP ACW -  prewar trigger event by aprof 

event = { 

      id = 304725
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = 14207
	
      trigger = { NOT = { exists = CSA }
                  campaign = yes
                  random = 15
                  slavery = yes
                }
	
      name = "Democrats Split at Convention"
      desc = "Unable to agree over the platform issue of allowing slavery in the territories, several deep south delegations left the Democratic convention in Charleston.  When it was reconvened in Baltimore, the convention leaders refused to reseat these delegates who went to Richmond where they nominated John C. Breckinridge."
      style = 0

      date = { year = 1858 }
      offset = 30
      deathdate = { year = 1868 }
	
      action_a = {
           name = "We'll just hold our own convention"
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_gone_south value = 1 }
                 }
}

#############################################
###  VIP ACW -  prewar trigger event by aprof 

event = { 

      id = 304726
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = 14207
	
      trigger = { NOT = { exists = CSA }
                  campaign = yes
                  random = 15
                  slavery = yes
                }
	
      name = "Southern Fire-eaters"
      desc = "Within the South, it was seen that abolitionists were in constant assault upon the South. That coupled with the South's ever-decreasing influence in the nation resulted in the rise of increasingly more virulent defenders - the 'fire-eaters.' It was these men more than any other who split the ranks of the Democratic party which allowed the election of Lincoln and led the South to secession. "
      style = 0

      date = { year = 1858 }
      offset = 30
      deathdate = { year = 1868 }
	
      action_a = {
           name = "Be true to your own sense of right"
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_gone_south value = 1 }
                 }
}
 

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The semi-historical events which may push the South over the edge (or in later versions of VIP may be refitted to trigger the secession of NEN) are the "Crittenden Compromise" events.

Since I'm assuming that the Republicans would have a higher chance of rejecting the "Crittenden Compromise" (after all Lincoln did) there are two versions:

Code:
#############################################
###  VIP ACW -  prewar trigger event by aprof     

event = { 

      id = 304727
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = slavery
	
      trigger = { NOT = { exists = CSA }
                  slavery = yes
                  NOT = { ruling_party = 14100 }
                }
	
      name = "Crittenden Compromise"
      desc = "Kentucky Senator John Crittenden presented a resolution which proposed amendments to the constitution which would guarantee slavery in perpetuity, extend slavery to the territories, and restrict Congress from producing legislation restricting interstate slave trade. Perhaps this will reduce tension between North and South."
      style = 0

      date = { year = 1858 }
      offset = 30
      deathdate = { year = 1864 }
	
      action_a = {
           name = "Accept the compromise"
           ai_chance = 50
           command = { type = local_setflag which = flg_crittenden value = 1 }
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_gone_south value = 2 }
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304728 }
                 }
	
      action_b = {
           name = "Reject the compromise"
           ai_chance = 50
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304728 }  
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304729 }
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304730 }
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_gone_south value = 1 }
                 }
}

#############################################
###  VIP ACW -  prewar trigger event by aprof     

event = { 

      id = 304728
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = slavery
	
      trigger = { NOT = { exists = CSA }
                  slavery = yes
                  ruling_party = 14100 
                }
	
      name = "Crittenden Compromise"
      desc = "Kentucky Senator John Crittenden presented a resolution which proposed amendments to the constitution which would guarantee slavery in perpetuity, extend slavery to the territories, and restrict Congress from producing legislation restricting interstate slave trade. Perhaps this will reduce tension between North and South."
      style = 0

      date = { year = 1858 }
      offset = 30
      deathdate = { year = 1864 }
	
      action_a = {
           name = "Accept the compromise"
           ai_chance = 40
           command = { type = local_setflag which = flg_crittenden value = 1 }
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_gone_south value = 2 }
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304727 }
                 }
	
      action_b = {
           name = "Reject the compromise"
           ai_chance = 60
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304727 }
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304729 }  
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304730 }
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_gone_south value = 1 }
                 }
}


#############################################
###  VIP ACW -  prewar trigger event by aprof 

event = { 

      id = 304729
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = slavery
	
      trigger = { local_flag = { name = flg_crittenden value = 1 }
	
      name = "Stronger Fugitive Slave Act"
      desc = "As part of the Crittenden Compromise, the passage of a stronger Fugitive Slave Act has incensed Northern abolitionists who vow to do all in their power to prevent the return of any slave that reaches free territory, and who pledge to work toward repeal of its provisions."
      style = 0

      action_a = {
           name = "An act of perfidious evil"
           command = { type = pop_consciousness which = yankee value = 1 }
           command = { type = pop_consciousness which = dixie value = -1 }
           command = { type = local_setflag which = flg_fsa value = 1 }
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_gone_south value = 1 }
                 }
}

#############################################
###  VIP ACW -  prewar trigger event by aprof 

event = { 

      id = 304730
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = slavery
	
      trigger = { local_flag = { name = flg_crittenden value = 1 }
	
      name = "Crittenden Acts"
      desc = "As part of the Crittenden Compromise, amendments to the United States Constitution which allowing slavery in the territories and prohibiting restrictions on interstate slave trade have been put before the people."
      style = 0

      action_a = {
           name = "Accept these proposals"
           command = { type = pop_consciousness which = yankee value = 2 }
           command = { type = pop_consciousness which = dixie value = -1 }
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_gone_south value = 1 }
                 }

      action_b = {
           name = "Reject these proposals"
           command = { type = pop_consciousness which = yankee value =-1 }
           command = { type = pop_consciousness which = dixie value = 2 }
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_gone_south value = 2 }
                 }
}
 

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As noted in an earlier post, Aragos' scheme works well to have the border states very close to joining the CSA. If Kentucky is on the cusp, these events would happen:

Code:
#################################################
###  VIP ACW - civil war political event by aprof 

event = { 

      id = 304731
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = ciwilwar_flags
	
      trigger = { exists = CSA 
                  war = { country = USA country = CSA }
                  random = 50
                  local_flag = { name = flg_secedes_kentucky value = 40 }
                  NOT = { local_flag = { name = flg_secedes_kentucky value = 50 } }
                }
	
      name = "Kentucky Declares Neutrality"
      desc = "With the governor of Kentucky pro-secession and the state legislature unionist, Kentucky has issued a declaration of neutrality."
      style = 0

      date = { year = 1856 }
      offset = 30
      deathdate = { year = 1880 }

      action_a = {
           name = "Give Kentucky some time to work things out"
           command = { }
                 }
	
      action_b = {
           name = "Press Kentucky to declare"
           command = { type = setflag which = flg_neutral_ky value = 1 }
}

#################################################
###  VIP ACW - civil war political event by aprof     

event = { 

      id = 304732
      random = no
       	
      trigger = { flag = { name = flg_neutral_ky value = 1 }
                  random = 35
                }
	
      name = "Kentucky Replies"
      desc = "Our representatives have returned from presenting our case to the legislature of Kentucky."
      style = 0

      date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1856 }
      offset = 15
      deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
	
      action_a = {
           name = "You'll have our answer"
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_secede_kentucky value = 5 } 
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304733 } 
                }
}
	
#################################################
###  VIP ACW - civil war political event by aprof     

event = { 

      id = 304733
      random = no
       	
      trigger = { flag = { name = flg_neutral_ky value = 1 }
                  random = 35
                }
	
      name = "Kentucky Replies"
      desc = "Our representatives have returned from presenting our case to the legislature of Kentucky."
      style = 0

      date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1856 }
      offset = 15
      deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
	

      action_a = {
           name = "You'll have our answer"
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_secede_kentucky value = -5 }  
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304732 }
                 }
}

The CSA can start the ball rolling in Kentucky too

Code:
#################################################
###  VIP ACW - civil war political event by aprof 

event = { 

      id = 146700
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = ciwilwar_flags
	
      trigger = { exists = CSA 
                  random = 50
                  local_flag = { name = flg_secedes_kentucky value = 40 }
                  NOT = { local_flag = { name = flg_secedes_kentucky value = 50 } }
                }
	
      name = "Kentucky Declares Neutrality"
      desc = "With the governor of Kentucky pro-secession and the state legislature unionist, Kentucky has issued a declaration of neutrality."
      style = 0

      date = { year = 1856 }
      offset = 30
      deathdate = { year = 1880 }

      action_a = {
           name = "Give Kentucky some time to work things out"
           command = { }
                 }
	
      action_b = {
           name = "Press Kentucky to declare"
           command = { type = setflag which = flg_neutral_ky value = 1 }
                 }
}

Basically, you'll get your answer when the "Kentucky Secedes" box pops up.
 

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Maryland has a slightly different situation.

Code:
#################################################
###  VIP ACW - civil war political event by aprof 

event = { 

      id = 304734
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = ciwilwar_flags
	
      trigger = { exists = CSA 
                  war = { country = USA country = CSA }
                  local_flag = { name = flg_secede_maryland value = 35 }
                  NOT = { local_flag { name = flg_secede_maryland value = 45 } }
                }
	
      name = "Maryland Mob Interferes with Federal Troops"
      desc = "An angry mob of pro-Southern sympathizers in Baltimore began jeering and throwing rocks and bottles at a Pennsylvania regiment en route through the city. The colonel, feering for his troops safety, had his men fire on the mob.  The situation is near to riot."
      style = 0

      date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1856 }
      offset = 30
      deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
	
      action_a = {
           name = "Send in the army"
           command = { type = local_setflag which = flg_neutral_md value = 1 }
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304737 }
                 }
	
      action_b = {
           name = "Let things calm down"
           command = { type = local_setflag which = flg_neutral_md value = 1 }  
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304736 }
                 }
}

#################################################
###  VIP ACW - civil war political event by aprof 

event = { 

      id = 304735
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = ciwilwar_flags
	
      trigger = { local_setflag = { name = flg_neutral_md value = 1 }
                  random = 45
                }
	
      name = "The Maryland Mob"
      desc = "We may have the situation in Baltimore back under control."
      style = 0

      date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1856 }
      offset = 10
      deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
	
      action_a = {
           name = "Maintain your vigil"
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_secede_maryland value = -5 }
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304736 }
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304737 }
                 }
}

#################################################
###  VIP ACW - civil war political event by aprof   

event = { 

      id = 304736
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = ciwilwar_flags
	
      trigger = { local_flag = { name = flg_neutral_md value = 1 }
                  random = 20
                }
	
      name = "Rioting in Maryland"
      desc = "We have a situation here."
      style = 0

      date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1856 }
      offset = 10
      deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
	
      action_a = {
           name = "Get that house in order"
           command = { type = revolt which = dixie value = irregular where = 587 }
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_secede_maryland value = -5 }
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304735 }
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304737 }
                 }
}

#################################################
###  VIP ACW - civil war political event by aprof   

event = { 

      id = 304737
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = ciwilwar_flags
	
      trigger = { local_flag = { name = flg_neutral_md value = 1 }
                  random = 25
                }
	
      name = "Rioting in Maryland"
      desc = "We have a situation here."
      style = 0

      date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1856 }
      offset = 10
      deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
	
      action_a = {
           name = "Get that house in order"
           command = { type = revolt which = dixie value = irregular where = 587 }
           command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_secede_maryland value = -3 }
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304735 }
           command = { type = sleepevent which = 304736 }
                 }
}
 

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Missouri might be close to seceding:

Code:
#################################################
###  VIP ACW - civil war political event by aprof   

event = { 

      id = 304738
      random = no
      country = USA

      picture = ciwilwar_flags
	
      trigger = { exists = CSA 
                  war = { country = USA country = CSA }
                  local_flag = { name = flg_secede_missouri value = 35 }
                  NOT = { local_flag { name = flg_secede_missouri value = 45 } }
                } 

      name = "Missouri Maintains Neutrality"
      desc = "The pro-secessionist governor, Claiborne Jackson, has ordered the state militia to stand ready. Our regiment in St. Louis under Harney is on guard for any attempt by rebel troops to seize federal property."
      style = 0

      date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1856 }
      offset = 30
      deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
	
      action_a = {
           name = "Maintain your vigil"
           command = { type = setflag which = flg_neutral_mo value = 1 }
                 }
}

As noted before, I've re-triggered the "Nathaniel Lyons" event to work to determine Missouri's fate. If "Lyons" triggers before the parallel CSA event...

Code:
################################################
###  VIP ACW - civil war military event by aprof     

event = { 

      id = 146701
      random = no
      country = CSA

      picture = csa_uniforms
	
      trigger = { flag = { name = flg_neutral_mo value = 1 } 
                  random = 50
                }
	
      name = "Governor Jackson Calls Out the Militia"
      desc = "The governor of Missouri has ordered the state militia to take up positions to defend the state against Federal invasion."
      style = 0

      date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1856 }
      offset = 15
      deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
	
      action_a = {
           name = "I like his initiative"
                command = { type = local_incflag which = flg_secede_missouri value = 5 }
                command = { type = add_division which = infantry when = 554 }
                command = { type = sleepevent which = 304637 }
                 }
}

...Missouri stays Union. If "Governor Jackson Calls out the Militia" fires first, then the CSA gets a free division in Missouri that might stall some of the North's early offensive.
 

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Finally, I've added a flag to the existing "Southern Home Guards" event. If the USA player allows the South to form militia units, then the CSA will get this event:

Code:
################################################
###  VIP ACW - civil war military event by aprof     

event = { 

      id = 146702
      random = no
      country = CSA

      picture = csa_uniforms
	
      trigger = { flag = { name = flg_csa_militia value = 1 } 
                  war = { country = CSA country = USA }
                } 
	
      name = "Muster of the Home Guard"
      desc = "We should call out the state militias."
      style = 0

      date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1856 }
      offset = 30
      deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
	
      action_a = {
           name = "Sound the call"
                ai_chance = 75
                command = { type = add_division which = irregular }
                command = { type = add_division which = irregular }
                command = { type = clrflag which = flg_csa_militia }
                 }

      action_b = {
           name = "Have them learn to march"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = build_division which = infantry }
                command = { type = build_division which = infantry }
                command = { type = clrflag which = flg_csa_militia }
                 }
}

That's the new events in the ACW. Gotta go, I need to run some handsoff and USA games through the onset of the ACW the rest of today and tomorrow. :D
 

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Very impressive, Aprof. I was wondering if, in the Democrats split at Convention event, you could wake the Southern Democrats party? An event for the Constitutional Union gang might fit in that path somewhere, though I know one or two of the parties seem to have trouble winning.

I especially love the Crittenden path. I had always envisioned a Crittenden Compromise as a measure that is passed after southern secession begins (meaning CSA is in existence). Thus, you have the Compromise, it passes, and then the historical Peace Conference (February 4, 1861) occurs and has some teeth to it (with government offers on the table, the Deep South delegates might actually show up), and the country is brought back together before a civil war breaks out. Is this conceivable or do the triggers go too rapidly once South Carolina goes under Aragos' mod?

If so, then a Peace Conference event can still be a plausible option I think. And I take it that by going down the Crittenden route (strong fugitive act, 13th (Slavery) Amendment), the risk of NEN secession increases tenfold?
 

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Mettermrck said:
Very impressive, Aprof. I was wondering if, in the Democrats split at Convention event, you could wake the Southern Democrats party? An event for the Constitutional Union gang might fit in that path somewhere, though I know one or two of the parties seem to have trouble winning.

I especially love the Crittenden path. I had always envisioned a Crittenden Compromise as a measure that is passed after southern secession begins (meaning CSA is in existence). Thus, you have the Compromise, it passes, and then the historical Peace Conference (February 4, 1861) occurs and has some teeth to it (with government offers on the table, the Deep South delegates might actually show up), and the country is brought back together before a civil war breaks out. Is this conceivable or do the triggers go too rapidly once South Carolina goes under Aragos' mod?

If so, then a Peace Conference event can still be a plausible option I think. And I take it that by going down the Crittenden route (strong fugitive act, 13th (Slavery) Amendment), the risk of NEN secession increases tenfold?

ATM, the "Crittenden Compromise" is one of the events that might trigger the South's secession. I'm working on this in steps. Getting the variable start of the ACW was first, and I think I've done it.

Now I need some additional post-'61 events so that the war can start after all the present events are past. In the scheme so far, they may not all fire which is good.

But I wonder if once the war has started is it too hard to get around the game's coded ferocity between the USA and CSA? A compromise or peace event right at the start may seem false to the player who doesn't know of the "Crittenden Compromise."

BTW: in one handsoff game I had NEN form. It was just Rhode Island and it lasted all of a week, but it was there.

EDIT: I'll post the relevant ACW and CSA tweak/ new files at VIP - NA for you.
 

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Ok, here's my Panic of 1837 path, based on what aprof was doing with 1857. Essentially, there's more of a lead-in in 1836-1837. A Wildcat Banks event sets up the flag and then the Specie Circular event is now a choice which can affect the severity of the panic. Going with the historical choice brings the historical panic, while avoiding the Circular means a severe Panic. Most players in their right minds will go with choice A. I put a few negatives in choice A and a few positives in choice B to sort of make it more palatable. :)

Also, as part of my future central bank path, chosing choice B brings up the severe Panic of 1837 (along the lines of Aprof's different 1857 Panics), which then brings up the Reregulation event that makes a Central Bank possible. If a National Bank is restored (not going to be easy to do of course), it will be very helpful in minimizing some of the later panics that I work on (1873, 1893, and 1907). I'm not sure if it would be in place by 1857 but it might.

Code:
###########################################
# Wildcat Banks by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
###########################################
event = { 
         id = 304aaa
         random = no
         country = USA

         picture = market_regulations

	 trigger = { random = 25 }

         name = "Wildcat Banks"
         desc = "By 1836, all banks in the United States were state chartered 
banks. Out in the frontier states, some of these banks were called wildcat 
banks. Wildcat bankers were men of unscrupulous means who would obtain a 
state bank charter, issue notes and spend them and then do everything 
possible to keep from having to redeem them. Sometimes he would hide out 
in small unheard of towns at the edge of the frontier with the wild animals 
hence the name wildcat bank. Usually these bankers did not last long and 
caused a flurry of dangerous land speculation in the 1830s."
         style = 0
         date = { month = february year = 1836 }

         action_a = {
                     name = "Drat those bankers!"
		    command = { type = setflag which = flg_panic37 value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_cash which = yankee value = -25 }
                    command = { type = pop_cash which = dixie value = -25 }
		    command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = 1 }
                     }
}

#############################################
# Specie Circular by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
#############################################
event = { 
         id = 304423
         random = no
         country = USA
         trigger = { ruling_party = 14101 }

         picture = market_regulations

	 trigger = { random = 25 }

         name = "Specie Circular"
         desc = "Without a national bank, the flood of paper money and land 
speculation in the United States increased, and in an attempt combat this, 
President Jackson issued the Specie Circular, which mandated that land 
purchases could only be made in specie payments, or gold and silver."
         style = 0
         date = { month = march year = 1836 }
	 deathdate = { month = march year = 1837 }

         action_a = {
                     name = "Curtail land speculation!"
                     command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 10 value = interventionism }
                     command = { type = pop_militancy which = capitalists value = 1 }
		     command = { type = sleepevent which = 3044xx }
                     }

	 action_b = {
                     name = "Paper money is acceptable"
                     command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 10 value = laissez_faire }
                     command = { type = pop_consciousness which = capitalists value = 1 }
		     command = { type = pop_militancy which = farmers value = -1 }
		     command = { type = sleepevent which = 304424 }
                     }
}


########################################################
# Panic of 1837 (historical) by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
########################################################
event = { 
         id = 304424
         random = no
         country = USA

         picture = monetarysystem

	 trigger = { flag = { name = flg_panic37 value = 1 } 
	 random = 35

         name = "Panic of 1837"
         desc = "New York banks began refusing to make specie payments in 
early 1837, and the bubble of land speculation and paper money in the United 
States finally burst, leading to a collapse of the nation's finances and an 
onset of depression."
         style = 0
         date = { day = 10 month = may year = 1837 }

         action_a = {
                    name = "A national crisis!"
                    command = { type = treasury value = -5000 }
                    command = { type = pop_consciousness which = capitalists value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_consciousness which = craftsmen value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_consciousness which = labourers value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_consciousness which = clerks value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_militancy which = yankee value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_militancy which = dixie value = 1 }
		    command = { type = treasury value = -1000 }
                    command = { type = pop_cash which = yankee value = -250 }
                    command = { type = pop_cash which = dixie value = -250 }
                    command = { type = loan_interest_rate value = 2 }
                    command = { type = tariff_eff value = -2 }
                    command = { type = tax_eff value = -2 }
                    command = { type = trigger which = 213192 }
                    command = { type = sleepevent which = 304yyy }
                    }
}

##################################################
# Panic of 1837 (hard) by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
##################################################
event = { 
         id = 304xxx
         random = no
         country = USA

         picture = monetarysystem
	
	 trigger = { flag = { name = flg_panic37 value = 1 } 
	 random = 35

         name = "Panic of 1837"
         desc = "New York banks began refusing to make specie payments in 
early 1837, and the bubble of land speculation and paper money in the United 
States finally burst, leading to a collapse of the nation's finances and an 
onset of depression."
         style = 0
         date = { day = 10 month = may year = 1837 }

         action_a = {
                    name = "A national crisis!"
                    command = { type = treasury value = -5000 }
                    command = { type = pop_consciousness which = capitalists value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_consciousness which = craftsmen value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_consciousness which = labourers value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_consciousness which = clerks value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_militancy which = yankee value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_militancy which = dixie value = 1 }
                    command = { type = pop_cash which = yankee value = -100 }
                    command = { type = pop_cash which = dixie value = -100 }
                    command = { type = loan_interest_rate value = 2 }
                    command = { type = tariff_eff value = -2 }
                    command = { type = tax_eff value = -2 }
                    command = { type = trigger which = 213192 }
                    }
}

##########################################
# Reregulation by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
##########################################
event = { 
         id = 304yyy
         random = no
         country = USA

         picture = monetarysystem

	 random = 20

         name = "Reregulation"
         desc = "The harshness of the Panic of 1837 caused many in the United 
States to place the blame with the Jackson Administration and its failure to 
renew the charter of the Second National Bank. A central bank, it was 
argued, would have had the clout and financial resources to intervene in a 
crisis such as this. Amidst the harsh times of the Panic, pressure was brought 
to bear on the President to issue some kind of statement endorsing a 
reevaluation of the banking system and its regulation in order to reassure 
investors."
         style = 0
         date = { month = june year = 1839 }
	 deathdate = { month = november year = 1840 }

         action_a = {
                     name = "We can conduct a review, but no National Bank!"
                     command = { type = pop_consciousness which = capitalists value = 1 }
                     command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = 1 }
		     command = { type = sleepevent which = 304425 }
                     }

         action_b = {
                     name = "Jackson was right! Banks are the scourge of the common man!"
                     command = { type = pop_consciousness which = capitalists value = 1 }
                     command = { type = pop_consciousness which = aristocrats value = 1 }
     		     command = { type = sleepevent which = 304zzz }
                     }
         action_c = {
                     name = "Perhaps we were a bit too hasty."
                     command = { type = pop_consciousness which = labourers value = 1 }
                     command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = 1 }
		     command = { type = pop_militancy which = farmers value = 1 }
		     command = { type = prestige value = 2 }
		     command = { type = sleepevent which = 304425 }
                     }
}


##########################################################
# Nation Recovers (historical) by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
##########################################################
event = { 
         id = 304425
         random = no
         country = USA

         picture = monetarysystem

         name = "Nation Recovers"
         desc = "Gradually, after a six-year depression, the United States 
slowly recovered from the financial Panic of 1837."
         style = 0
         date = { month = june year = 1843 }

         action_a = {
                     name = "Things are slowly returning to normal"
                     command = { type = pop_militancy which = yankee value = -1 }
                     command = { type = pop_militancy which = dixie value = -1 }
		     command = { type = loan_interest_rate value = -2 }
                     command = { type = tariff_eff value = 2 }
                     command = { type = tax_eff value = 2 }
                     }
}

#########################################################
# Nation Recovers (shortened) by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
#########################################################
event = { 
         id = 304zzz
         random = no
         country = USA

         picture = monetarysystem

         name = "Nation Recovers"
         desc = "Gradually, after a five-year depression, the United States 
slowly recovered from the financial Panic of 1837."
         style = 0
         date = { month = june year = 1842 }

         action_a = {
                     name = "Things are slowly returning to normal"
                     command = { type = pop_militancy which = yankee value = -1 }
                     command = { type = pop_militancy which = dixie value = -1 }
		     command = { type = pop_cash which = yankee value = 50 }
                     command = { type = pop_cash which = dixie value = 50 }
		     command = { type = loan_interest_rate value = -2 }
                     command = { type = tariff_eff value = 2 }
                     command = { type = tax_eff value = 2 }
                     }
}
 

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aprof said:
Looks good Met. More gaming goodness for the USA player to look forward to in v04.

Thanks, chief. :) I will leave it to your good graces to assign event IDs since I have no earthly what when where the current ID list is on the beta group. When you do assign IDs, I can go ahead and edit any command lines within the events themselves to make it easier for ya. ;)
 

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Mettermrck said:
Thanks, chief. :) I will leave it to your good graces to assign event IDs since I have no earthly what when where the current ID list is on the beta group. When you do assign IDs, I can go ahead and edit any command lines within the events themselves to make it easier for ya. ;)

Will do. :)
 

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@Metternick & Apof

Absolutely love the new events, I assume we will see them in 0.4?

One thing ive noticed, though ive heard no one else say it, is how its virtually impossible for the CSA to beat the USA in the VIP GC Senario. Usually because the USA has dozens and dozens of divisions to start with, and THEN gets the 90 day militia event, and the 300,000 more events.....

I simply cant beat them, even on easy...

The events make it Fun to try though :)

#Edit Btw, is it possible to change the choice "Strategic defense or offensive" to allow a third option 'Leave things the way they are.' There are simply times when I want offensive, and when I Need defensive...., and I dont see a trigger changing it back to normal for when the war is over (if I theoreticly ever beat it)
 

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ngcbum said:
@Metternick & Apof

Absolutely love the new events, I assume we will see them in 0.4?

The financial ones, yes. The ACW ones will be in 03 - though I scrapped one or two of those as not working the way they should. But we ended up adding several others that haven't been posted here.

One thing ive noticed, though ive heard no one else say it, is how its virtually impossible for the CSA to beat the USA in the VIP GC Senario. Usually because the USA has dozens and dozens of divisions to start with, and THEN gets the 90 day militia event, and the 300,000 more events.....

I simply cant beat them, even on easy...

The events make it Fun to try though :)

We're working on making the ACW less of a sure thing for the USA. Independence for the CSA will still be a hard thing to accomplish though. We've tweaked many ACW events for 03 and will be tweaking more for 04.

#Edit Btw, is it possible to change the choice "Strategic defense or offensive" to allow a third option 'Leave things the way they are.' There are simply times when I want offensive, and when I Need defensive....

Phrases like "You pays yer money and you takes yer chances" and "only one to a customer" :D come to mind. But good point: we can probably add the third option.

and I dont see a trigger changing it back to normal for when the war is over (if I theoreticly ever beat it)

And we ought to have one, but given the tendancy of the USA to wait till the peace treaty expires and starts all over again, the likely triggers to use...

Code:
NOT = { war = {country = USA country = CSA }

atwar = no

peace_treaty = { country = CSA country = USA }

won_war = { country = CSA country = USA }

...would cause the event to fire in the inter-war years and the CSA would be at a greater disadvantage in the second round. :) But I'll work on that.
 

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Comrade Trotsky said:
Not sure where to post this, and want to know if there's anything wrong with it {I'm still new at this}.

Code:
#  The French Invasion?
#########################################################################
event = {
	id = XXXXXX
	random = no
	country = USA

	trigger = {
		atwar = no
		event = 162216
		exists = MEX
		war = { country = MEX country = FRA }
		relation = { country = MEX data = 0 }
		NOT = {
			alliance = { country = USA country = MEX }
		}
		NOT = {
			peace_treaty = { country = USA country = FRA }
			
	}

	name = "The French Break The Monroe Doctrine"
	desc = "After a French pastry chef's shop is destroyed in Mexico, King Louis Philippe demands recompensation from the Mexican government. The Mexican government refuses and the French blockade Veracruz. This touches off a full-scale war between the French and the Mexicans. French action now violates the Monroe Doctrine, according to most Democrats and an increasing number of Whigs. "
	style = 0

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1836 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1850 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Ought we not, then, to adopt every measure which may be necessary to perpetuate them?" # Enforce the Monroe Doctrine
		command = { type = alliance which = MEX }
                          command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = farmers value = jingoism}
                          command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = labourers value = jingoism} 
                         command = { type = relation which = MEX value = 100}
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "A war over pastries? The French and the Mexicans deserve it!" # Ignore
		command = { type = prestige value = -20 }
		command = { type = relation which = MEX value = -100}
	             command = { type = pop_militancy which = officers value = 2 }
                         	}
}

Comrade, I've taken a copy of your event and will post it where we can add it for testing and inclusion in VIP v04. :)
 

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Hm. Just starting playing Mexico with VIP (as some of the more observant may have noticed). Two things;

Mexico has NO craftsmen, just clerks. This makes things difficult. Come on... even Tunisia has craftsmen. Is this intentional?

Several events relating to Texas seem to be purely date based. For example I'm smashing the dirty little rebs and then suddenly I'm beaten at the Battle of San Jacinto! Worse, I noticed the Europeans recognising Texas, despite the fact that it's an undisputed part of Mexico, and the event representing the Texas/Mexico border dispute and the USA triggered anyway.
 

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Golden_Deliciou said:
Hm. Just starting playing Mexico with VIP (as some of the more observant may have noticed). Two things;

Mexico has NO craftsmen, just clerks. This makes things difficult. Come on... even Tunisia has craftsmen. Is this intentional?

Several events relating to Texas seem to be purely date based. For example I'm smashing the dirty little rebs and then suddenly I'm beaten at the Battle of San Jacinto! Worse, I noticed the Europeans recognising Texas, despite the fact that it's an undisputed part of Mexico, and the event representing the Texas/Mexico border dispute and the USA triggered anyway.

The lack of craftsmen in Mexico is (iirc) present in vanilla Vicky. We'll take a look at it.

In regard to San Jacinto, historically the Mexicans were stomping the Texans (an episode that historically was called the "runaway scrape" by Texans), up until Santa Anna allowed his whole army to take a siesta without posting any sentries, at which point his army was overrun by the Texans. In VIP, however, it is planned to make the battle of San Jacinto less determinate. This may not happen until 0.3b, though. (Assuming that we stick to our plan of releasing an 0.3b to fix bugs and add tweaks after 0.3 is released.) The change will probably involve having the San Jacinto event fire only if Texas has lost San Antonio and then retakes it.

European recognition of Texas when Texas doesn't exist is a bug, and should be fixed in 0.3 (hopefully). Same with the Texas/Mexico border dispute.
 

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Theodotus1 said:
The lack of craftsmen in Mexico is (iirc) present in vanilla Vicky. We'll take a look at it.

Yes, this is from vanilla Vic.

We've added a chain of events for an early industrialization program which has training of craftsmen POPs as part of the chain.

Otherwise, you'll have to buy some paper, precious_metal, tobacco, coffee, etc and promote a farmer/labourer POP to craftsmen.
 

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Theodotus1 said:
In regard to San Jacinto, historically the Mexicans were stomping the Texans (an episode that historically was called the "runaway scrape" by Texans), up until Santa Anna allowed his whole army to take a siesta without posting any sentries, at which point his army was overrun by the Texans. In VIP, however, it is planned to make the battle of San Jacinto less determinate. This may not happen until 0.3b, though. (Assuming that we stick to our plan of releasing an 0.3b to fix bugs and add tweaks after 0.3 is released.) The change will probably involve having the San Jacinto event fire only if Texas has lost San Antonio and then retakes it.

That sounds good.

European recognition of Texas when Texas doesn't exist is a bug, and should be fixed in 0.3 (hopefully). Same with the Texas/Mexico border dispute.

Brilliant!