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If we do AI England and put it onlimits, how come you are suggesting that its european parts are kept offlimits?

I am more inclined to ghost it to the end of the game. I see little purpose in allowing people to go AI-raping at this point.

Because if someone annexes european england we might see a beast... in regards to manpower. And the same applying to ship support limit.

The Colonies... It doesnt influence shit.

And the AI will without doubt embargo pretty much everyone. And if people want to grab a few provinces from the AI, from its colonies, why not let em? It is 3 BB per province, and apart from the COTs, the AI is full of crap. It will actually cause more harm. And apart from Poland-Sweden-Prussia, no one else is protestant. And to be frank, from amongst these, only Sweden is actually capable to taking provinces from England.

If you do not permit anyone to vassalize England and if you put it offlimits only in Europe, i dont see what harm could be done.
 

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Because if someone annexes european england we might see a beast... in regards to manpower. And the same applying to ship support limit.

The Colonies... It doesnt influence shit.

And the AI will without doubt embargo pretty much everyone. And if people want to grab a few provinces from the AI, from its colonies, why not let em? It is 3 BB per province, and apart from the COTs, the AI is full of crap. It will actually cause more harm. And apart from Poland-Sweden-Prussia, no one else is protestant. And to be frank, from amongst these, only Sweden is actually capable to taking provinces from England.

If you do not permit anyone to vassalize England and if you put it offlimits only in Europe, i dont see what harm could be done.
Well... from this argumentation... it would seem there is little to no point at all in dowing England, so why not ghost it and be rid of its merchants and whatnot.
 

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There might be some point in attacking England. For example, if i was France, i would be pissed if England owned historical provinces in the USA and if i could not conquer them... because the best events regarding the revolution in france require USA to exist...

And as Venice, i am also interested in adquiring 3 provinces England owns in South Africa... Spain, possibly also wants something to fullfill his heart desires... i dont know. Making it all offlimits doesnt seem fair. Putting just the european provinces offlimits wont have any effect regarding manpower and ship support... which is what matters.
 

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Well... from this argumentation... it would seem there is little to no point at all in dowing England, so why not ghost it and be rid of its merchants and whatnot.

i agree with mats, ai england will stil embargo in london & send merchants
altho US should be released to alow revolution to hit europe to
 

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Maybe someone from Stockholm would like to move to London? :) Polish army can help with furnitures if one decide to go ;)
 

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If ear is moving to england i want my provinces in south africa edited back to me.
 

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Than you ask Ear what he want to do before Bonte is en route again ;)
 

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Being vassal of France is BORING! BORING! BORING!!!
 

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Silence, HAL... Vassals shouldnt be allowed to even speak. :p

Goddamnit, so much for a 1v1 Cicero. Gotta attack me after i ate Fred, after having no manpower and after being completely exhausted from the war. In other words, when i had my pants down. I will try to retribute the favour.

On a side note, i did kill Bonte, and what satisfaction did that bring to me! Haha, "the Lion of the North"... was no match for the Lion of the South. :rofl:

But i do start regretting having killed Frederick II. My sixth sense was alarming me that Drake was going to attack me by the time he asked to be banned from the alliance. ;)
 

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Silence, HAL... Vassals shouldnt be allowed to even speak. :p

Goddamnit, so much for a 1v1 Cicero. Gotta attack me after i ate Fred, after having no manpower and after being completely exhausted from the war. In other words, when i had my pants down. I will try to retribute the favour.

On a side note, i did kill Bonte, and what satisfaction did that bring to me! Haha, "the Lion of the North"... was no match for the Lion of the South. :rofl:

But i do start regretting having killed Frederick II. My sixth sense was alarming me that Drake was going to attack me by the time he asked to be banned from the alliance. ;)

hehe
 

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for the record,

france apoligizes for any nap broken in the passed, i kinda feel bad for those actions and ill work on avoiding that issue in the future (inc during nappoleon)

also im open for diplomacy as france feels it needs to review its policy in general
 

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Odd session, but fun with lots of wars. First a frustratingly hard one, eventually ending in one province won, but could have gone better. Sold my damn colonies who were a pain in the ass concerning warscore. Second war went better, because we were more calm (and had no colonies). Already after three Dutch provs occupied we stabhit France for Luxemburg twice, and then for Elsass, Luxemburg and Trier twice. Eventually after drake came to his senses we agreed to a NAP for 10 years and Trier, Pfaltz and Elsass. At least I zeroed out on provinces this session. Four new CCs from Venice were nice as well.
 

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I am still waiting someone to tell me why we made a reload... Because from what i understood, the reload was to give Cicero his warship fleet and his 400.000 men back, in order to aid Drake fight Germany. And because Drake peaced Austria by mistake with the latest save.

Cicero doesnt aid Drake after we reload, Drake doesnt fight Germany and peaces, and in the end attacks Venice.

Why the reload? And why is Drake so pissed at EGO? Can someone here explain that to me... In a civil mode?

P.S: Shouldnt i be the one pissed because Spain was given 1000 warships and 400.000 cheaply back, and because Drake broke... again... his NAP with Venice?
 

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I am still waiting someone to tell me why we made a reload... Because from what i understood, the reload was to give Cicero his warship fleet and his 400.000 men back, in order to aid Drake fight Germany. And because Drake peaced Austria by mistake with the latest save.

Cicero doesnt aid Drake after we reload, Drake doesnt fight Germany and peaces, and in the end attacks Venice.

Why the reload? And why is Drake so pissed at EGO? Can someone here explain that to me... In a civil mode?

P.S: Shouldnt i be the one pissed because Spain was given 1000 warships and 400.000 cheaply back, and because Drake broke... again... his NAP with Venice?
I am not sure... I though Drake quit because he was unhappy with being ganged or something. I never really saw any reason to reload. Cicero was foolish to enter the Venetian gulf at all, especially with all his warships. But if nobody else minds, he could get those back for all I cared.

And me and Dago were fine with the peace with Drake, even if it was a bit lenient. It was after all much easier than the first war.

Not sure why he's pissed at you, or why he ragequit at all, seeing as the odds were pretty fair; BB, HAB, POL vs FRA; POL vs OE; VEN, ENG vs SPA. Or am I missing something?
 

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I am not sure... I though Drake quit because he was unhappy with being ganged or something. I never really saw any reason to reload. Cicero was foolish to enter the Venetian gulf at all, especially with all his warships. But if nobody else minds, he could get those back for all I cared.

And me and Dago were fine with the peace with Drake, even if it was a bit lenient. It was after all much easier than the first war.

Not sure why he's pissed at you, or why he ragequit at all, seeing as the odds were pretty fair; BB, HAB, POL vs FRA; POL vs OE; VEN, ENG vs SPA & FRA. Or am I missing something?

at the time it felt like a 6vs2 gang, it was very chaotic and alot of misunderstanding took place and i did not see ottos dowing poland all i saw was ottos attacking spanish fleet leaving me alone with 4-5vs1 odds atstea and 3vs1 odds atleast onland
i wasnt sure what england planned to do, or ottos or poland and i couldnt effectivle fight germany due the rest dowing spain either as i could not move like it should have been in netherlands with my fleet away
with all that going on i hit a stabhit accept by accident and thats when it became to much and ragequit
 

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i wont be able to play next monday; at least not at regular starting time. depending on when im coming back home i maybe jump in at 22:00 CEt or something.

if theres a sub available id be happy to give away Spain for 1 session; if its not subbed please ghost at 1/3 land, naval, mint each.
 

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Btw HAL, you spoke of some certain polish leader that had bad stats and that served in the USA army during the american war of indepedence, but who was the guy? Pulaski?
 

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