VIP MP: The Last Stand

[Mats_SX]

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Another utterly out-bored, lame-ass session. Building forts and colonizing 3 provs, woho great fun... At least I count on some fighting now that I've lost my good leaders and France got Turenne, so that just maybe there is someone who dares to fight...

Interesting session. We´ll have to edit back all the stuff Russia lost after it was ghosted, of course.

Do we have to? Why not just make it onlimits?

 

[BurningEGO]

Russia isnt dead yet IMO. It can still be a good thing to throw at HAL.

 

[EarendilHE]

i have already started a conversion in one defected province..really thought its over. who would play it? cicero? after he left portugal, because it is too weak?

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

Russia is dead. Editing it back makes no sense now. Why none said something while we were playing?

 

[unmerged(49695)]

russia is beyond dead. It still has lots of good leaders and events coming.

 

[BurningEGO]

Russia is dead. Editing it back makes no sense now. Why none said something while we were playing?

By "editing" i am fairly sure Ampo meant the provinces that defected, lost investment, and possibly some cash to compensate the lost census from the lost provinces during all these years. Nothing really big, just what it deserves.

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

Was your help to Sweden also something Russia deserved?

 

[BurningEGO]

Was your help to Sweden also something Russia deserved?

Russia? No. Poland? Yes. You gotta learn that you cant double cross EGO and go unpunished.

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

It can still be a good thing to throw at HAL.

You may throw at me everything you can, you may take me all I have, you may even make me dead! I still will be above you! HA!

 

[Therion]

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Another utterly out-bored, lame-ass session. Building forts and colonizing 3 provs, woho great fun... At least I count on some fighting now that I've lost my good leaders and France got Turenne, so that just maybe there is someone who dares to fight...

Why didn't you fight anyone?

 

[Mats_SX]

Why didn't you fight anyone?

I had my reasons... Attacking either France, Venice or Ottoman Empire would leave me facing all three of them. Attacking Poland would've been lame, seeing as they had both Venice and Sweden with G2A against them. Attacking Brandenburg would have aggravated all my neighbours (due to my increasing strength and independence of allies), and also definitely England and probably Spain. Seeing the opinions of other nations led me to the conclusion that peace was how it were to be.

 

[BurningEGO]

I had my reasons... Attacking either France, Venice or Ottoman Empire would leave me facing all three of them. Attacking Poland would've been lame, seeing as they had both Venice and Sweden with G2A against them. Attacking Brandenburg would have aggravated all my neighbours (due to my increasing strength and independence of allies), and also definitely England and probably Spain. Seeing the opinions of other nations led me to the conclusion that peace was how it were to be.

Why do you care if "attacking Poland" would have been lame? Look at what HAL has been doing with Russia. And if you think that jumping at em while they were at war was "lame" you could have waited till they were at peace to declare war on them.

 

[Mats_SX]

Why do you care if "attacking Poland" would have been lame? Look at what HAL has been doing with Russia. And if you think that jumping at em while they were at war was "lame" you could have waited till they were at peace to declare war on them.

I still thought it would've been lame, seeing as they were weaker than I in most if not all aspects.

 

[EarendilHE]

I still thought it would've been lame, seeing as they were weaker than I in most if not all aspects.

you didnt care about it, when i was in war with mali and threated me to get a small goldmine. you even dowed me together with the oe...

 

[BurningEGO]

you didnt care about it, when i was in war with mali and threated me to get a small goldmine. you even dowed me together with the oe...

Touché!

 

[Mats_SX]

you didnt care about it, when i was in war with mali and threated me to get a small goldmine. you even dowed me together with the oe...

You aren't my neighbour. My land strength is null and void against you.

Despite this, you were always richer than me, so Austria is not as superior to Sweden as it is to Poland.

 

[EarendilHE]

You aren't my neighbour. My land strength is null and void against you.

Despite this, you were always richer than me, so Austria is not as superior to Sweden as it is to Poland.

pls check the stats again for a income comparison in the 16th century...

 

[Mats_SX]

pls check the stats again for a income comparison in the 16th century...

1500: 640 vs 800
1534: 900 vs 600 (due to your provinces rebelled and looted and occupied due to war with BB)
1558: 1300 vs 1300
1583: 1690 vs 1270
1605: 1760 vs 1920
1636: 2000 vs 2200

Only at the end of the 1583 session was I higher than you (save for the war), and I'm pretty sure I wartaxed at the start of that year. Also that was the session in which I acquired from you the gold of Mali. Although I admit the difference was more marginal than I thought. o

 

[EarendilHE]

1500: 640 vs 800
1534: 900 vs 600 (due to your provinces rebelled and looted and occupied due to war with BB)
1558: 1300 vs 1300
1583: 1690 vs 1270
1605: 1760 vs 1920
1636: 2000 vs 2200

Only at the end of the 1583 session was I higher than you (save for the war), and I'm pretty sure I wartaxed at the start of that year. Also that was the session in which I acquired from you the gold of Mali. Although I admit the difference was more marginal than I thought. o

wrong, you are richer in 34 and 58, too. i lost only 200d (or maybe a bit more, but it has to be 300 to be above your income) in 34, because of the war on bb, but thats all. so im still under your number without any war. and in 58 youve got more money than me...youve rounded up both, but in fact youve got 25d more...that was the session before your dow (together with the oe). always wartaxing right? mats, ive thought you dont lie like that...

 

[Mats_SX]

wrong, you are richer in 34 and 58, too. i lost only 200d (or maybe a bit more, but it has to be 300 to be above your income) in 34, because of the war on bb, but thats all. so im still under your number without any war. and in 58 youve got more money than me...youve rounded up both, but in fact youve got 25d more...that was the session before your dow (together with the oe). always wartaxing right? mats, ive thought you dont lie like that...

I thought the war would've cut income in half or something, seeing as you had rebel-controlled provinces, rebel-sieged (and looted) provinces and also Brandenburg occupied some provinces. But if you say 200, then OK. 25d is correct, but as I said marginal.