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EarendilHE

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According to the leader file, you shouldn't be getting Vasa until 1520 anyway.

i know it. monarchfile, btw. ;)
have you edited it?
 

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Edits made:

- Lombardia (389) from HAB to VEN
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- 0.5 deflation for TUR, HAB, VEN
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From now on this event log, and all edit requests, should be posted in this thread. If it is posted in this thread, it might be edited if you are lucky, but do not count on it; post in the correct thread.
 

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EDITED: posted an edit request in the wrong thread :p

sooo, howdy?
 

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pretty nice session, I will try to write few words, during week, about what happened in Spain.
 

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It pretty much resumes to hiding in spain, eating stability eats for breakfast, killing rebels and being stubborn.

EDITED: forgot the part where you had to get Austria-Russia-Poland to help you vs the "mighty OE" (which is weaker than russia itself), and watched them instead of actually helping.
 

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Well, all I can say is that Poland needs some adjustments in international politics. Clearly the role of defender of Europe is not task for us ;) But what will our country do is no longer in hands of a king. He is arrested and will be trial for allying with Habsburgs and Russia - what led Poland to unimaginable suffering.

Guys I really have a lot of work in incoming days, so don't be angry I'm not on icq. Good night all.
 

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It pretty much resumes to hiding in spain, eating stability eats for breakfast, killing rebels and being stubborn.

i was developing Spain economically and territorially(colonization), it is true that i wasn't very aggressive this session, but since im a sub and not perm and this is my first time after long break from eu2 I think I handled things pretty good.

at least I wasn't anybodys lackey(I don't know is this best suited word but hell whatever ;))
 

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...

EDITED: forgot the part where you had to get Austria-Russia-Poland to help you vs the "mighty OE" (which is weaker than russia itself), and watched them instead of actually helping.

if you would spend a little time thinking through what you just said you would noticed that it is just silly, I wasn't helping much because I was pretty much imprisoned on Iberia, since you and oe destroyed my fleet, maybe I should have teleported my troops to Italy or Balkans?

I was trying to do some damage in Africa with my remaining troops, but that wasn't very effective, I admit that

anyway, why are you so emotional about this war? you won didn't you?
 

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i was developing Spain economically and territorially(colonization), it is true that i wasn't very aggressive this session, but since im a sub and not perm and this is my first time after long break from eu2 I think I handled things pretty good.

at least I wasn't anybodys lackey(I don't know is this best suited word but hell whatever ;))

If you continued playing Spain, i am certain Spain would end in a position even worse than that of a "lackey".

You minted 6% to fight for some extremely poor provinces that spain will end up loosing sooner or later. And i am "emotional" because i hate destructive subs who care nothing about nations they are subbing because they arent the perms.

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Anyway, HAL, i am seriously wondering what goes inside your head. Because despite trying as hard as i can, i cannot understand the reason to fight versus the OE like that.

You loose provinces versus Russia
Russia holds a lot of provinces that are your cores
Russia is as strong as the OE (same manpower and basically same income)
Russia will have to crush poland at some point to expand in europe
The OE has nothing to earn from fighting Poland
The OE tries to be your friend
Etc

But still, despite all evidences, bonuses and power you could get from attacking Russia, you decide to gang the OE instead like a coward.

Now, after checking the stats i see where this is going. Austria lost a bit of cash. Russia lost almost nothing. Poland got cheated, vassalized, and wasted far more cash than either Austria or Russia put together (!) despite being poorer. I would start opening my eyes if i were you before it gets too late to do such a thing.
 
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Hal likes choose the way of the sufference :D
 

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Well... I fought conservatively, using my Frundsberg advantage. HAL and PJL were attriting their troops all the time, attacking into mountains with large armies (also losing to attrition) and assaulting everywhere. It was a bit odd that I managed to get stabhitting warscore while Russia and Poland were pretty much at 0 for the most part.

Also I sent Poland much money, so part of what he lost were also my loss.
 

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Well... I fought conservatively, using my Frundsberg advantage. HAL and PJL were attriting their troops all the time, attacking into mountains with large armies (also losing to attrition) and assaulting everywhere. It was a bit odd that I managed to get stabhitting warscore while Russia and Poland were pretty much at 0 for the most part.

Also I sent Poland much money, so part of what he lost were also my loss.

Nothing odd on it - both provinces you always took were too far away for the OE to defend, and you always took brescia (which had no fort only god knows why) plus that province south of krain for cheap warscore.

I also grabbed some warscore against Russia-Poland for the OE - i assaulted a few forts around the black sea and repulsed their armies a few times (and eventually got repulsed by glinski in circassia).

What was really odd was that despite your shitty leaders you always won versus me even during attacks on mountains... But even more curious was that when i was making an initial push against Austria, CG peaces for 2 provinces... Perfect timing.
 

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Im sorry, was country was just covered in rebellions...
 

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If you continued playing Spain, i am certain Spain would end in a position even worse than that of a "lackey".

You minted 6% to fight for some extremely poor provinces that spain will end up loosing sooner or later. And i am "emotional" because i hate destructive subs who care nothing about nations they are subbing because they arent the perms.

...

most of inflation is from gold, we played 34 years and I get something like 0,16 inflation a year from it, 34*0,16=5,44 (even if you get under consideration that I got incas during session I still had mexico)

congrats on your great mind

anyway, this is my last response to anything you will be saying about how I play, I myself almost never comment on others players playing styles, I consider it rude, this game suppose to be fun and you are spoiling this fun
 

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What was really odd was that despite your shitty leaders you always won versus me even during attacks on mountains... But even more curious was that when i was making an initial push against Austria, CG peaces for 2 provinces... Perfect timing.
Hehe, only the things which do not work for you are considered odd by you :p Everything else is just in order.

My leaders weren't that bad, I had a 3-5-4 random and then Frundsie with 4-5-6. Your randoms were worse.
 

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most of inflation is from gold, we played 34 years and I get something like 0,16 inflation a year from it, 34*0,16=5,44 (even if you get under consideration that I got incas during session I still had mexico)

congrats on your great mind

anyway, this is my last response to anything you will be saying about how I play, I myself almost never comment on others players playing styles, I consider it rude, this game suppose to be fun and you are spoiling this fun

OK, so the inflation was from gold... But tell me where did you waste 6000 gold on troops? Was it fighting the incas, too?

I wouldnt have even wasted half of that to defend ultra poor, defenseless provinces were i Spain.
 

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OK, so the inflation was from gold... But tell me where did you waste 6000 gold on troops? Was it fighting the incas, too?

I wouldnt have even wasted half of that to defend ultra poor, defenseless provinces were i Spain.

really, now I'm starting to think that you just making fun of me, check the stats again :rofl:
for troops i used only 2500 d, from it half is fighting you and half fighting rebels and incas
rest of this 6000 is my sunken fleet(which was in first few months of war so there was no choice if i wanted to waste it to defend myself or not...)