VIP - Italian States and Unified Italy

[Generalisimo]

Yes I messed it ? Ok found the mistake now I correct it

yep

event = {
id = XXXXX
random = no
country = TUS

trigger = { 
exists = LUC
}

name = "Maria Luisa of Austria, duchess of Parma dies" 
desc = "As it had been decided in the Wien Congress, Granduchy of Tuscany would have inherited the duchy of Lucca at the duchess' death, the actual Duke Charles Ludovic of Bourbonnais is now the Duke of Parma"
style = 0

date = { day = 17 month = december year = 1847 }

action_a = {
name = "OK" 
command = { type = inherit which = LUC }
}
}

you do not need the offset if you want the event to trigger in an exact date.
the secedeprovince command transfer the province 847 from TUS (the owner of this EVENT) to TUS (the one that you specified in the "value" clause), so this doesn't work, LUC should be transferring the province. But it is easier to use the inherit command.

command = { type = inherit which = LUC }

But, i think that this events are already in:

event = { 
id = 205000
random = no
country = LUC 
trigger = {
	constitution = { country = LUC type = monarchy }
	constitution = { country = PAR type = monarchy }
	constitution = { country = TUS type = monarchy }
	}

name = "Time to go with pacted"#
desc = "After the Congress the Duchy of Parma was given to Napoleon's Wife in usufructus, but when she died the Duchy shall be given back to their rightfull owners the Bourbon-Parma, who were given Lucca in exchange promising to give it to Tuscany once they have recovered Parma."#
style = 0

date = { day = 5 month = october year = 1847 }
offset = 15
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1847 }

action_a = {
	name = "Cede Lucca to Tuscany as we had promised" # 
	command = { type = surrender which = TUS }
	}
action_b = {
	name = "Annex it to Parma as we are the true rulers of Lucca" # 
	command = { type = surrender which = PAR }
	command = { type = trigger which  = 280000 } #Tuscan Offense
	}
action_c = {
	name = "Two Duchies, one Duke" #
	command = { type = alliance which = PAR }
	command = { type = trigger which = 280000 } #Tuscan Offense
	command = { type = trigger which  = 240000 } #Two Duchies. one Duke(PAR)
	}
}

 

[unmerged(10550)]

well, i think that Austria will be seen like any prestigious nations when they are "surrendering" all of their southern part of their country... and -10 is not that much for avoiding a war.... the provinces that they loose are more valuables...

i will see if Italy choose too much the first option, if that happens i will reduce it even more... also i will check how Italy ends after this event, to see if i need to take more prestige from them for accepting this.

Well btw they choosed to fight and this wasted a lot of money. The historical reason why they choosed it was the prestige they gained through the years (with the Crimean war and independence war II) u could also add a worse ralation with Prussia

 

[Generalisimo]

u could also add a worse ralation with Prussia

after posting the events in the forum i modded the italian event to add this:

command = { type = relation which = PRU value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = AUS value = 50 }

so, i have already added that...

the PRU relation decrease is because of the alliance broken and the AUS relation increase is to avoid a later war for the lost territory.

 

[unmerged(10550)]

you do not need the offset if you want the event to trigger in an exact date.

> didnt want an exact date she could die anytime

the secedeprovince command transfer the province 847 from TUS (the owner .SNIP

>Yeah I corrected it

But, i think that this events are already in:

event = { 
id = 205000
..SNIP

>hmm I think this event should have no trigger and being inevitable, btw it is not in my 0.2

 

[Generalisimo]

hmm I think this event should have no trigger and being inevitable, btw it is not in my 0.2

It is in your VIP v0.2, check here:
..\Victoria\scenarios\VIPscen\events\VIP_Lucca.txt

 

[Generalisimo]

you do not need the offset if you want the event to trigger in an exact date.

> didnt want an exact date she could die anytime

well, you wrote this:

trigger = { 
exists = LUC
}
[...]
date = { day = 17 month = december year = 1847 }
offset = 30

That will check the event in the 17th of December of 1847, check if Lucca exists, then activate the event (condition = TRUE), count 30 days (because of the offset) and then Trigger the event.
That's not an exact date?

 

[unmerged(10550)]

It is in your VIP v0.2, check here:
..\Victoria\scenarios\VIPscen\events\VIP_Lucca.txt

Oops sorry I always watched the wrong folder... I must restudy them then!
btw why the option to choose? I think there was no way to avoid annexing Lucca after the duchess would have been died

 

[Generalisimo]

Oops sorry I always watched the wrong folder... I must restudy them then!
btw why the option to choose? I think there was no way to avoid annexing Lucca after the duchess would have been died

they choose to who to surrender, TUS or PAR, or a C option for a player controlled LUC to make an alliance and go to war.

 

[unmerged(10550)]

well, you wrote this:
[[/CODE]
That will check the event in the 17th of December of 1847, check if Lucca exists, then activate the event (condition = TRUE), count 30 days (because of the offset) and then Trigger the event.
That's not an exact date?

Yes pardon me I am very novice, I wanted to express that in 30 days from that date the event could be realized anytime what must I write to have this?

 

[Darkrenown]

#########################################################################
# Change capital to Firenze? (by Generalisimo)
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 185013
random = no
country = ITA

trigger = {
owned = { province = 846 data = ITA }
NOT = {
capital = 846 # Firenze
}
NOT = {
capital = 855 # Rome
}
}

name = "The Italian capital"
desc = "As Italy was created the question of which city should be the capital of the newfound country emerged."
style = 0

date = { day = 20 month = january year = 1850 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1890 }

action_a = {
name = "Move capital to Firenze"
command = { type = capital which = 846 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Keep current capital"
command = { }
}
}

Why not merge that event with the moving the capital to rome one? You could have A move to Rome, B move to Firenze and C keep current capital with a 60/30/10 AI chance.

 

[unmerged(10550)]

they choose to who to surrender, TUS or PAR, or a C option for a player controlled LUC to make an alliance and go to war.

Hmmm.... I dont like it that much, I d like to say to Lucca players worldwide they should accept the inevitable and play as tuscany, in 12 yrs they will have Lucca again... I think historically there was no option to this.... just if one of the revolts would have kicked out the duchess and proclamed a republic they could have had the option to fight for freedom (Austria Parma Modena and Tuscany would have regulated them though) The Parma option is a bit unhistorical cause they were all members of the same family and they would have never fight among them (btw Austria would have imposed the old order in any case) IMHO

 

[Generalisimo]

Why not merge that event with the moving the capital to rome one? You could have A move to Rome, B move to Firenze and C keep current capital with a 60/30/10 AI chance.

Rome becomes part of Italy much later...because now the papal states become a satellite of France when Italy is formed.
With this, you get the option to move the capital before Rome falls in your hands.

 

[Generalisimo]

Hmmm.... I dont like it that much, I d like to say to Lucca players worldwide they should accept the inevitable and play as tuscany, in 12 yrs they will have Lucca again... I think historically there was no option to this.... just if one of the revolts would have kicked out the duchess and proclamed a republic they could have had the option to fight for freedom (Austria Parma Modena and Tuscany would have regulated them though) The Parma option is a bit unhistorical cause they were all members of the same family and they would have never fight among them (btw Austria would have imposed the old order in any case) IMHO

If you are REALLY against that event, send a PM to Txini, he is the author of the event.

 

[Generalisimo]

Yes pardon me I am very novice, I wanted to express that in 30 days from that date the event could be realized anytime what must I write to have this?

something like this:

trigger = { 
exists = LUC
random = 50
}
[...]
date = { day = 17 month = december year = 1847 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 17 month = december year = 1848 }

that will check the event every 30 days (the offset) during the entire year from 17th of december of 1847 to 17th of december of 1848. Also i added some "random" condition, so the event is not always true, that will add some unpredictability to the event.

 

[pimparel]

something like this:

trigger = { 
exists = LUC
random = 50
}
[...]
date = { day = 17 month = december year = 1847 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 17 month = december year = 1848 }

that will check the event every 30 days (the offset) during the entire year from 17th of december of 1847 to 17th of december of 1848. Also i added some "random" condition, so the event is not always true, that will add some unpredictability to the event.

hmmm.

50% of triggering checking every 30 days through 1 year.

The chance of this happening is almost 100%.

month 1 = 50%
month 2 = 50% + 50%*1.5 = 75%
month 3 = 75% + 50%*1.5 = 87,...%
and on

 

[unmerged(10550)]

If you are REALLY against that event, send a PM to Txini, he is the author of the event.

Hopefully he will read here... maybe it got a different flavour in the complex of popular revolts, btw Tuscany turned against Austria so it could be for the others, even if they should have very different percentages to give more chance to the historical development of the thing

 

[Generalisimo]

hmmm.

50% of triggering checking every 30 days through 1 year.

The chance of this happening is almost 100%.

month 1 = 50%
month 2 = 50% + 50%*1.5 = 75%
month 3 = 75% + 50%*1.5 = 87,...%
and on

It should happen ALWAYS, like he describe.
The only thing that i wanted to do random is the date when it happens...

 

[Darkrenown]

Rome becomes part of Italy much later...because now the papal states become a satellite of France when Italy is formed.
With this, you get the option to move the capital before Rome falls in your hands.

Oh. Well if you'd release 0.2b I could play VIP again and I'd know these things

 

[pimparel]

Oh. Well if you'd release 0.2b I could play VIP again and I'd know these things

Pending approval by the Modderator

 

[unmerged(4253)]

Oh, and that reminds me, why not make the Crimean War give prestiege to S-P instead of taking it away?