VIP - Germany, Prussia, German minors and Switzerland

[OHgamer]

Greetings,

I was playing the VIP GC as Prussia and managed the entire series of historical German Unification events (more or less, anyway, the Austrians backed down instead of fighting me over German supremecy).

The game was nearing its ending years and, having an advantage in military strength (I had developed tanks and produced them in good quanitity, so had developed a good number of infantry with tank attachments), I decided to go on a true war spree. I declared war on Russia, and did rather well, but some of the WW1 related events fired, namely, the sending of Lenin to Russia, the Russian revolution, etc, that much made sense. At the end of the war I had a modest 25% war score and all was well. I then suddenly got the Rebellion event that occurs to Germany if they lose WW1, which made no sense at all.

I'm unsure if I installed VIP correctly, seeing as your 1914 scenario crashes when I try and run it, an improper instillation is the only explanation I can think of beyond the event itself not being written correctly.

Thank you for your hard work on this mod.

My guess is you installed correctly. The events for the 1914 scenario are designed also for later game firing in other scenarios IIRC, but have probably not been looked at all that much in VIP lately - later game has not been the primary focus for the developers up to 1.04B, so the potential for oddities to come up later in game with events designed for late game is quite possible, especially if they are vanilla events.

 

[Chilango2]

My guess is you installed correctly. The events for the 1914 scenario are designed also for later game firing in other scenarios IIRC, but have probably not been looked at all that much in VIP lately - later game has not been the primary focus for the developers up to 1.04B, so the potential for oddities to come up later in game with events designed for late game is quite possible, especially if they are vanilla events.

I figured that was the case. In my above post I said 25% war score, I meant 25% war exhaustion.

I haven't looked at the event itself, but my guess is that being/having a war and war exhaustion over a certain amount triggers it, I had also accidently made myself a Con-Mon through expanding voting rights to wealth which may or may not have been a factor.

But in any case, the triggers for the event, assuming the event is kept in the GC, need to be seriosuly reworked, and it may need to be reworded as well, refrences to the Treaty of Versvailles make no sense at all when WW1 didn't, and won't, occur.

 

[T'ung Dynasty]

i have played the prussia many times but the outcome it always very radom and not according to history leh,austria also.......

 

[OHgamer]

i have played the prussia many times but the outcome it always very radom and not according to history leh,austria also.......

To be expected as many events for VIP have "ahistorical" options. The AI can choose them just like human players, and has approximately 1 in 20 chance of doing so in normal events. Considering the number of events there are for Prussia and for nations with events caused by Prussia's actions, the chances of things not staying "strictly historical" will be high, especially with the lower emphasis on post-1880 events reducing the "channeling" of nations along more historical paths.

VIP does endeavour to make the game "more historical" especially in AI-controlled nation behavior, but it can not make it 100% historical in all areas. Some areas we need to expand the ahistorical element more, other areas players may feel we need to channel events more historically than currently. It's an issue of balance, and while we are not perfect at it, VIP does make a good attempt at it : compare how ofter GER, ITA and SCA form in VIP under AI conditions in comparison to 1.03C unmodded.

 

[T'ung Dynasty]

so where is the link to the VIP mod???

 

[Sleepyhead]

Here or press the link in OHGamers signature.

 

[T'ung Dynasty]

ooh thnks alot

 

[KingOfTheIsles]

(not a big deal anyway, since it is an unnecessary event that should be removed... All German minors were monarchies or constitutional monarchies in 1850, and yet Germany didn't unify)

Not true at all. This event is the historically correct outcome. In 1850, the Treaty of Olmutz did trigger a crisis of german leadership, but in fact Prussia backed down and the german Federation was restored. Taking this event out would make the historical path impossible to follow.

However, the event does seem to be broken as it simply makes you Germany as an absolute monarchy from what I can see. I'm looking through the events to find a way to try and fix the chain.

Edit: On further research, the chain actually isn't broken. The one, slightly odd, thing is that the events to get the german minors to join the Conservative empire (3605 is the example for Bremen) has a death date of 1852, whilst the end of the unification war is capable of firing until 1858. Perhaps the minors joining Germany events should be changed to a death date of 1858?

Triggering the events manually, Germany is formed correctly, and most states join. Badboy gain is about 25.

 

[Panzerschreck]

I would rather like tro see an event that checks if all other german nations ar AI controlled and that simply add the command "Inherit = BRE"

If a germany would be created there where no real "choise", and if they had a problm they would try to "fix" this problem internaly...

Th german minors would rather be forced to join germany, and not only by the new regent, further more by their own population... I mean it was the wish of the entire german bund to form a germany...

But after my Political overhaul many german states will be const. Mon. in 1836

 

[ptan54]

Thank you.

I should also add that I think this should happen only after the dismissal of Bismarck (1890, although there perhaps should be an event to simulate this). The Chancellor favoured keeping close ties with Russia and remarked that as long as he were in power, he would have no quarrel with Russia. This is also evidenced by the fact that he intervened when Count Andrassy time and time again pushed for war against Russia in 1878. I shall write the event chain after my exams are done.

Bit late, but they're done. Please note this is still in progress although I tested it and the chain works fine. Of course the event IDs need to be changed, I am operating on Victoria 1.4. Ruling party 3010 is the Alldeutscher Verband, reactionary, jingoism, moralism, protectionism, state capitalism.

#########################################################################
# The Alldeutscher Verband
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 3101
random = no
country = GER


name = "The Alldeutscher Verband"
desc = "The rise of the Alldeutscher Verband to power has made the ultranationalist aims of the party a distinct strategic possibility for German hegemony in Europe. Their program of expansion called for Germany to wrest control of Central and Eastern Europe from Russia and establish German rule over the region to create a German dominated Mitteleuropa."

style = 0

trigger = {
OR = {
constitution = { country = GER type = constitutional_monarchy }
constitution = { country = GER type = monarchy }
}
ruling_party = 3010
is_GP = yes
}

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1891 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "These people are insane"
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = reactionary value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = reactionary value = 1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 3102 } # Defeat of the Alldeutscher Verband
command = { type = sleepevent which = 2550 } # The Second Time of Troubles
}

action_b = {
name = "Let us claim our destiny"
command = { type = addcore which = 419 } # Congress Poland
command = { type = addcore which = 418 }
command = { type = addcore which = 417 }
command = { type = addcore which = 416 }
command = { type = addcore which = 415 }
command = { type = addcore which = 413 }
command = { type = addcore which = 943 }
command = { type = addcore which = 364 }
command = { type = addcore which = 942 }
command = { type = addcore which = 410 }
command = { type = addcore which = 412 }
command = { type = addcore which = 407 } # Part of Byelorussia
command = { type = addcore which = 408 }
command = { type = addcore which = 409 }
command = { type = addcore which = 411 }
command = { type = addcore which = 405 } # Lithuania
command = { type = addcore which = 399 }
command = { type = addcore which = 406 }
command = { type = addcore which = 442 }
command = { type = addcore which = 404 }
command = { type = addcore which = 403 }
command = { type = addcore which = 400 } # Latvia
command = { type = addcore which = 401 }
command = { type = addcore which = 402 }
command = { type = addcore which = 390 }
command = { type = addcore which = 389 }
command = { type = addcore which = 425 }
command = { type = addcore which = 387 } # Estonia
command = { type = addcore which = 386 }
command = { type = addcore which = 388 }
command = { type = addcore which = 441 }
command = { type = badboy value = 5 }
command = { type = leave_alliance which = RUS }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -150 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -150 }
command = { type = relation which = -3 value = -50 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = north_german value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = south_german value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = socialist value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = communist value = 2 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = reactionary value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 10 value = jingoism }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 20 value = pro_military }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = liberal value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = socialist value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = anarcho_liberal value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = communist value = 2 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = reactionary value = -1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = soldiers value = -1 }
}
}

Then if the Germans beat Russia so thoroughly they make Russia a satellite (thereby having all those previous cores go to Germany), Russia releases a lot of revolters. I'm not sure about the Central Asian states but I threw them in anyway. Azerbaijan is not a revolter in Vanilla Vicky and I think it should be. *NOTE, U23 is now Azerbaijan following the changes in Victoria Revolutions. NB - Crimea not released now as this would mean no Black Sea port for Russia.

#########################################################################
# The Second Time of Troubles
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 2550
random = no
country = RUS


trigger = {
NOT = { war = { country = RUS country = GER } }
satellite = { country = RUS country = GER }
event = 3101
peace_treaty = { country = RUS country = GER }
}

name = "The Second Time of Troubles"
desc = "With Russia's catastrophic defeat against Germany and the loss of Poland and the Baltic states, the Russian government has lost all credibility and support. Russian radicals call for communism as the answer to Russia's ills, and reactionaries nurse their wounds, intent on striking back at the German hegemon as soon as they can. Meanwhile, the assorted non-Russian nationalities seize the opportunity of a weakened central government to assert independence."
style = 0

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1891 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "The Russian Empire is no more"
command = { type = prestige value = -500 }
command = { type = independence which = ROM value = 1 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 967 } # Bessarabia
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 983 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 1000 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = MOL value = 967 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = MOL value = 983 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = MOL value = 1000 }
command = { type = independence which = GEO value = 1 }
command = { type = independence which = ARM value = 1 }
command = { type = independence which = U23 value = 1 }
command = { type = independence which = KHI value = 1 }
command = { type = independence which = BUK value = 1 }
command = { type = independence which = KOK value = 1 }
command = { type = secedestate which = GER value = 383 } # Tamperes
command = { type = secedestate which = GER value = 384 } # Savolax
command = { type = secedestate which = GER value = 80 } # Lapland
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 377 } # Svealand
command = { type = secedestate which = GER value = 984 } # Odessa
command = { type = secedestate which = GER value = 438 } # Kyjiv
command = { type = secedestate which = GER value = 1015 } # Sevastopol
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 892 } # Poltava
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1021 } # Kharkov
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1022 } # Kopansk
command = { type = removecore which = 419 } # Congress Poland
command = { type = removecore which = 418 }
command = { type = removecore which = 417 }
command = { type = removecore which = 416 }
command = { type = removecore which = 415 }
command = { type = removecore which = 413 }
command = { type = removecore which = 943 }
command = { type = removecore which = 364 }
command = { type = removecore which = 942 }
command = { type = removecore which = 410 }
command = { type = removecore which = 412 }
command = { type = removecore which = 407 } # Part of Byelorussia
command = { type = removecore which = 408 }
command = { type = removecore which = 409 }
command = { type = removecore which = 411 }
command = { type = removecore which = 405 } # Lithuania
command = { type = removecore which = 399 }
command = { type = removecore which = 406 }
command = { type = removecore which = 442 }
command = { type = removecore which = 404 }
command = { type = removecore which = 403 }
command = { type = removecore which = 400 } # Latvia
command = { type = removecore which = 401 }
command = { type = removecore which = 402 }
command = { type = removecore which = 390 }
command = { type = removecore which = 389 }
command = { type = removecore which = 425 }
command = { type = removecore which = 387 } # Estonia
command = { type = removecore which = 386 }
command = { type = removecore which = 388 }
command = { type = removecore which = 441 }
command = { type = remove_countryculture which = ukrainian }
command = { type = capital which = 459 } # Switch capital to Moscow
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = russian value = 2 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = ukrainian value = 2 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = byelorussian value = 2 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = sunni value = 4 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = shiite value = 4 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = socialist value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = communist value = 2 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = reactionary value = 2 }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 10 value = pacifism }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 20 value = anti_military }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 20 value = socialist }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 5 value = communist }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = russian value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = socialist value = 2 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = anarcho_liberal value = 3 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = communist value = 4 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = reactionary value = 3 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = sunni value = 4 } # non-Orthodox populations itching for separation
command = { type = pop_militancy which = shiite value = 4 }
command = { type = national_trauma value = yes }
command = { type = separatism value = yes }
command = { type = revanchism value = yes }
command = { type = rebel_spawn_rate which = communist value = 50 }
}
}

Germany then gets this event to give it a prestige boost.

#########################################################################
# German Hegemony in Europe
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 3103
random = no
country = GER

trigger = {
NOT = { war = { country = RUS country = GER } }
event = 2550 # Second Time of Troubles
event = 3101 # Alldeutscher Verband
NOT = { event = 3102 }
}

name = "German Hegemony in Europe"
desc = "The German Army has crushed the Russian Empire and reduced it to nothing more than a pliant puppet of Germany. With our position in Central and Eastern Europe secure, Germany's hegemony in Europe is unassailable. This great victory has furthermore buttressed the prestige and preeminence of the military establishment in Germany."

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1891 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "Sehr Gut"
command = { type = prestige value = 500 }
command = { type = pop_ideology which = 25 value = conservative } # Conservative forces triumph
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 20 value = jingoism }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 20 value = pro_military }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 20 value = limited_citizenship } # want to assimilate the new minorities
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = conservative value = -1 } # drunk with the glory of victory
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = reactionary value = -1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = soldiers value = -1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = officers value = -1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = north_german value = -1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = south_german value = -1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = conservative value = -1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = reactionary value = -1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = soldiers value = -1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = russian value = 1 } # there will be Russians in these lands
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = russian value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = byelorussian value = 1 } # and Byelorussians
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = byelorussian value = 1 }
}
}

Finland and Ukraine become German satellites [this time Germany releases them, avoiding the "what if Russia lost them before this war?" problem]

#########################################################################
# German dominated Finland and Ukraine
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 3104
random = no
country = GER

trigger = {
NOT = { war = { country = RUS country = GER } }
satellite = { country = RUS country = GER }
event = 2550 # Second Time of Troubles
event = 3101 # Alldeutscher Verband
event = 3103 # German Hegemony in Europe
NOT = { event = 3102 }
}

name = "German dominated Finland and Ukraine"
desc = "Now that Finland and the Ukraine have been wrested from Russia's grasp, pro-German elements will be installed on the respective thrones of these German puppets."

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1891 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "Sehr Gut"
command = { type = independence which = FIN value = 1 }
command = { type = independence which = UKR value = 1 }
command = { type = make_satellite which = FIN }
command = { type = make_satellite which = UKR }
}
}

Then Germany has a choice. The usual one would involve a Brest-Litovsk style ring of puppet states (ai = 99%), the other would keep the conquered territory in German borders (ai = 1%). This is followed by a border readjustment event since Germany wouldn't let a Polish puppet have West Prussia or Silesia.

#########################################################################
# German Puppets
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 3105
random = no
country = GER

trigger = {
NOT = { war = { country = RUS country = GER } }
event = 2550 # Second Time of Troubles
event = 3101 # Alldeutscher Verband
event = 3103 # German Hegemony in Europe
NOT = { event = 3102 }
}

name = "German Puppets"
desc = "The Foreign Office has determined that it would be in Germany's best interest to create a ring of German puppet states out of our newly acquired territories. Ethnic German monarchs would be placed on their throne to give them a false semblance of authority. The German Army, however, is adamant that we must keep these hard-earned possessions within the German Empire as new Reichslands."

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1891 }
offset = 15
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1920 }

action_a = {
ai_chance = 99
name = "They shall bow down before our might!"
command = { type = independence which = EST value = 1 }
command = { type = independence which = LIV value = 1 }
command = { type = independence which = LIT value = 1 }
command = { type = independence which = POL value = 1 }
command = { type = removecore which = 419 } # Congress Poland
command = { type = removecore which = 418 }
command = { type = removecore which = 417 }
command = { type = removecore which = 416 }
command = { type = removecore which = 415 }
command = { type = removecore which = 413 }
command = { type = removecore which = 943 }
command = { type = removecore which = 364 }
command = { type = removecore which = 942 }
command = { type = removecore which = 410 }
command = { type = removecore which = 412 }
command = { type = removecore which = 407 } # Part of Byelorussia
command = { type = removecore which = 408 }
command = { type = removecore which = 409 }
command = { type = removecore which = 411 }
command = { type = removecore which = 405 } # Lithuania
command = { type = removecore which = 399 }
command = { type = removecore which = 406 }
command = { type = removecore which = 442 }
command = { type = removecore which = 404 }
command = { type = removecore which = 403 }
command = { type = removecore which = 400 } # Latvia
command = { type = removecore which = 401 }
command = { type = removecore which = 402 }
command = { type = removecore which = 390 }
command = { type = removecore which = 389 }
command = { type = removecore which = 425 }
command = { type = removecore which = 387 } # Estonia
command = { type = removecore which = 386 }
command = { type = removecore which = 388 }
command = { type = removecore which = 441 }
}

action_b = {
ai_chance = 1
name = "These are German Reichslands!"
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = estonian value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = latvian value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = lithuanian value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = polish value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = estonian value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = latvian value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = lithuanian value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = polish value = 1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 3106 }
}
}

#########################################################################
# Border Readjustment
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 3106
random = no
country = GER

trigger = {
event = 3105
}

name = "Border Readjustment"
desc = "Germany readjusts its borders with its vassal states."

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1891 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "OK"
command = { type = make_satellite which = EST }
command = { type = make_satellite which = LIV }
command = { type = make_satellite which = LIT }
command = { type = make_satellite which = POL }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 407 } # West Belarus to Poland
command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 408 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 409 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 411 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = UKR value = 1046 } # Azov to Ukraine
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 395 } # East Prussia to Germany
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 396 }
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 397 }
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 398 }
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 262 } # West Prussia to Germany
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 391 }
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 392 }
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 394 }
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 340 } # Posen to Germany
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 393 }
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 414 }
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 944 } # Katowice to Germany
command = { type = trigger which = 3107 } # Need to change ID
}
}

And of course if Germany is defeated in its quest for Empire:

#########################################################################
# Defeat of the Alldeutscher Verband
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 3102
random = no
country = GER


name = "Defeat of the Alldeutscher Verband"
desc = "With the defeat of Germany in the great war for empire against Russia, the Alldeutscher Verband has lost all credibility within the Reichstag. Support for militarism has plummetted as the German people seek a return to normalcy."

style = 0

trigger = {
event = 3101
war = { country = GER country = RUS }
desperation = { country = GER data = 40 }
war_exhaustion = { country = GER value = 85 }
}

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1891 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "We are defeated"
command = { type = peace which = RUS value = 0 }
command = { type = badboy value = -5 }
command = { type = prestige value = -500 }
command = { type = sleep_party which = 3010 }
command = { type = hold_election }
command = { type = end_satellite_mastery which = FIN }
command = { type = end_satellite_mastery which = UKR }
command = { type = end_satellite_mastery which = EST }
command = { type = end_satellite_mastery which = LIV }
command = { type = end_satellite_mastery which = LIT }
command = { type = end_satellite_mastery which = POL }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = reactionary value = 1 }
command = { type = removecore which = 419 } # Congress Poland
command = { type = removecore which = 418 }
command = { type = removecore which = 417 }
command = { type = removecore which = 416 }
command = { type = removecore which = 415 }
command = { type = removecore which = 413 }
command = { type = removecore which = 943 }
command = { type = removecore which = 364 }
command = { type = removecore which = 942 }
command = { type = removecore which = 410 }
command = { type = removecore which = 412 }
command = { type = removecore which = 407 } # Part of Byelorussia
command = { type = removecore which = 408 }
command = { type = removecore which = 409 }
command = { type = removecore which = 411 }
command = { type = removecore which = 405 } # Lithuania
command = { type = removecore which = 399 }
command = { type = removecore which = 406 }
command = { type = removecore which = 442 }
command = { type = removecore which = 404 }
command = { type = removecore which = 403 }
command = { type = removecore which = 400 } # Latvia
command = { type = removecore which = 401 }
command = { type = removecore which = 402 }
command = { type = removecore which = 390 }
command = { type = removecore which = 389 }
command = { type = removecore which = 425 }
command = { type = removecore which = 387 } # Estonia
command = { type = removecore which = 386 }
command = { type = removecore which = 388 }
command = { type = removecore which = 441 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = north_german value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = south_german value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = socialist value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = communist value = 2 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = reactionary value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 10 value = pacifism }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 20 value = anti_military }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 20 value = socialist }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 5 value = communist }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = liberal value = -1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = socialist value = -1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = anarcho_liberal value = -1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = communist value = -2 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = reactionary value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = soldiers value = 1 }
command = { type = convert_pop_type which = soldiers value = craftsmen when = 25 }
command = { type = convert_pop_type which = soldiers value = labourers when = 25 }
}
}

Poland may also have taken lands that were NOT in Russian Congress Poland, that Germany previously took from Austria in earlier wars. To rectify:

#########################################################################
# Border Readjustment
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 3107 [Need to change id]
random = no
country = POL

name = "Poland is free (German puppet)"
desc = "Thanks to the efforts of our liberator, Germany, we are now free from almost a century of Russian domination. To show our gratitude we have allowed a German King to rule over us."

action_a = {
name = "Hurrah"
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 945 } # Giving non-Congress Poland back to Germany if GER took them beforehand
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 946 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 947 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 948 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 949 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 950 }
}
}

 

[unmerged(27392)]

Nice events realy nice

 

[crash63]

Very interesting for Germany.

 

[Panzerschreck]

damn.. i whant to code these events

 

[panzer_general]

those events are great!!!

i swear the quality of VIP should be studied by other projects for other games even. vicky is the best paradox game imho and VIP is the best mod.

These events should be included in either a modified or 'straight up' form.

 

[ptan54]

Glad to see the responses coming in so quickly.

So, do you think that:

1) Crimea should be released by Russia, or just Ukraine?
2) Should Germany get more than a 500 prestige boost? This is happening in 1891, and bear in mind Britain and France will have (usually) claimed much of Africa leading to huge prestige boosts. Surely claiming most of Eastern Europe would lead to a greater prestige boost than Africa? This is however a difficult thing to model, since we never know what happens with the Scramble for Africa.
3) The historical Treaty of Brest-Litovsk created a ring of puppet states for Germany. Should Germany get further BB increases if it decides not to release the puppets? Or do you think the BB increase from embarking on this war (a lot for the annexations and +5 for just choosing empire) is enough?

Any further thoughts and recommendations are most welcome.

 

[Panzerschreck]

Basicly the events are good, but they are little bit to much ww1 style will the pangermanism was litle bit differend...

so your events will be included into the pangermanism events, only slightly modified...

 

[ptan54]

I've made some changes. Crimea won't be released, and now Russia cedes the territory to Germany first and then Germany releases. 99% of the time the AI will release the puppet states, and then I have a border readjustment event to fix things up (German Poland-puppet shouldn't get West Prussia or Silesia).

The AI is almost never going to be able to pull this off - making Russia a satellite. It'll be a challenge almost always for the player only.

Quite right about it looking like the Great War. Problem is, the events in the 1914.txt file have nothing to do with VIP since VIP only starts in 1836. This perhaps leaves that option open. Note this can only happen if the Alldeutscher Verband is in power - the AI will never vote it into power. I'm rather sure that a reactionary party never gets voted in, unless a Con Mon player sets it as the ruling party.

 

[Taear]

Is there a chance of a Lithuanian, Baltic State kingdom too, which is what happened during the end of the Russian Revolution?
It'd just be a quick thing to drop in little events for Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia to monarchise them, since if released normally that doesn't appear to happen.

 

[ptan54]

Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine and Finland are made German puppets. Do you mean a united Baltic Kingdom, i.e. Est + Lat + Lith as one kingdom?

 

[unmerged(19063)]

An interesting idea that just came to me (and hopefully has not been discussed before):

What if there was an ahistorical event chain that would cause the German minors to unite against Prussian and/or Austrian domination, in the late 1840s or early 1850s?

I think it could be an interesting way to throw a wrench into the plans of players of the big German states.

Maybe something like this:

-Bavarian event fires to kick off the chain (biggest minor rallies the other minors), Bavaria changes tag to German Federation (using either NGF or SGF tag)

-yes/no events fire for other German minors to join, if somehow no minors join, German Federation turns back into Bavaria

-events for Prussia and Austria to either declare war or let the matter drop. (note: either way, Prussia loses all of its extraPrussian cores to prevent the satellite trick)

-a second 'join?' event fires to try to get any remaining minor to join the GF if PRU/AUS declare war (any remaining minors see that the big states really are intending to dominate them)

-maybe ENG/FRA/RUS intervention?

-if the PRU/AUS win, they could either divide the GF between them or simply shatter the GF again.