VIP - Closed discussions of Old Versions

[OHgamer]

I just experienced the "Mahdist Uprising" as the Ottoman Empire. Looking at the trigger, it seems that this should not happen:

trigger = {
		random = 4
		OR = {
			AND = {
				NOT = { religion = { type = sunni } }
				NOT = { religion = { type = shiite } }
			}
			event = 28013
		}
	}

Am I missing something? This shouldn't fire if one's country is Sunni or Shiite, right?

hmm something not right with the trigger. Will take a look

 

[JMS424]

Mods with VIP

Are there any other downloadable scenarios that will work with VIP? Or, as I did not install VIP on a separate copy, can I not use any other scenarios simultaneously?

 

[OHgamer]

Are there any other downloadable scenarios that will work with VIP? Or, as I did not install VIP on a separate copy, can I not use any other scenarios simultaneously?

we do not recommend it, as VIP and many other mods must modify universal files for Victoria used in all scenarios. This is why we recommend installing on a separate copy, and the potential that adding another mod could cause the settings for ViP to be replaced with other settings in the files in config and db will be there.

of course it does depend on what additional mod you are adding. If it is a graphics-only mod, then it probably is OK to put on top of VIP, but if it is a mod that changes settings in the files in the db or config folder or adds new events (which VIP would not read since we keep all VIP events in the folder scenarios/VIPScen/events), you could have problems unless you keep in mind which elements have been modded for VIP and integrate the other mod around those.

 

[Tempelridderen]

My country is overrun by priests!!

Hello!
This is the first time this has happened to me, I don't know if it's usual.
Anyways, playing as Krakow i suddenly got immigraton of only clergymen from Russia. They come from areas like Vitebsk, Cerkov and other Ukrainian areas. And they are all Polish, catholic, clergymen! It is quite funny.. It must have something to do with my conservative party having moralism.. :wacko:
Because I didn't get any priest while I had the liberal or social party in power.

By the way, I'm playing VIP R:0.1

It's kinda cool that the clergy hold my country in such a high asteem

 

[unmerged(42723)]

I thought it's because of your username

 

[Tempelridderen]

I thought it's because of your username

Aha.. Yea I probably have that effect
I had demoted all of my original clergymen to farmers, but now they are 10% of the population (of 1.2 million). Funny.

 

[Vladislav]

You're playing as Krakow? How's that going?

 

[unmerged(92986)]

Late Technology?

Is it just me, Or does anyone else notice that you never get to play with your late technological advances? I must confess I've never had a Battleship nevermind a Modern Battleship on VIP. Dreadnoughts are pretty much all I've managed! An even on the Army technology, Having the ability to use Tanks and Aircraft is a luxury in the last few years of VIP. It does somewhat overshadowed the game alittle when you think that by 1916 these where widely being used on the western front. An the modern battleships was being created as early as 1919.

The Aircraft carriers are in my humble opinion too weak on the game and they don't appear at all for me. I think I've had the experimental class before, But so weak they are, An outdated monitor could sink them in battle.

I hope Ohgamer, Can in the next installment of VIP improve on this area of the game

 

[Emp_Palpatine]

You can easily survive and expand as Krakow, seeking Poland ressurection as a goal.
The trick is to use your tech capability to buy exchange techs for provinces with Russia (and of course keep very good relations (alliance, etc) with the said Russia.

 

[crash63]

It's easy with Krakow to exchange one province for 2 with Russia. Forming Poland is quite easy et even grab austrian provinces with support of Russia. Your problem is to beat Prussia.

 

[Mishgan]

Well, the problem with Russia is just that of the AI. It seems to just stagnate or even drop in military score after the Crimean War. So, I guess the AI is fixed now?

 

[OHgamer]

Naval units have been reworked for VIP:R 0.2

Not sure why you are not able to use them - tanks can be produced I find from about 1908-1910 on. Air units can be researched from 1914 IIRC, and the last of the ship inventions start firing in 1928.

We may not have much scripted event wise, but if you are in the top 10 countries, you should have time to develop the units and if you want use them, though again most of this stuff was experimental (WWI tanks were big cumbersome beasts that maybe got 2 miles to the gallon of gas, air units were mainly used for observation until the 1930s, and in the end no one knows what the new ship categories would have been capable of since they didn't get their test until WWII) so one should definitely NOT expect HoI2-style performance from these units in this game.

 

[OHgamer]

ukrainian as national culture? that is historically correct

well...I know some Ukrainians who might disagree with you on that account given the Russification policies in the nineteenth century that actively discouraged the use of Ukrainian (especially after 1880) and repressed manifestations of separate Ukrainian identity among the Ukraininan intelligentsia.

But in this case it's more gameplay > historical accuracy, Russia simply is too weak otherwise.

And as for events, check the master list of event IDs in the helpful tools for modders thread sticked at the top of this forum. You should be able to use numbers lower than where you are starting.

 

[OHgamer]

Well, the problem with Russia is just that of the AI. It seems to just stagnate or even drop in military score after the Crimean War. So, I guess the AI is fixed now?

it is being worked on.

 

[Mishgan]

Excellent! Best of luck in fixing the AI's brains

Also, can we PLEASE not go down the "Russian VS Ukrainian" path all over again? I am an ethnic Ukrainian who considers himself Russian and I deem these debates quite stupid. So, let's all just make love. With condoms. Because they keep the babies away.

 

[Old Joe]

well...I know some Ukrainians who might disagree with you on that account given the Russification policies in the nineteenth century that actively discouraged the use of Ukrainian (especially after 1880) and repressed manifestations of separate Ukrainian identity among the Ukraininan intelligentsia.
...

rather offtop but actually someone who really interested in some absolutely unnecessary animosity between ukrainian and russian people could say that, today many saying so for some unkown reason. Stupid nationalisation really was, a swell as fierce nationalization of Ukraina right now, as well as westernization under polish-lithuanina by three centuries earlier, as well as separation under horde before that, and no one arguing that ukrainian nationality is uniqe and independant, its just no other nations are so close then russian and ukraianian, ethnically and culturally, and there are no reason whatsoever to remember mistakes of the past only to say that ukraina could not be in the same country with Russia, and if it was that way it was occupation and repression and desinfranchising of poor ukrainian minorities and so on etc... its just was not this way. Ukrainans and Russians are brother nationalities in all meanings of it, and if some stupid rulers repressed Ukrainians they do it for their same stupidest reasons, as well they oftenly do the same with russians also btw... just nevermind o

and if alex3 really opressed ukrainian language, it have to be adressed his only times for doing so, and proper event so, and nohow it makes ukrainains as some minority nationalities inside russian empire, they were concripted in same ways, have the same rights and duties as russians

and to fnish with off-top: all this super-duper uniqness of ukrainian language, if thats the matter, is also a rather dirt double standart Few people are shaming anglosaxons for spreading their language in wels scotland and ireland, its just noticably more comfort usefull and just wide-spread then archaic celtic and scottish ones... i'm not trying to say that ukrainian language is not usefull, but if to be honest its usefullness right now lift on so high level by anti-russian nationalization, that this is just became like some parody there. Textbooks in schools and anti-russian propaganda on its very peak, just like a copy ofthose 19th century times

Excellent! Best of luck in fixing the AI's brains

Also, can we PLEASE not go down the "Russian VS Ukrainian" path all over again? I am an ethnic Ukrainian who considers himself Russian and I deem these debates quite stupid. So, let's all just make love. With condoms. Because they keep the babies away.

if my french was not that awefull, you can see that i am in no way "anti-ukrainan", i was talking just about the thing that this "Russian VS Ukrainian" topic is already awfully rotten foreign product, from which already sick all of us and which is delivered by those who really wants some enmity between our people. I'm myself in 25% ukrainian, and did live every summer of my childhood near Nikolaev

 

[Tempelridderen]

It's easy with Krakow to exchange one province for 2 with Russia. Forming Poland is quite easy et even grab austrian provinces with support of Russia. Your problem is to beat Prussia.

Yea I formed Poland after trading Kielce, Radom and Warszawa with my techs. But then Russia attacked me. Had to use Neville to get away o

 

[Tempelridderen]

if my french was not that awefull, you can see that i am in no way "anti-ukrainan", i was talking just about the thing that this "Russian VS Ukrainian" topic is already awfully rotten foreign product, from which already sick all of us and which is delivered by those who really wants some enmity between our people. I'm myself in 25% ukrainian, and did live every summer of my childhood near Nikolaev

How nice. And I am going to Ukraine for the summer to learn Russian! How about that.. (Odessa) :rofl:

 

[OndGud]

Yea I formed Poland after trading Kielce, Radom and Warszawa with my techs. But then Russia attacked me. Had to use Neville to get away o

No more Neville allowed, remember you have the center of the world listed as your location

Pardon the OT but it's not every day I see a fellow "LarViking"

 

[crash63]

Yea I formed Poland after trading Kielce, Radom and Warszawa with my techs. But then Russia attacked me. Had to use Neville to get away o

Russia never attacks with relations at +200. And it's necessary for Krakow to trade provinces.